Blacks "who curse America are cursing God" because God created slavery to

[helderheid]

Project 21's Massie on Parshall radio show: Blacks "who curse America are cursing God" because God created slavery to bring them here

http://mediamatters.org/items/200510200003

On the October 18 edition of the syndicated radio show Janet Parshall's America, Project 21 national advisory council member and columnist for conservative website WorldNetDaily.com Mychal Massie declared to host Janet Parshall that African-American churches today "have succumbed to hatred" and "disobedience to God." Massie went on to proclaim that "the black people today that curse America are cursing God because if God had not permitted the Ashanti and Dahomey tribes of ancient Africa to trap other Africans and sell them to Muslims, who sold them to Europeans, we would not have what we have today." Parshall praised Massie for his "straight talk" -- the name of a program Massie hosts on the conservative website Rightalk.com -- and called him "brother."

Project 21, which bills itself as a "National Leadership Network of Black Conservatives," is a creation of the conservative think tank National Center for Public Policy Research (NCPPR). NCPPR's executive director, David Almasi, oversees Project 21's daily operations. Almasi, who previously worked for the Reed Irvine-created right-wing group Accuracy in Academia, employs spokesmen from a "variety of careers" throughout the country to promote Project 21's agenda through the media, academia, government, and business communities. Roll Call reported on October 19 that Jack Abramoff, a former NCPPR board member, used the organization to funnel $25,000 he received in lobbying fees from an Internet gaming company "to pay for foreign trips for Members of Congress and staff." Roll Call noted, as did The Washington Post, that this money was used to help fund a May 2000 golfing trip to St. Andrews, Scotland, that included former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX).

From the October 18 broadcast of Salem Radio Network's Janet Parshall's America:

MASSIE: There's a reason that the black family is in the state of destruction that it is today. At the close of the civil rights era -- and I submit that the civil rights battle has been won. It is over. Black people can do anything they want to do. There is no restrictions, apart from those that are self-imposed.

PARSHALL: Mm-hmm.

MASSIE: At the close of Jim Crow, at that closing of that civil rights era, of those battles, the black family -- 87 percent of black households were two-parent married families. Eighty-seven percent. Forty percent of the black households were business owners. Forty percent.

PARSHALL: Wow.

MASSIE: And, in 40 years, we have 90 percent black-on-black crime. Seventy -- a high 70 percent, near 80 percent, black illegitimacy. We have, in 40 short years, 10,000-plus children born in Philadelphia in 2001, 9,700 and change black abortions. We have three out of every five black pregnancies ending in abortion. Now, how did we go from a period of Duke Ellington to a period of Tupac Shakur?

PARSHALL: Mmm.

MASSIE: How did we go from Nat King Cole to a 50 Cent, or Mystikal, or a Snoop Dogg? How did we go from dignity and honor and an impetus -- an importance placed on education to a thuggery? Rap and what we see today, you can't even call that gangster rap.

PARSHALL: Mmm.

MASSIE: Because the gangsters -- and I'm not going to ask you to date yourself, but I'll date myself -- I remember the gangsters being those that were meticulously dressed, that wore the finest of shoes and set the fashion trends. These things today are street trash --

PARSHALL: Mmm.

MASSIE: -- that have drug the family down, and the church, and Janet, I will go on record and I will not win any popularity awards, but it is the fault of the black church and the black community because the preachers have succumbed to hatred; they have succumbed to a disobedience to God. There is a parallel that I think needs to be pointed out. Had Joseph not been kidnapped and sold into slavery, he would not have been in a position to help his family in their time of need.

PARSHALL: Hmmm. Wow.

MASSIE: The black people today who curse America are cursing God because if God had not permitted the Ashanti and Dahomey tribes of ancient Africa to trap other Africans and sell them to the Muslims, who sold them to the Europeans, we would not have what we have today.

PARSHALL: Mychal, thank you very much. There is a reason why you host a program called Straight Talk, because you just gave it to us. God bless you, brother, appreciate you very much. We'll take a break, folks, and come right back.

Contact:
Mychal Massie E-mail: [e-mail]
Contact:
Janet Parshall's America

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[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Un. Frickin. Real.

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[ayeshahaqqiqa]

10. Just out of curiosity

what percentage of crime is shite on white? Hispanic on Hispanic? Asian on Asian?

