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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:29 AM
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How does a physician or anyone in the helping professions
in good conscious belong to the Republican party? How can you reconcile your ethic and life's work with the utter corruption and amorality of the Republican party?
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:31 AM
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1. That's a very good question.
You have to keep in mind though - not all doctors are good doctors. Some of them are in it for the money and don't really see their patients as people or really care about them.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:32 AM
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2. Well how does a Doctor
Or someone who's ethics require him to help people, charge people for his services?

Bryant
Check it out -> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:34 AM
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7. Not all do
my doctor will help someone if they are in dire need, and worry about payment later. But I do think that doctors, like any workers, are entitled to compensation for services they render.
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:49 AM
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13. So doctors, nurses, teachers & social workers should go unpaid?
One of my best friends is a social worker, married to a teacher. I'll bounce that idea off them, the next time I see them, then report back on how long they laughed.

:eyes:
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:22 AM
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15. Well that's my point
I guess I should have put the sarcasm under it; but if you are going to postulate that a doctor has to vote against republicans because of their oaths to help people than it's a short step to postulate that they should help people for free.

That said a social worker might be in a different position; Republicans arent' actively hostile to Doctors; but they are pretty hostile to Social Workers.

Bryant
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:30 AM
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16. Oops -- sorry. I posted at the wrong level. Doh!
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:32 AM
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3. I've often thought the same.
My wife and I some very nice, intelligent people, friends even, who are Republicans. We just can't understand it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:32 AM
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4. There are many people who don't follow
politics at all, and I'd wager there are doctors that fall into this category. Ignorance can be bliss.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:33 AM
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5. Most Republicans I know....
no, ALL Republicans I know did NOT vote for the Shrub in 2004, and the ones I've known for 5 years or more didn't vote for him the first time. They believe in the conservative ideals of limited government, fiscal conservatism, and no foreign adventures, and they could smell a rat. Though they still call themselves Republican, they say the party has left them. I figure if a decent candidate comes up for, say, the Libertarian or Constitution party, they'll switch if the GOP doesn't mend its ways.
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pitohui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:34 AM
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6. it's abt the money
many professionals are brainwashed to believe republicans are in favor of lower taxes, they are living in the 1960s, real wages for physicians have declined in the reagan/bush era but they somehow fail to do the math, busy ppl often don't have time to ferret out facts in other fields, they leave it to an accountant
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:35 AM
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8. Physicians? Helping Professions? Are These Related?
From what I can see, there are two types of Republicans: the rich, who want to use Republican "values" to get richer, and the dumb, who somehow believe that Republican "values" are helpful.

Physicians are primarily about money, most are wealthy, and most are always looking for an extra buck. A little tax cut goes a long way towards making that crowd happy.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:36 AM
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9. I think just being a Republican
doesn't necessarily mean one supports THIS particular administration. I know a number of Republicans who just can't commit to the Donks but are disgusted with where the extreme right has led their party.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:39 AM
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10. Unfortunately, there are all too many physicans who go into that
profession because it is lucrative, not from any innate desire to help. If helping was the primary goal there would be far fewer Beverly Hills plastic surgeons and far more inner city free clinics.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:41 AM
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11. They subscribe to a
pseudo-morality.

You know, the one where women are subservient submissive creatures.

Where "minorities" just aren't as smart or important as the dominant race (God's chosen, doncha know?)

Where an embryo (or egg/sperm separately) are considered SACRED - but murdering adults and CHILDREN in WAR is hunkey dory.

Ditto for those on Death row.

Where raping the world ecologically is OK - 'cause God can heal it was a wave of "his" hand.

Where they can espouse "Christian values" and live to the exact opposite standards that he they call Christ espoused.

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catabryna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:55 AM
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14. Just wanted to throw this out there...
and don't ask me how we got this lucky because I have no clue. My son has a birth defect and every doctor that has treated him over the last 3 1/2 years were, without exception, democrats. One is a pro-life democrat, but a democrat nonetheless.

The big switch of doctors from democrat to republican began when the insurance companies started the tort reform campaign. Unfortunately, many of them didn't, and still don't, realize that their malpractice premiums were being upped because of poor investments in the stock market and not medical malpractice.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:46 AM
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12. Hmm....I was a medic in the repuke party...
Had no problems with it at all up until that rancid contract with america. This was years ago before war-mongering assholes hijacked the country.

Most physicians and others caring for patients in the medical field do it because that's the kind of people they are. I've known plenty and I can tell you from first hand experience they care more about the patient and helping people than money or political parties. We were dedicated to the point of politics being at the bottom rung of a ladder.

I've only met one doctor who was a complete asshole, a fundie and hypocritical. He's the one who said health care was a privilige and not a right. The discussion didn't end pretty on that one :evilgrin:
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Geoff R. Casavant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 04:09 PM
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17. Specialize in diseases of the rich.
N/t
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 04:42 PM
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18. Money. Tax Bracket. Simple.
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