"IF"... and this is a BIG "IF"...

[tk2kewl]

If, as the rumor mill has it, Cheney resigns and McCain is appointed VP, who will we need to nominate in '08?

I say Clark will be the only one who can cut it, and not because I think McCain is any great shakes, but because a lot of Americans who don't pay enough attention do.

Who is your man/woman to take on McCain coming off a Vice Presidency or maybe even a Presidency should shrubbo resign or be impeached?






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[mattclearing]

1. I agree, Clark. n/t

[AlCzervik]

2. i really, really don't think it would ever be McCain.

i also don't think Crash cart is going to resign ever.

[tk2kewl]

4. Your're not playing...

:(

Party pooper.

[bryant69]

25. I agree

I mean in that case Clark is a good choice - but the only thing Bush values in other people is loyalty to himself. And McCain hasn't been very loyal over the years (for one thing, he ran against him). So I think if Cheny goes it will be Rice.

But Clark is a good choice in that event.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

3. Clark is the one who comes to mind

He's outside of Congress, which I think is a plus, and yet has international credentials. His military experience will work well against McCain.

[okieinpain]

32. I like clark, but I think you guy's forget the smear campaign that

was started up against him in 04. it was trotted out, then put to bed once kerry became the nominee, and if clark gets the nod in 08, it will be trotted out again only in full force this time.

I'm not saying he's a bad choice, I saw his wife on cspan, and I was really impressed with her. I'm just saying he is not going to come out smelling like a rose either.

[ewagner]

36. True...BUT....

Clark was a political neophyte in '04. He learns very quickly and I think he will be anticipating the attack and will have a well-reasoned, coordinated COUNTER-ATTACK ready this time.

[peace frog]

5. Al Gore

After all, he won in 2000, and Kerry in 2004, but there's that little matter of Diebold and stolen elections...

[tk2kewl]

Al would be my first choice if he weren't facing and incumbent McCain

I'd like a Gore/Clark ticket, but if McCain ends up in the WH as VP or president before '08, I think I might need Clark on the top of the ticket.

[indie_voter]

19. I would love to see a Gore/Clark ticket.

[Deep13]

26. How 'bout a Clark/Gore ticket?

:shrug:

[yodermon]

29. are there term limits on VP?? n/t

[Deep13]

30. Nope, just the POTUS.

[tk2kewl]

31. I don't think Al would be interested in another stint as second fiddle

[indie_voter]

34. Gore wouldn't do the VP thing again

I would love to see him president because not only would he do a great job,he was robbed in 2000.

Also, I am a sucker for the good guy winning at the end. Even though that rarely happens IRL.

However, Clark was my choice in 2004. I think he is a brilliant and thoughtful man.

I voted for him in the CA primary even though it was clear Kerry was the nominee. I have nothing against Kerry, but I was deeply disappointed Clark wasn't the nominee.

MHO, Gore/Clark together would be a gift to this nation.

I would love to see 16 years of leadership under these two men.

[underpants]

6. Funny how we assume that we will be at a disadvantage from this

nothing against you--it just struck me. We seem to assume that having a sitting VP resign (BIG if) amid treasonous charges will some how be spun to THEIR advantage and that we will have to scratch and claw our way out of a hole.

I'm just throwing it out there.

[tavalon]

35. Well, think about it

If Cheney doesn't go down, he's got no chance at the real title (even though will have been doing the job for 8 years unofficially). But if a more likeable person such as McCain were VP then they would have a more viable candidate.

[BOSSHOG]

7. Since we are hypothosizing; after McCain pardons bush his

political career will be over ala Gerald Ford.

[tk2kewl]

10. Good point.

[youngred]

8. I severly doubt it would be McCain

he is not happy with Bush's running of the war, and hates the idea of being VP (and if you were him would you really want to subvert yourself to W?). Cheney may or may not resign (I doubt it, Libby is going to be the loyal soldier and fall on his sword).

[AlCzervik]

9. ok, Clark might be a good pick. I like Gore myself and i still like

Edwards.

[tk2kewl]

12. Given a more mundane scenario for '08 I'd like to see Gore/Clark

[AlCzervik]

13. i like that ticket.

[peace frog]

33. I like it, too

[Deep13]

11. McCain will not want to tie that anchor to his feet.

If Dumbass is sinking, McCain will not want to become damaged goods by getting onto the same ship.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

14. Gore/Clark could beat McCain/anybody

[VolcanoJen]

15. No way in hell will they annoint John McCain.

If anything, they'll give it to Goober... Sen. George Allen of VA.

This is a loyal bunch. Have we learned nothing?

[AlCzervik]

17. agreed, the gop hates him.

[underpants]

18. Yep it will be Allen

he is the front runner for the nomination anyway....trust me I can smell this one coming.

[tk2kewl]

20. Just throwing it out there based on this...

http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/05/10/ana05032.html

rumor

[VolcanoJen]

23. I certainly didn't mean it as an attack on your premise about Clark.

I'm with you on that!!

However, I think the Buzzflash email is absolute bunk. Worse than that, it's lazy-ass bunk.

Why is it that when Democrats think about scary Republicans, the first name they reach for is always, always John McCain? It represents a fundemental "misunderestimation" of what this Administration is all about, imo.

If nothing else, the Miers nomination showed us what they have up their sleeve... and it's always the crony down the hall.

If Cheney has to resign, George "Goober" Allen will be Bush's choice for veep.

[tk2kewl]

24. The buzzflash story does seem to be BS, but I figured I'd have some fun

with it.

I find McCain scary because he still seems to have the respect of the average voter, even the average democratic voter. Before I started paying closer attention I used to think this way myself.

And given the likelihood (certainty?) that we will still be in Iraq in '08, there will be a lot of people who are looking for a tough military guy to save the day.

[napi21]

16. It's still too soon to say.

I'm currently leaning toward Gov. Warner of Va.

I still can't shake the fact that there's not been a President directly elected from the Senate since Kennedy, and there's a reason for that.

It doesn't matter if they're a Pub or a Dem. The public doesn't really understand the way the Senate works, and a Senator has WAY too many votes that can be misconstrued during a campaign.

I'm looking for a De, Governor who most people would like, and so far Warner is the only one I've seen who fits the bill.

[WilliamPitt]

21. "Should" is a tough word

when it comes to nominating a candidate. The field will be wide and there will be a dozen factors to consider.

Which nominee stacks up against the crowd of yahoos the GOP will put up?

Which nominee will raise the most money?

Which nominee has the most competent staff?

What will be the overall Democratic game plan? Will they spend money trying to wedge into the South and West, or will they use the money to take the 2000 Gore states and concentrate on two opr three swing states? The best candndiate will be determined by the decisions made on this.

In other words, it's early.

[TahitiNut]

22. As long as there's "only one who can cut it" ...

... then NOTHING will help and the long slide into complete fascism is unstoppable. Unless this nation wakes up to the almost total corruption on the right, we're never going to return to being anything resembling a democratic society.

[VolcanoJen]

27. Hear, hear.

:toast:

[Tommy_J]

28. Go Clark

[No Exit]

37. No way would Junior replace Cheney with McCain

McCain isn't a BFEE insider. Junior knows who's in the family empire (as a soldier, assassin, fellow investor, etc.) and he would only choose among them.

[Independent_Liberal]

38. Clark vs. McCain would be a good race in '08.