DU's mexicopat & many 100s of thousands others are in deep trouble (Wilma)

[EuroObserver]

Please don't forget them all just because it's not (yet) Florida or elsewhere in CONUS.

Please resist that US trend (we observe from the outside, aware of another probably on the order of 100,000 dead in what we used to call, I think, the Golden Triangle (ref: Kashmir/Pakistan)) towards extreme selfishness, to be generally unaware of what doesn't hit your TV screens, for whatever reasons, in the headlines... You are still the wealthiest and most powerful, one would also like to think among the most sympathetic, empathetic and reasonably well-educated people in the world... Praise and criticism be also due to Allah or whatever name you need to choose...

Ah, Jesus... See what's coming...

Jeff Masters: http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/show.html

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Wilma's impact on Mexico
Wilma's impact on Mexico is likely to be catastrophic. A 50-mile wide stretch of coast will receive Category 4 to 5 sustained winds of over 150 mph, causing incredible damage. As Wilma sits in place for two days, the long duration of high winds will cause far more damage than a quickly moving storm would. The long duration extreme winds will probably cause some of the worst wind damage ever seen in a hurricane. The storm surge will not be as much as a problem, because deep water just offshore will prevent a huge storm surge from piling up. Still, the expected storm surge of up to 11 feet will cause widespread damage to coastal structures.In adddition, rainfall amounts of 15 - 25 will cause serious flooding. Wilma is likely to be Mexico's worst weather disaster in history.




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[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. I'm really concerned

for all the people in the path of this hurricane. And realize that the season has another month to go-who knows if Alpha or Beta might be even worse!

[malaise]

2. Gilbert hit Mexico

as a Cat 5 in 1988. Still Wilma will be a disaster. Do you know if Mexicopat has a suggestion re where we should send help.
Stay safe Mexicopat and all others in the path of this devastating hurricane.

[EuroObserver]

10. mexicopat, she was going to abandon Isla Mujeres

and head for Cancun. Right in the path of this.

She's a retired lady.

follow recent DU links, start here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1860976#1861241

[mom cat]

45. Isla Mujeres is NO place to be in this. Merida would be better than Cancun

[murray hill farm]

20. I dont know yet..

but there is a mexican red cross...they collected clothing just last week..for the guatamalan victims of hurricane stan. A year ago, the collected clothing and money and food for the tsumami...so that is the best place to send help.

[Rowdyboy]

23. Unfortunately, the ferries did not run today so she couldn't leave....

More info in this thread from 1pm today

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5112359#5113851

[malaise]

26. I'll wait

I'm finished with the Red Cross

[Adelante]

34. Do you need a room?

I'm near Guadalajara if you want to come inland :hi:

[Adelante]

37. I just read below that you can't leave

I will hold you in my thoughts for safety. But if you do somehow get out, PM me for my spare room. Do not hesitate.

[EuroObserver]

38. She can't get off the island now, Wes. n/t

[Adelante]

40. Yeah, I read down thread

Damn.

[EuroObserver]

50. Mexican Red Cross here:

http://www.cruzrojamexicana.org/

You can donate directly into our bank account - Puede hacer su aportación directamente a nuestra cuenta bancaria:

Cruz Roja Mexicana I.A.P.
Bank - Bancomer No. 0147592957
Office (Branch) - Oficina 0032 DF Palmas
Interbank (international) account number Clabe (sic - debe ser "Clave" - should read "Clave") interbancaria: 012180001475929571

Contact us with any questions by telephone: [phone] and 10 84 45 68 - the administrative coordinator at the head office of the Mexican Red Cross - Cualquier duda puede comunicarse con nosotros al 01 (55) 10 84 45 67 y 10 84 45 68 a la Coordinación Administrativa de la Sede Nacional de Cruz Roja Mexicana.

[Catherine Vincent]

3. The people that are in the path I surely know how they must feel.

The stress is horrible! All I can say is leave ahead of time.

[zippy890]

4. CONUS?

?

[KamaAina]

5. CONUS = Continental United States

implying, I suppose, that Hawai'i and Alaska don't really count, either :eyes:

[EuroObserver]

7. Yeah, sorry, posted in a hurry: this is an emergency.

I'm trying to be aware of and sensitive to all concerned.

ed: please kick and reccommend this up.

[G_j]

6. I was thinking about this

as some jerk weather person inferred it would be a 'good thing for the US' if the storm went inland and weakened.

sickening

[marions ghost]

8. yeah I've been appalled too

at some of the things these weather people say...I heard "Good News for Florida if Wilma hits Cuba...?!"

People outside US borders just don't really count. Take those storms over there so we don't have to deal with em here.