[xmas74]

42. It is believed that nearly 70% of all murders committed fall

into the category of a "crime of passion". You can figure that most of those would be in the race on same race crime.
Most home thefts are committed by family members.
By population percentages, blacks commit more "reported" crimes than whites and Asians. (And I absolutely meant to stress the word reported, since most families will not report a crime committed by a family member unless it is absolutely necessary.) But the majority of crimes committed in America, reported and unreported, are committed by white Americans.

[BronxBoy]

50. And drug abuse

in a lot of White households is a "mental health issue", "a private family matter"

In the Black community it's a ticket to upstate

[xmas74]

52. Bingo!

I didn't even bring that up but you are absolutely correct.
A white family can, in some cases, go before the judge and explain that their (insert loved one here) has a subtance abuse problem and they plan to send them to a facility. In some cases, the judge will give them the benefit of the doubt.
Many black families do not have the money to send their loved ones to rehab. They get a nice one way trip to a state prison.

[alcibiades_mystery]

14. What a surprise!

People who live in poverty in the same neighborhoods commit crimes against each other!

Holy shit! Who would have thought that could happen!

I mean, are you fucking kidding me?

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[BronxBoy]

34. Bullshit...

a simple thing like enforcing the drug laws equally would knock that statistic on it's ass. You can find just as much dope on Wall Street as in Harlem. But Giulani wasn't running sweeps through Morgan Stanley

[Igel]

54. That's what the numbers look like for violent crime:

murder, assault, rape. Excluding drug-related crimes (except murders that are drug related).

Next.

[BronxBoy]

82. Thanks STAT BOY.......

The post that I was responding to has been deleted but I'm pretty sure he didn't say that Blacks commit 30% of all violent crimes. I could have sworn it was 30% of ALL crimes.

People like you crack me the fuck up. Can pull stats out of your ass like a magician pulls a rabbit out of a hat. Tell me this STAT BOY, why hasn't Kenny Lay been charged and tried with any crime? Enron ripped off entire states but your stats don't seem to indicate any of that. Do me a favor, STAT BOY, go find some stats on how many convicted and pardoned felons now work for the Government. How many Catholic priests just get re-assigned instead of charged with a crime when they molest young boys? Got some stats on that.

Yeah we have pathologies in the Black community but so does everyone else. But don't get the shit twisted, if crimes were counted evenly and this justice system were color-blind, those stats you cite so easily would look a whole lot differently

[Tigress DEM]

69. Giuliani can't smell Bushit even when he's standing in a pile of it..

up to his arse.

I want these high level criminals - the guys who knew to sell of their United Airline stock before 9/11, Haliburton etc... to be investigated and have their assets seized and put in the treasury.

[alcibiades_mystery]

35. There's a big non-sequitor

The statistic that you cited does not prove that the reasons arenm't socio-economic, since you'd have to find the statistic for other groups in similar situations of poverty, not the total population.

I'm curious, in any case, what you think the other reasons may be, if they're not socio-economic. Surely, you're not implying the old racist canard that blacks are genetically more prone to crime and violence?

[Name removed]

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[AirAmFan]

55. Remember NWA's hit, "F*** the Police!"? All these years later, people STILL

don't understand it. After all these years, there's NO EXCUSE for not understanding the deep racial injustice of our "justice" system. If your chance of being in jail at a moment in time were TEN TIMES the rate for whites, if your lifetime chance of spending time in prison were over fifty percent, and if racist cops were hassling you almost every day, even inside your school, you would be singing, "F*** the Police!" too!

[Tomee450]

59. That is sheer nonsense.

Whites commit more crimes than black people but it is the blacks that the media focuses on. I quoted Tim Wise above. He aslo writes the following:

"The media overyhpes crime news generally, coverage has exploded in recent years even as crime has been plummeting--and especially crimes in cities committed by people of color. Despite the occasional focus on white school shooters or white guys who kill their families because their stock crashes, studies confirm that not only does crime take up huge amount of overall news, but crimes with black perps and/or white victims are the most hyped of all. Think Central Park Jogger, for example. In general,media has a tendency to inflate public fears of black people."

