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kurtyboy Donating Member (968 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:22 PM
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what ever happened to those photos from Abu Ghraib?
Weren't they supposed to get released a month ago?
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iconoclastNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:23 PM
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1. They'll be released when the indictments drop.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 03:23 PM by iconoclastNYC
How much you want to bet?
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:24 PM
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2. The same thing that always happen to things that threaten the Bush junta
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 03:25 PM by deutsey
They just mysteriously go away.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:36 PM
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4. I think a judge said they would have to come out. But-----
my guess it is being held up in a court action once more. No way does Bush want them out now.What is with these burning bodies? Do they have a pictures of that also?
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:44 PM
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6. I saw photos of that on DU today
I think on Democracy Now this a.m. Amy Goodman reported that US troops did burn the bodies and psyops on Afghan TV taunted the Taliban as the film of the burning bodies was broadcast.

Yes...I just checked...here's the synopsis:

Report: U.S. Soldiers Burnt Bodies of Captured Taliban Fighters
This news on Afghanistan - an Australian TV program has aired footage of U.S. soldiers burning the bodies of two dead Taliban fighters. The program also aired footage of a U.S. Army psy-ops unit caught on tape broadcasting news of the burning to local residents. The message read : "You allowed your fighters to be laid down facing west and burnt. You are too scared to retrieve their bodies. This just proves you are the lady boys we always believed you to be... You attack and run away like women. You call yourself Taliban but you are a disgrace to the Muslim religion, and you bring shame upon your family. Come and fight like men instead of the cowardly dogs you are." On Wednesday the Pentagon announced it would investigate the incident.


http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/20/1410254
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:34 PM
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3. The gov't was given 20 days in which to appeal. I've assumed they will-
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 03:34 PM by impeachdubya
however, by my math, today is day 20. No word yet as far as I know.

This story is NOT going away, as much as they wish it would.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:40 PM
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5. If any were used in England's trial, a new 'executive order' (last Friday)
may have rendered them NEVER releasable...

There are new changes to the Manual for Courts Martial that make "sealed" information impossible to view unless you are an approved viewer...not even by FOIA can you view it. If an appeal fails the sealed information is never to be seen again. Another poster called it "a legal black hole" and used the example of Lyndie England as a case when viewed in light of this change we would never see the photos of the abuse. The information would not have to be "classified" or labeled "National Security" anymore either if it is entered into evidence and sealed it's gone.

(More martial law in the Bush/PNAC military industrial complex.)

snip...
Rule 1103A. Sealed exhibits and proceedings.

(a) In general. If the record of trial contains exhibits, proceedings, or other matter ordered sealed by the military judge, the trial counsel shall cause such materials to be sealed so as to prevent indiscriminate viewing or disclosure. Trial counsel shall ensure that such materials are properly marked, including an annotation that the material was sealed by order of the military judge, and inserted at the appropriate place in the original record of trial. Copies of the record shall contain appropriate annotations that matters were sealed by order of the military judge and have been inserted in the original record of trial. This Rule shall be implemented in a manner consistent with Executive Order 12958, as amended, concerning classified national security information.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/20051014-1.html
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hiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 03:53 PM
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7. Well it depends on how
you interperet the government or should I say Bush's Executive Order.
They are still fighting the release through the system and he also issued this new order..

Executive Order: 2005 Amendments to the Manual for Courts Martial, United States




By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including chapter 47 of title 10, United States Code (Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. 801-946), and in order to prescribe amendments to the Manual for Courts-Martial, United States, prescribed by Executive Order 12473, as amended, it is hereby ordered as follows:

Section 1. Part II of the Manual for Courts-Martial, United States, is amended as follows:

(a) R.C.M. 103(2) is amended by replacing the word "without" with the word "with" and by replacing the word "noncapital" with the word "capital".

(b) R.C.M. 201(e)(2)(B) is amended by adding the word "general" between the words "convene" and "courts-martial" and by inserting the following words after "armed forces":

"assigned or attached to a combatant command or joint command".

(c) R.C.M. 201(e)(2)(C) is amended by inserting the words "assigned or attached to a joint command or joint task force," immediately before the words "under regulations which the superior command may prescribe".

(d) R.C.M. 201(e)(3) is amended by inserting the following immediately after the words "armed force":

", using the implementing regulations and procedures prescribed by the Secretary concerned of the military service of the accused,".

(e) R.C.M. 201(e)(4) is amended by adding the words ", member, or counsel" after the words "military judge".

(f) R.C.M. 201(f)(1)(A)(iii)(b) is amended to read as follows:

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http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/10/20051014-1.html
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