[politicat]

9. The sad thing is....

After listening to a CNN report on how well prepared Cuba is for massive hurricanes, they make us look like worse than the utter amateurs we are when it comes to self-sufficiency in the face of natural disasters. People don't die in Cuba from hurricanes, unlike here. (And this in one of the poorest nations in the western hemisphere....)

I am so jealous of Cuba's ability to handle medical, environmental and weather disasters... we could learn so much if we'd just realize that a communist country is not automatically the font of all evil in the world.

[EuroObserver]

11. Good quality education in Cuba too.

I've been there. I have friends from there (ok, many of the cleverest get out, many come here to Spain).

What little (mainly, actually, thanks to the US embargo, thanks) they have is pretty equitably shared amongst all.

A fine people. Of sound heart and mind.

And really no sense of paranoia at all...

ed: but the issue is catastrofe in the Yucatan here...

[murray hill farm]

12. Thank you so much, my DU family...

i am still here..and amazingly, the electricity is still going..it has been off and on all day. i will stay in my home for tonight...and tomorrow i will go next door to stay with my neighbors...and u will hate this folks, they are american repugs...hahahahahaha! And the worst of them....ah well! i keep thinking maybe i would rather drown than stay with them, but i expect that, all things considered, when it comes right down to it, i will cling to whatever life raft has two stories..and that would be them. i will keep u posted as long as i can.

[phusion]

13. You're staying at Isla Mujeres?

Please stay safe and keep in touch!

[murray hill farm]

14. i had to...

tried to get the ferry last night...could not get on..long lines...went in this morning...and they had stopped running...so i am here..like it or not.

[karlrschneider]

17. Couldn't you find someone with a private boat you could hire?

I'm really frightened for you.

[murray hill farm]

22. with enough money...

i probably could have found some fool in a small boat to take me across...but it is already too rough for the ferry to go...it would be foolhearty to try to make it in a small boat.

[murray hill farm]

29. please recommed this..so we can keep it going...

pleesssee! i so much appreciate the contact..i feel so cut off from the world.

[karlrschneider]

15. Don't take this wrong...but write your SSN on your arm or leg

I wish you would reconsider...get inland. I have friends in Merida if you have noplace to go...please stay safe!!!

[EuroObserver]

16. Hi Pat. Much love from here in Europe.

Seems wind, and supplies may be your most immediate concerns.

edit: still communicating by means of this faulty keyboard.

ed again: faulty

[EuroObserver]

19. Pat: what's your altitude above normal sea-level? n/t

[murray hill farm]

28. we are just above sea level here...

the island is only 5 miles long and about one half mile wide at the widest point...there may be points on the island that are perhaps 6 or 7 ft above sea level...there is a large shelf in the caribbean side of the water...so that may help with the surge, since there is not enough space for a large surge to form..that may help...may be only 11 or 12 foot surges...and as bad as that seems...it is a big thing when it comes to surges.

[EuroObserver]

35. Jesus. 5-67t, 12ft surge and waves on top of that.

+ powerful winds and rain. Get yourself into the most solid, two or three-storey building you can find, and tie yourself very tight to something when the time comes.

You'll be ok. Look after others, later. I see you know how to be cool, stay calm.

Admirable, thanks Pat. Maintain/reestablish contact please. I'm now counselling my niece who also wants to remain on Grand Bahama, later...

[cally]

21. My thoughts are with you

Please consider going further inland with any others you can convince to go. This is going to be devastating. :hug:

I'm concerned about all. Some of the small towns in the yucatan are right on the water and will be devastated. I hope the hurrican turns or weakens.

[murray hill farm]

24. It is too late to go across...the water is way to rough...

waves way too big to try it. at this point, it would be more dangerous to try to get off the island than to ride it out. those of us that are here now..cannot get off. We already have high winds and rain...and huge waves in the water. Thank u all for caring. i am hopeful, of course, that i will be able to ride this out..my neighbors..although...i hate the thought of being with them..ha..they are everything we hate....died in the wool repugs...but..hey! Anyway..they do have a two story house...and i will go over and stay with them when it gets bad. i think i will be ok...i am afraid...but i really do think it will be ok. i will keep in touch as long as i can.

[cally]

25. I think you will be OK, also.

Stay safe and come online and share your adventure. :hug:

[progressivebydesign]

60. I was thinking about you this morning. Glad you're okay.

Stay safe with your neighbors. We're all just people anyway. They sound really nice to take you in.. Convert them while you're there.. ha, ha. Stay safe and keep us posted!!