He goes on to cite an example in which Good Morning America thought it important to show a scene in Milwaukee in which three black women were hitting a car with a baseball bat. Wise wondered why it was necessary to report this incident since the car did not belong to a prominent local or national figure and thus was not that newsworthy. It was just another way to instill fear of African Americans. Wise reports that " three days after the above incident was shown on national television, "white college students at the University of Cincinnati celebrated Cinco de Mayo by taking to the streets, overturning cars, throwing sofas out of windows and setting them on fire. Yet, there was no footage of the mini-riot on GMA the next day, despite the fact that such an event surely must have provided some exciting video."

African Americans do not commit more crimes than whites. Their offenses, however, are widely reported unlike those committed by whites people.

[alcibiades_mystery]

62. Perhaps you don't understand the meaning of

socio-economic?

Bizarre response.

[Igel]

56. The work was done in the early/mid 90s.

One corollary was the research Bennett referred to in his extrapolation about abortions.

The researchers found similar groups, in fact. It wasn't entirely socio-economic, if I'm understanding the unnumbered poster's definition properly.

Mix in a fairly closed community, high school drop out rates, high unemployment rates, single-parent families (usually out-of-wedlock births), and the poverty that results from the previous factors, and you get similar rates regardless of race.

The researchers called it 'dense' poverty. And it was hard to find exactly similar groups; dense poverty is disproportionately concentrated in the AA community. Moreover, it's persistent: it's passed from parent to kid, and disrupting its transmission requires changing pretty much everything at once--not just income, not just education, not just providing a father and mother, and not just moving the people out of the neighborhood. And still there's no guarantee of the kid breaking the cycle.

[AirAmFan]

48. Who knows who COMMITS crimes? African-Americans are ARRESTED and

INDICTED and CONVICTED and SENTENCED disproportionately, because of--

--disproportionate lack of adequate legal representation stemming from triple poverty rates and less than a tenth of average household wealth for whites;

--disproprortionately urban location, where acts occurring within X feet of a park, school, or church carry extra criminal charges and extra penalties;

--police profiling, especially on highways and for drug use, documented at http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/usa/Rcedrg00-05.htm ;

--disproportionate loss of privacy and civil rights as ex-felons (police can hassle and search ex-cons at will without warrants, compounding the racial effects of racial injustices over time);

and many other racial injustices, most legislated deliberately over hundreds of years.

[Tigress DEM]

70. And the TYPES of crimes that get attention....

I'm inwardly happy that the top level officials who are ripping off the country getting indicted. They have been trashing EVERYONE's civil rights by (among other things) allowing laws to be passed that strip our protections in the Bill of Rights.

Now even if you can get legal representation, the laws that protect a person are disappearing for people. Only the corporations have any rights anymore.

[Tomee450]

53. What statistics?

I was just reading an article by author and teacher, Tim Wise over at ZNET. Wise studies racial issues and has written several books on the matter. He writes:

"Ask the average American to describe the typical drug user or dealer and they'll say he's a black male, even though blacks make up only thirteen percent of drug users and sixteen percent of dealers. Most dealers and 76 percent of users are white, according to federal data.

Ask the average American to describe the typical violent criminal, and likewise they'll say he is a black male, although the Justice Department's annual Victimization Survey indicates that African Americans commit on 26 percent of all violent crimes in a given year. Non-Hispanic whites commit the majority of such offenses, and thus are the typical violent criminals."

The article is dated June l,2003. I don't think the crime rate for blacks has increased. According to recent reports, the murder rate has dropped substantially in the past years. It's just that the media focuses on black crime while ignoring crime committed by whites.

[Igel]

57. The stereotype is wrong.

People are lousy at intuiting statistics.

You're over 70% of the population, you wind up doing most of the crime. But whites don't do as much violent crime as their percentage of the population would predict, all things being equal.

Look at your own statistic. 12-13% of the population accounted for 26% of the violent crime. Any given black male is more likely to engage in a crime of violence than any given white male. So they're perceived as riskier, and that risk is more salient. Not all things are equal.

That inequality, perceived risk, shows up as the stereotype. It's an inaccurate stereotype, but would lead to more accurate risk assessment if the risk of a person committing a violent crime really were randomly distributed over the individual populations.

[Tomee450]

60. The stats reveal that blacks

do not commit more crime. You'd think from listening to the media, that the black male is more likely to commit criminal acts when such is not the case. Whites have far more to fear from each other than from blacks. And also, the cops are quicker to define an act by a black as violent, while giving the white a pass. Black people are far more likely to be arrested and convicted for a crime.

