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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:11 PM
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Brewster-Jennings
How come they are never any discussions here about who leaked the name of Brewster-Jennings. Wouldn't that information also be classified secret?
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:13 PM
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1. Good point...I think that Brewster Jennings and Plame are the sleepers
here.
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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:15 PM
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2. That's easy
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 08:16 PM by rox63
Novak did that, in his second column about the Wilsons. Everyone other than the CIA and her husband thought she worked as an energy consultant for a company called Brewster-Jennings. You probably could have found that out talking to her next-door-neighbor.
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:16 PM
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3. Brewster-Jennings was an open name...
It was cover. The fact that Plame worked for Brewster-Jennings was an open "fact." What was secret was the fact that Brewster-Jennings was a faux company.

Be careful.

When you talk about what is or isn't secret, do not think in terms of names. That's absurd. Think in terms of statements. Consider the following statements:

* Valerie Plame is Joe Wilson's wife.

* Valerie Plame works for Brewster-Jennings.

* Brewster-Jennings is a CIA cover company.

Some of those statements were secret. Some weren't. It wasn't about the names.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:09 PM
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18. Right on. In exposing Valerie Plame as a NOC, they exposed BJ&A.
The neocons got a twofer and wiped out a source of uncompromised intel that blew holes in their faux intel ops. Now they can gear up their disintel ops with less of that 'troublesome' intel.
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:20 PM
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4. it's the elephant in the closet.
just because it's not talked about in the news doesn't mean Fitz isn't on it. i've heard that people were executed when Plame was revealed, solely on the fact that they worked at B-J with her. if that is true, you can bet your bootie that this is not an outing case. it's an espionage case and there will be treason charges and the death penalty is not out of the question. the fact that it's not discussed in the media is irrelevant at this point. how much did we know about the Hansen spy case?
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Dems Will Win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:26 PM
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5. There was one CIA agent killed between Feb and Oct. 2003
Written in the Book of Honor at Langely. Al Martin said 60 to 70 informants and assets killed overseas in the first 2-3 weeks.

The CIA Damage Assessment on the Plame Leak is said to be "devastating".
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:31 PM
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6. It was Cheney's revenge on the CIA for not cooperating!!!
He threatened all the agents with exposure it was extortion and Black Mail!!! Problem is Cheney was playing with the Best of the Best Blackmailers!!! He was such a dangerous fool!!!
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:31 PM
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7. Where did you hear that Dems?
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galloglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:52 PM
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13. Don't have a URL, but...
There was at least one person "put down" during that period of time, as I read it while looking for another connection... Nobel Prize winner, Mohammed El-Baradei. Both Plame and El-Baradei were watching the same WMD players during that time, while I was following the Bush attempts to discredit the UN at any cost.

Reading wire service reports in the run up to the Invasion, from 2002 until 2003, I noticed a death (of what I assumed was a CIA informant) that occurred in one of the ex-Soviet countries. Last winter I posted around to find if anyone could access deaths through Lexis-Nexis that would be connected to Brewster-Jennings, given Plame's identity.

Alas, there were no takers. But, I am sure FitzGerald has access top that information. And, if there was one, there were probable at least a dozen more.

And Gary, above, is correct. Those indirect deaths could be considered "homicides committed in the course of another felony", for which one can earn their Certificate for Cyanide, delivered by the appointed Federal prison.



Isn't it ironic that the one person Bush hates worse that Joe Wilson could be his downfall? Can't you just picture Mohammed El-Baradei, sitting in the dock holding his Nobel Prize, testifying against that whole rabid pack of evil weasels?



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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:04 AM
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19. Hi galloglas!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Monkey see Monkey Do Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:33 PM
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9. I wouldn't put much trust
in anything Al Martin has to say.
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:44 PM
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11. Could you give me a reference for this information? I'm asking
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 09:02 PM by tnlefty
because the LTTE that I wrote during the DU Activist Corps. letter writing campaign omitted the name of Brewster Jennings. Someone that I know who wrote a LTTE a few days after and called Rove, Bushco** out on being traitors, when I called and asked that person mentioned that a reference to Brewster/Jennings was omitted from that LTTE, also.

I was pissed that the most damning info. in my LTTE was "disappeared" and so was the person that I spoke with.

Whoops, is the reference Al Martin? I'll check the website.

edit: Apparently one has to pay to access this type of info. Do you have a more direct link for this?
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:32 PM
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8. Brewster Jennings is the third, unspoken crime in this mess
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 08:33 PM by DemsUnited
1st crime is the lies and forgeries that got us into a illegal war.

2nd crime is the outing of a CIA operative to cover up & deflect attention from the lies and forgeries.

3rd crime is the exposure of Brewster Jennings, a CIA front company. In my opinion, this is the reason the CIA went screaming to the Justice Department, the reason Ashcroft recused himself and the reason a real prosecutor was called in to investigate.

Exposing and shutting down Brewster Jennings is as criminally treasonous as you can get, short of lying the country into war (oh, right, they did do that). B-J operated in the Middle East and Russia, gathering WMD intelligence as well as monitoring loose nukes, an essential mission. It probably took many, many years, a ton of money, and a lot of dedicated people to build the company up.

Now, an entire intelligence network is useless. Any operative who used B-J as a cover, or had any type of public contact with the company, is at risk of exposure. Any foreign national who did "business" with B-J will be scrutinized by their own government and suspected of passing information to the CIA. And a window into an important area of national security is completely closed.

There is very little talk about Brewster Jennings because to discuss it would compound the damage even more.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:36 PM
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10. Damn it-- I just read it was Novak
I was trolling various sites and I didn't save the link or take note of where I read it :(

It totally pisses me off when I do this--maybe if you google Novak Brewster Jennings you could find it?
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 08:46 PM
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12. Yes, it was Novak in a CNN interview a week or two after he outed Plame
He is a traitor and should be executed.

And I'm not kidding about that.
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 09:35 PM
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14. Wikipedia has ref's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brewster_Jennings_&_Associates
Plame's status was revealed by Robert Novak (based on leaked information) in a 2003 column. In an interview on CNN, he said "Wilson's wife, the CIA employee, gave $1,000 to Gore and she listed herself as an employee of Brewster-Jennings & Associates. There is no such firm, I'm convinced." :eyes: It later turned out that BJ&A did exist for all intents and purposes, listed on the Dun & Bradstreet database of company names.

Since NOCs (CIA agents under nonofficial cover) usually work at companies set up by the CIA itself as fronts, it has been speculated that other employees of BJ&A may also have been NOCs, doing work similar to Plame. If that were true, the damage done by leaking Plame's name would be vastly multiplied, as all the other NOCs would be compromised.


Article where Novak outs B/J:
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20031004.shtml

In making her April 22, 1999, contribution, Valerie E. Wilson identified herself as an "analyst" with "Brewster-Jennings & Associates." No such firm is listed anywhere, but the late Brewster Jennings was president of Socony-Vacuum oil company a half-century ago. Any CIA employee working under "non-official cover" always is listed with a real firm, but never an imaginary one.

Uh, no Bob, sometimes entire companies are fronts. But you knew that.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:56 PM
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16. Thank you!!!......Good old Novac, whata ass!!!
Destruction of B& J was intent by Cheney.

Yep this man will be removed from office!!

Hats off to the CIA!!!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:50 PM
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15. :kick:
:kick:
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CantGetFooledAgain Donating Member (635 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 10:57 PM
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17. This is an enormous crime
And nobody in the corporate media is saying anything about it! Are they so ignorant, or do they think that by being silent they can make it all go away?
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