[murray hill farm]

18. on the lighter side...

i have had a large bottle of tequilla for about a year...i just cracked it.............and it tastes pretty good. ONe way to deal with a storm..ha!

[malaise]

27. Stay safe and

post a charity or organization where we can send help. Wilma is on the rampage and it will be a very rough 48 hours.

[stop the bleeding]

30. Stay safe and keep us updated as long as Wilma permits, and

have a shot of worm juice for me.:beer:

[suffragette]

31. Stay safe and snug

Hope you have some lime to go with that tequila.
:-)
Once you're over with your neighbors, can you play cards or something, both to occupy the time and to have something neutral to do with them?

[wovenpaint]

32. Sending good thoughts your way

I'll keep you in my prayers tonight-along with your repug neighbors, lol. Ration that tequila ,not a good time for a hangover :-)
Best of luck to you.

[Rowdyboy]

33. A toast to you.....

:toast: PLEASE let us hear from you as soon as possible. Our thoughts are with you.

Isla Mujeres is one of my favorite places on earth, I wish the whole island well.

[EuroObserver]

36. PLASE RECOMMEND THIS, so mexicopat stays in touch

on greatest next 24 hours: at least 4 more votes required.

Many thanks.

[NoBushSpokenHere]

39. Recommended n/t

[Greyskye]

41. Hang in there MP!

We're thinking of you AND your repub neighbors; hope you all come through OK! :grouphug:

[ChiciB1]

42. Sending My Deepest Sympathies....

Don't really know what else to say. I live right up the road from Ft. Myers, FL and have packed all my valuables already. Fortunately, we have been given what I'll just say LOTS of time!

After last year, I was hoping we had been passed over. By Sunday night I HOPE we'll have better information, but we may head up to Inverness before then.

Good Luck and I hopefully after next week we'll ALL be back here "mixing it up" again!

[ChiciB1]

43. A Link To Keep You Up To Date...

I've kept this link since last year and just checked it out again. It's one of the best I can find.

http://forecast.mssl.ucl.ac.uk/shadow/

[Nothing Without Hope]

44. Thank you for posting this and for the tip on Jeff Masters' blog.

As with the devastation in Pakistan, the coming Mexican disaster MUST NOT BE IGNORED.

Recommended.

[LeahD]

46. Wishing you safety. n/t

[murray hill farm]

47. Thank you, euroobserver!

What u say is so true! Even the best of weather observers..is ever so thankful that Wilma might wonder around the yucatan...and weaken the impact on the usa...and expresses it without thought about the thousands who will be effected here..sad, but true.

[ClayZ]

48. Just lit a candle for you!

Keep Safe!

:hide:

[Booster]

49. Thanks for the reminder. I'm lighting a candle right now for

mexicopat AND her republican neighbors. Hang in there Pat.

[EuroObserver]

52. ... AND her Mexican neighbors I hope and pray... n/t

[ngGale]

51. Kick...

:kick:

[expatriot]

53. Despite my DU name, I'm no world traveller. but I've been there.

The only time I have been more than twenty miles beyond the borders of the United States was when my wife and I went with my parents on a four day getaway to Cozumel, Cancun and one day at Chichen Itza. It was one of the if not the single most enchanted and memorable few days of my life. Driving into the jungles to see the ruins, the quiet beaches of Cozumel, all the proud yet welcoming Mayan peoples of that area. My heart is aching.

We better fucking have our naval vessels still in the Gulf on stand by.
They helped us with Katrina, we better fuckig reciprocate.

[Zhade]

54. Kick for our comrades.

:dem:

[Boomer]

55. Good luck -- keep us posted.

:kick:

[tavalon]

56. lets kick this important thing now

[Just Me]

57. I light two candles for those in Wilma's path. (((HUG)))

If you are able, please move to safer grounds. Otherwise, join with others in your community to seek safe shelter and care for one another.

:grouphug:

[mtnester]

58. Here are a couple of sites that people are posting to as long as they can

from the area. Some folks in touch with people that still have phones, but no electricity. Apparently, the Mexican government has issued a release about the worst to come around noon today:

http://stormcarib.com/reports/2005/mexico.shtml

http://www.locogringo.com/forums/tt.asp?forumid=2

[Boomer]

59. Mexicopat, are you still in Isla Mujeres?

From StormCarib.com blog: "Also the tourists from cozumel island and isla mujeres (were to) evacuate to Cancun to shelters as well."

[Boomer]

61. Some Cancun photos from the blog

http://stormcarib.com/reports/2005/mexico.shtml

[EuroObserver]

62. New Thread

Started by mexicopat here: "Keep talking to me please" http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5117434#5121029

Following onto further new thread here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5121850