[Igel]

64. Fine, don't look at arrest statistics.

Look at complaints filed with the police for any category. Murder, assault, rape.

Or look at the stats for the description of the attacker.

There's a statistical imbalance in both sets of stats. It's pretty close to the imbalance for convictions: which is pretty much expected, since serious violent crime tends to get reported, and most is intra-community.

For the first, either African-Americans are more likely to turn to the police to settle accounts when murder, rape or assault are involved than any other race, or they commit a greater proportion of the crimes.

For the second, we conclude either African-Americans are greatly more likely to falsely describe their attackers as African-American than whites or Latinos are, or they commit a greater proportion of the crime.

Of course, there are gaps in the data, and, undoubtedly bias. But we can also note that the conviction, racial identification by victims, and racial identification of victims all are pretty much in lockstep. And there's the difficulty that the stats for whites and Latinos, when dense poverty is controlled for, also falls pretty much into line.

Other attributes correlate with higher crime rates better than race does. But those attributes aren't randomly spread throughout the US population.

Rather than deny secondary correlations, it's better to look at the primary ones. But that would entail a serious discussion, and it's much easier to have a knee-jerk response. Let's also deny the existence of any racial differences in unemployment, average educational level, poverty rates or single-parent families, or of segregated neighborhoods.

[Tomee450]

66. A serious discussion

would involve admitting the fact that if the police mainly look for crime among one people, that is where they will find it. Serious discussion would be admitting that blacks and whites can file complaints, but a white cop is much more likely not to arrest a white but give no such break to a black. A serious discussion would involve admitting the fact that blacks and whites who take the same drugs are treated differently. Many blacks are in prison on drug charges even though they are not the chief users or sellers of drugs. Serious discussion would include recognizing that in this society, cops will readily charge a black person for a minor offense while ignoring the same offense committed by a white person. For example, when have you ever seen a sixty-four year old white man being beaten by the cops. The gentleman in NOLA was not only beaten, he was charged for resisting arrest. There would never have been a resisting arrest charge for a white senior citizen because he would have been treated differently. If thought to be intoxicated, he would have been treated like an old drunk. I mentioned the federal stats that Wise quoted. When one considers crime statistics the fact that blacks are arrested, charged and convicted for crimes whites get away with should not be forgotten. If our system of justice was fair, the stats for blacks would be lower, and that for whites would be much higher.

[Tigress DEM]

71. Agree with what you said. 1 point of order. 64yr old in NOLA....

He was actually charged with being drunk, when he obviously wasn't. I heard his lawyer on Air America and it was mentioned the man hadn't had a drop to drink in 25years!

I forced myself to watch the tape although it chokes me up to see any nice old man being treated like that. He was trying to cooperate with them and they were acting like they wanted to rip off his leg! It was insane.

Some people can see the numbers, understand the equation and still come up with the predetermined answer without batting an eyelash.

I can't believe anyone who followed the FEMA blockaid on humanitarian aid to NOLA can still think there isn't discrimination in this country.

I'm embarrassed to be white.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

76. Could Both Of You Be Incorrect?

When you control for income and family structure there is no difference between incidents of crime....

[neuvocat]

28. Well unless there's proof

there's nothing to back that up. But if you want to start somewhere to look that up:

http://www.nationmaster.com/country/us/Crime

You could also do a search on the U.S. Census if you'd like to show us proof.

[Tomee450]

45. And a high percentage of crimes

against whites is by whites.

[K-W]

61. Compare this post to

the first post on the media matters comments section by the poster tommy.

Great minds think alike, eh?

[Sweeties Mama]

32. I "pity da fool"!!!

Wonder if he was wearing his minstrel attire while he spewed that bile. Self hatred is an amazing thing. Homey has been bamboozled!

[BronxBoy]

38. Big time!!!!!!

ANd I bet if we got ahold of his speaking schedule, the overwheling majority of his appearences would be to white conservative audiences

[newyawker99]

77. Hi Sweeties Mama!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[FreedomAngel82]

85. Whenever I think

I can't be more disgusted by these people they do something else. I've had the line to me that black people were treated fairly etc. in slavery. :eyes: Oh yes and I'm sure lynching was a picnic. If it wasn't for the blacks "disobedience" they probably wouldn't be voting etc. :mad: Ugh!

