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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:18 AM
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The 2% approval by African Americans + the make-up of the Grand Jury =
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 11:19 AM by Lex
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UH OH for the Bush Administration.

Didn't I read that the Grand Jury was comprised of several African Americans? A majority?

I know they have to do their jobs on the Grand Jury according to the law, and I know they will, but I was just chuckling about all those times Chimpy refused to meet with African American groups and shrugged off his responsibilites towards many of the victims of Katrina, etc.

Things like that end up biting you in the ass in the most unexpected ways.

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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:20 AM
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1. Grand Juries generally reflect the makeup of the community from which they
are drawn.

Look at the general background of folks who live in washington D.C. for your answer.
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:21 AM
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2. I did not know this. Hmm, do you know how many sit on a GJ?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:23 AM
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4. I think it depends on the community and if it's local, state or federal.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 11:25 AM by CottonBear
I was on a county grand jury for a 3 month term. I think that there were a 24 of us.

edit: There was a great diversity of jurors which reflects my blue, university town community in NE GA.
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:27 AM
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6. Would that be
UGA in Athens, by chance?

:hi:
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:32 AM
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8. Hello from Athens, GA! Are you a fellow Dawg?
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 11:32 AM by CottonBear
I love your avatar! I'm a proud graduate of the University of Georgia. I love living here. How 'bout them Dawgs? :hi:
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Jawja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:40 PM
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12. Howdy, CottonBear!
I, too, am a proud graduate of UGA.

HOW 'BOUT THEM DAWGS??!! :toast:

(got to get by Arkansas, though)

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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:23 AM
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3. You insult a grand juror to assume they would let race or politics...
Distract them from their duty. What Fitzgerald is pursuing isn't about party or race. It concerns whether laws were broken. It's a serious business, to which duty the grand jurors have sworn allegiance.

:hippy:
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:37 AM
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10. Oh get off your high horse . . .
I said, in my post, "I know they have to do their jobs on the Grand Jury according to the law, and I know they will"

It's just that GWB has crapped on African Americans his whole term so I think it's poetic justice if African Americans happen to comprise a majority of the Grand Jury.

Quit trying to make my post into something about insulting the Grand Jurors. Sheesh.

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:26 AM
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5. Matt Coopers article re testifying mentioned this:
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 11:26 AM by Pirate Smile
"Grand juries are in the business of handing out indictments, and their docility is infamous. A grand jury, the old maxim goes, will indict a ham sandwich if a prosecutor asks it of them. But I didn't get that sense from this group of grand jurors. They somewhat reflected the demographics of the District of Columbia. The majority were African American and were disproportionately women. Most sat in black vinyl chairs with little desks in rows that were slightly elevated, as if it were a shabby classroom at a rundown college. A kindly African-American forewoman swore me in, and when I had to leave the room to consult with my attorneys, I asked her permission to be excused, not the prosecutor's, as is the custom. These grand jurors did not seem the types to passively indict a ham sandwich. I would say one-third of my 2 1/2 hours of testimony was spent answering their questions, not the prosecutor's, although he posed them on their behalf. I began to take notes but then was told I had to stop, so I'm reliant on memory."

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/071705X.shtml
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Jack from Charlotte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:27 AM
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7. Let me say this about that.....
The juries in the likely Treasongate trials ARE most likely to made up of African-Americans. African-Americans are overwhelming .... non Repug. However, studies show that African-Americans are much more likely to vote not guilty for defendants of any race, than are Caucasian juries.

Regardless, the repugs are going to scream..... "racial bias" since their boys well be the minority in the court room.

Does the term..... the show is on the other foot mean anything to them?
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:35 AM
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9. what is showing on the other foot?
a sock, perhaps?:hi:
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:53 AM
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11. There is the opposite of love among African-Americans for Bush
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 11:54 AM by kurth
Bush has been very hostile to the African-American community in general. His friendship is extended only to a select group: His political cronies and certain fundamentalist preachers.

It is not hard to visualize the depth of mutual affection between his government and the average working African-American, who still remembers the TV commercial Daddy Bush ran against Dukakis.

I didn't even mention Katrina.
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