[KingFlorez]

2. This woman's dumber than I thought

She already showed how dumb she was plugging her ears on CSPAN, but now we know all she know how to do is go "Mmmm" and "Wow". That's a real intelligent commentator for you.

[alcibiades_mystery]

3. Is that Massie or Massah?

:eyes:

Massah say God done brought you here to hew wood an' bear watah. But massah gone git what's comin', sho nuf.

[GreenPartyVoter]

22. I had the same thought

[nini]

4. Those uppity colored folks!!

How dare they be pissed off at what they face on a daily basis!!


:sarcasm:


I am so sick of these insane people and their hate.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

5. By this logic,

Native Americans should be glad they suffered genocide at the hands of the Europeans because of "Manifest Destiny".

[Ladyhawk]

19. I just watched the four-DVD documentary, 500 Nations.

This country could never in a million years make it up to the native peoples. I'm thoroughly disgusted.

[Solly Mack]

7. so slavery was God's purpose for Africans, so they could come to America?

So God wanted Africans to be abused, tortured, murdered and enslaved - it was "God's plan" for them?

So really, the masters were just following the will of God?

Alrighty then.

I think my head just exploded.

[alcibiades_mystery]

11. It was also the will of God that the South be burned from Vicksburg

to Savannah, apparently.

Funny thing, that will of God.

:rofl:

[Solly Mack]

15. reckon how they do reconcile that?

if slavery was the will of god then the end of it was?


and what was Jim Crow? A test of the faithful?

My head is still throbbing...

[davidinalameda]

8. someone was chugging kool aid straight from the pitcher

no glass needed here

oh my gods!

I can't believe that anyone would say such a thing

[KingFlorez]

9. That's a convoluded and stupid argument

He can't be serious. And conservatives say we are crazy? I think not.

[AspenRose]

12. Oh. My. Gosh.

Has Randi or Mike seen this?!

WOW....I mean, just, WOW

This is as bad as what Bennett said and he should not be given a pass because he happens to be black. He's a pawn.

And it's a TWOFER! Slams Blacks AND Muslims at the same time!

"...if God had not permitted the Ashanti and Dahomey tribes of ancient Africa to trap other Africans and sell them to MUSLIMS, who sold them to Europeans, we would not have what we have today."

[KingFlorez]

18. Maybe he doesn't believe he's black

He obviously under the impression slavery was a good thing and actually helped blacks. Sounds like a white supremecist argument.

[AspenRose]

23. Makes you wonder if descendants of slaves in other areas of

Latin America and the Caribbean have the same point of view!

I bet not!

Only in this crazy, screwed up country.

[BronxBoy]

37. Actually it's worse.....

Because as Blacks you would expect them to know better

[AspenRose]

46. Oh he knows better, the money just causes him not to care.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

13. Now that's what I call SPIN!

You almost have to admire it.

Dear God.

[donheld]

16. It's really appaulling that people give these people access to

our airwaves. It's even worse people actually listen to them.

[BronxBoy]

40. Actually,

I kind of glad they have there airwaves. Just more Black Conservative Bullshit. And you know what, we should call on Condi,a real Black Conservative, to repudiate this man.

[applegrove]

17. The backs of African Americans - in the first three centuries of the

history of the country known as America - created the wealth & the credit situation that made American rich. So it could be independent. So it could create huge industry for all the white people.

Time for these me-ricans to take that into consideration. Instead of believing the myth about the "can do" attitude. Easy to "can do" when someone else is doing all your "doing". Easy to create small business if you were white - with so much credit available based ons wealth created by robing african americans of all their pay & choice & freedom.

[neuvocat]

20. What a frikin' loon bag.

[bluedawg12]

21. This is simply another radicalright wing think tank sponsored

line of BS.

If you go to this link you can look at the funders- the same neoconniver groups that fund about 50 or so RW think tanks.

http://www.sourcewatch.org/wiki.phtml?title=National_Center_for_Public_Policy_Research

Funders
Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation, Inc.
Carthage Foundation
Castle Rock Foundation
Earhart Foundation
John M. Olin Foundation, Inc.
Sarah Scaife Foundation
In 2002 ExxonMobil donated $30,000 for "educational activities" and a further $15,000 for general support

[xchrom]

24. soooo slavery was a good thing?

only in the mind of a piece of trash named massie.

or some like minded, slime riden, begotten spawn of a rabid gangrene infected republican rat.

[AirAmFan]

25. Pure "tomming"--who wants to hear, "bring back the Good Old Days"

of slavery, Jim Crow, and 80 percent poverty? Certainly not today's African-Americans. Massie's message is strictly for "Massa"--elderly white racists who listen to ultra-rightist radio. Massie is telling them what they want to hear, and his black skin is a thin shield for the white "hosts" who keep calling him back. I wonder how and how much he gets paid for his minstrelsy -- I mean ministry.

[libnnc]

26. so this was God's will then?

So this was God's will then?
http://www.arthistoryclub.com/art_history/upload/thumb/1/17/200px-Slavetreatment.jpe
Not any god I'd want to pray to.

[helderheid]

27. Here he is

http://mychalmassie.com/

[BronxBoy]

44. Thanks for the link...

Here's the funny thing.......

If he sponsored a march based on his priniciples, NO ONE WOULD SHOW UP!

:rofl:


I never even heard of this ahole until now

[Tomee450]

63. I've never heard of him either.

Wonder if he's on the right wing payroll.

[BronxBoy]

79. Mos Def...

Would be surprised if he wasn't

[longship]

29. Janet Parshall's America is a very scary country.

I do not want to live in such a place. If ever the USA gets that bad, remind me that there are other places.

[getmeouttahere]

36. There are other places...

filled with beautiful people who are peace-loving, that understand the true meaning of "community"

[MountainLaurel]

86. Like Canada n/t

[getmeouttahere]

87. Canada would be at or near the top of the list, for sure!

[Tigress DEM]

72. Janet Parshall is scary herself.

LaLaLaLa - I can't hear you. WTF?

[agincourt]

30. What a load of elephant turds,

Everything was better economically 40 years ago. You had strong families and family businesses because the ecomonic system allowed it. The political system was not trying to move us to feudalism like it is now.

[helderheid]

31. Randi is talking about this now

[AspenRose]

33. YES I knew I could count on Randi!

:applause:

(NOW can you forgive David Brock, Randi? Hmmm? :dilemma: )

[peacebird]

39. the "logic" in this is stunning....

literally stunning... so twisted and contorted - it makes my head hurt just trying to wrap my brain around those ideas ....

:wow:

[helderheid]

41. Awwww here he is with my senator

[USA_1]

43. Bible: Death Penalty For Slave "Trade"

He who steals a man and keeps him against his will, or sells him, shall be put to death.

Exodus 21:16


If a man be found stealing any of the Brethren, and makes merchandise of them, or sells them; then shall that thief shall be put to death; and you will put away evil from you.

Deuteronomy 24:7


Manstealing is also condemned as a sinful crime in I Timothy 1:10.



DEATH TO ALL ENSLAVERS!!!

[AspenRose]

51. AMAZING how people have the NERVE to spin God like that, to justify

evil. Slavery is evil. Period. If slavery was so wonderful, why is this country practically CURSED with the racism it still struggles with today?

This is nothing more than a poor attempt to stop the hemorraging of Bush's 2% black support. Most supporters are in the churches. So here come the black enforcers of the GOP agenda to "preach" to them: "You should be GRATEFUL your ancestors were brought over here in chains against their will, beaten, tortured, raped, with families separated!"

What a sick bastard.

[Joe Chi Minh]

47. As a matter of fact, even in Old Testament times,

God ordered the Jews through Moses never to enslave any of their own people, because it was an abomination in his eyes. Slavery is of course the most extreme and inhuman form of economic oppression, which latter, alone, the scriptures tells us is a crime that cries to Heaven for vengeance.

And, of course, even in the narrowest possible interpetation, that means for Americans, any of their fellow Americans.

Racism, alone, of all the crimes against humanity must, rank in God's eyes as among the most unforgivable, since it defies the most elementary common sense to blame people for looking the way God intended them to look. A clearer and more hateful form of blasphemy it is difficult to imagine.

[bobbieinok]

58. a few yrs ago black students at a conservative xn college told me

their ministers were preaching that slavery was punishment for African paganism

that slaves were 'preached the gospel' and had the chance to learn about Jesus, therefore slavery was a positive for blacks

it made me sick

[Hotep]

83. Massie can eat shit and die. he can take his punk ass god with him!

[RepublicanElephant]

65. Well...

...another sell-out house negro.

judas got 30 pieces of silver.

how much is this massie guy getting?

[Behind the Aegis]

67. Flabbergasted!

I don't know what is more shocking; what he said or the fact that he is African American?! His statements are almost identical to ones I have used in diversity training seminars. The difference? They were from right-wingers or places like the "Church of the Creator" or the Klan! Of the very few conservative AAs I know (most African-Americans I know are fairly liberal), I have NEVER heard one justify slavery and say it was good for the black community! This is just beyond twisted!

[Tsiyu]

68. "And God told people to beat those slaves

and then God told the masters to separate families of slaves, so they never learned how to be families, and then God told whites to prevent slaves, and later, Freed Blacks, from learning to read so they would remain ignorant (they couldn't even read THE BIBLE!!!!!!) and then God told those whites to lynch Black people if they pissed off the whites in any way, and then God told them to create separate water fountains, to pollute the areas where Blacks lived, to create public schools that were "separate, but equal" (meaning the Black students got next to nothing in educational expenditures while the white students had the best materials taxes could buy) and then God told the whites to incarcerate blacks at a much higher rate than whites ( they just "looked more guilty" to God) and to insure that there were more Black males incarcerated than in college so that Black people would remain in poverty to insure that all of the above remained in place."

What a fucknut.

[nadinbrzezinski]

73. mask is comming off

[TheModernTerrorist]

74. hehehe

WHAT!?!?!?!!??!?!

holy fucking hell




(pardon my french)

[emanymton]

75. Declare Victory And Walk Away. ...

shrub's solution to a deep rooted serious problem seems to have found a follower. Mychal Massie has decided to avoid seriously trying to find a solution to a real issue causing trouble in USA. He declares victory and walks away (blaming others for their failure to understand).

"... a reason that the black family is in the state of destruction that it is today. At the close of the civil rights era -- and I submit that the civil rights battle has been won. It is over. Black people can do anything they want to do. There is no restrictions, apart from those that are self-imposed."

This statement clearly shows the civil rights era has barely begun. The tensions in USA are great. Positive leadership is needed to help find a way to resolve so many issues.

This issue is not over. Trouble is brewing unless we do something to resolve peacefully the causes.


Bush Lied. People Died. Media Cheered.

[rasputin1952]

78. I thought I had heard it all...but I was sadly mistaken...

How can this individual sleep at night? I would suppose all of the meds he must take would help on that situation...:(

It is incredible that this person can even get out this kind of tripe; I guess it sells well with the RW Troglodyte thinking.

No human being has the right to own another, period. Regardless of the outcome in the extreme long run. It 'may' be argued that African Americans are perhaps better off today in the US that they would have been in say Uganda in the '70's...but even that is pushing the walls out.

This person benefited from a system where his ancestors were habitually beaten into submission for generations. He has reaped a reward for the immeasurable suffering of those before him...and he tosses nary a glance at the graves of those who have laid the course for his personal prosperity...those who had no food, no clothing nor shelter, paved a way for him to prosper, and he cares little about the suffering they experienced. He cares even less about those that have been shoved into squalor today...he is an evil man, w/o the barest of a soul.

Perhaps he should feel what it would be like to be a slave, he may then change his mind, just as those that were torn from their homelands yearned for the freedom and commonality of man, perhaps he should walk just a few feet with the unshod feet of those who precede him...he should ask the questions that they asked so long ago..."Why God, Why?"..."When will I be Free"?

[derby378]

80. Oreo cookie

Black on the outside, white on the inside. He's the Roy Kohn of the African-American community.

[geniph]

81. "Black people can do anything they want to do"?

Really? Even drive a BMW in a gated community after dark without being stopped by the rent-a-cops? Become President? That must be why we have so many African-Americans in Congress. :sarcasm:

[nemo137]

84. If the bastard had bothered to study history instead of sounding like the

drunk guy at the American Legion post, he'd know about a thing we call the "Nadir of Race Relations" from about 1890ish-1930ish, in which the Black middle class was essentially destroyed by court rulings, laws, and the creation of "sundown towns." I'm working my way through Loewen's book on the subject, and it's just sad, it's pure sad.