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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:07 AM
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Was Plame Outed by a Foreign Spy? (Justin Raimondo)
October 21, 2005
Was Plame Outed
by a Foreign Spy?
The Larry Franklin-Plame connection
by Justin Raimondo

For a good many years, I have been writing about the tremendous influence of the neoconservatives in formulating and implementing U.S. foreign policy, and maintaining that their role has not just been important – it has been decisive. For underscoring the neocons' pivotal role – since before the Kosovo war – I have been called a lot of uncomplimentary names, the least of which is "conspiracy theorist," and for a while there Antiwar.com's insistence on emphasizing this theme tended to isolate us from antiwar leftists, as well as alienating the more "mainstream" types who doubted whether such an abstruse ideological movement could possibly wield the sort of clout I was describing.

No more. Now the lefties over at, say, DailyKos.com, are hip to the magnitude of the threat and are busy poring over old PNAC position papers <.pdf> looking for clues to our present predicament. Even the word neocon, once all but unrecognizable to the great majority of readers, is now firmly embedded in the American political lexicon – even as the consequences of their policies exact an ever increasing toll. Yet still there are some doubters: how could such a small group of people exercise such power – especially considering that they aren't exactly a mass movement. Someone once quipped that there are only about 20 or so neocons – but 18 of them are major newspaper columnists. Yet there is more to it than that, and now that Scooter-gate is unfolding before the astonished eyes of official Washington, the neocons' ubiquity in the mid-to-upper levels of the U.S. government's national security and foreign policy bureaucracy is all too obvious. General Anthony Zinni was one of the first to call attention to the dangers inherent in the neocons' foreign policy specialization, and now we have another major senior figure in the Washington policy establishment coming forward to confirm, in no uncertain terms, the nature and extent of the problem.

Col. Lawrence Wilkerson was Colin Powell's chief of staff over at the State Department, where he formerly served as associate director of policy planning. Before that, he was the director of the U.S. Marine Corps War College. At a recent talk given at the New America Foundation in Washington, D.C., Col. Wilkerson described the dysfunctional mess the national security bureaucracy finds itself in these days, due in large part to the sheer complexity of the problems we face. He emphasized the need for dissent, because the would-be central planners can't possibly know all there is to know about even a single issue – say, nuclear proliferation – and must depend on others who have no compunctions about speaking freely, without fear of violating some party line. Yet that, he sadly avers, is not the case today:

"And when I say that is not the case today, I stop on 26 January 2005. I don't know what the case is today; I wish I did. But the case that I saw for four-plus years was a case that I have never seen in my studies of aberrations, bastardizations, perturbations, changes to the national security decision-making process. What I saw was a cabal between the vice president of the United States, Richard Cheney, and the secretary of defense, Donald Rumsfeld, on critical issues that made decisions that the bureaucracy did not know were being made. And then when the bureaucracy was presented with the decision to carry them out, it was presented in a such a disjointed, incredible way that the bureaucracy often didn't know what it was doing as it moved to carry them out."

snip>http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=7717
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:10 AM
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1. Nominated.
...in case it has not been posted before, and I haven't noticed it.

Raimondo is on an "I told you so" roll, and that's o.k. with me.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:21 AM
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2. this scenario is devastating for the US-Israel relation
if confirmed...
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:28 AM
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3. He's opened another door hasn't he?
Wonder who his sources are.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:31 AM
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4. Check out the new WSJ article I posted in LBN.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:58 AM
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7. I just did. There are some really scared
people judging by the pooh-poohing about leaking classified material, but the paper realizes there is a fire behind all the smoke.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:38 AM
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5. He may only have one?
But if that one is feeding him fact, that's all he needs.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 12:39 AM
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6. He may only have one?
But if that one is feeding him fact, that's all he needs.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:09 AM
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8. This is a very REAL Possibility!!!
"The FBI was listening as Franklin and Gilon discussed closely held national security secrets. The question is: Do the Feds have the two of them on tape gossiping about that troublesome gal over at the CIA's anti-nuclear-proliferation unit whose husband could potentially cause the War Party an awful lot of trouble?"


And Pearle and Cheney can get rid of some very troublesome problems with one Scoop!!!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 01:52 AM
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9. K and R and bookmarked. Thanks. ........n/t
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 02:39 AM
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10. Wow. Miller...Plame... I had an idea that AIPAC was tied to Plame
These excerpts which don't get into the Plame aspect do indicate that our gov is working with the Likud party and that this relationship was the motivation behind invading Iraq. Wow.

<snip>

The "Clean Break" strategy proposed an attempt by Israel to break out of its military and political isolation in the midst of a hostile Arab sea by pursuing regime-change in Iraq, and eventually Syria. Wurmser sought to mobilize the far-right wing of Israel's Likud party, represented by Netanyahu, around a vision of a Greater Israel surrounded by much lesser enemies. Syria, in Wurmser's view, was the main target, but the road to Damascus, he contended, had to run though Baghdad. "Whoever inherits Iraq dominates the entire Levant strategically," he wrote. The key to Israel's regional hegemony was in rejecting "land for peace" and creating a "natural axis" consisting of Israel, Jordan, and a Hashemite Iraq that could "squeeze and detach Syria from the Saudi peninsula." This would be "the prelude to redrawing the map of the Middle East" – to Israel's advantage, of course.

Among the other co-authors whose names adorn "A Clean Break": Douglas J. Feith, director of policy at the Department of Defense, and the ubiquitous Richard Perle, who is having his own problems with prosecutor Fitzgerald.

<snip>

...the Israelis have played a key role in influencing the U.S. government to tread the path to war – covertly in the case of Iraq, and now quite openly when it comes to Syria and Iran.

The Israeli penetration of our national security has been put in the spotlight, lately, by the indictment – and guilty plea – of former Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin on charges of spying for Israel. During his tenure as the Pentagon's top Iran specialist, when he worked for Doug Feith, Franklin was caught red-handed funneling highly classified information to Steve Rosen, AIPAC's chief lobbyist, and Keith Weissman, AIPAC's top foreign policy analyst, who then passed the stolen secrets on to the Israeli embassy. The interconnectedness of the investigation into AIPAC's treason with Fitzgerald's probe is underscored by the following passage from Franklin's indictment:

<snip>

If Franklin and his Israeli handler – a nuclear weapons specialist – were talking about a woman whose "thoughts concerning the nuclear program" of a certain "Middle Eastern country" had some significance, then surely Judith Miller is a likely candidate. When we add in the business about "certain charity efforts in Foreign Nation A," the identification becomes even more credible: "Foreign Nation A" is Israel, the "charity efforts" consist of work on behalf of the Iraqi Jewish Archive, a joint project undertaken by Miller, Harold Rhode (Franklin's associate – and fellow suspect – in Feith's policy shop), and Ahmed Chalabi...

<snip>
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:55 AM
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11. Unbelievable isn't it?
And to think the whole cabal is busted. America is going to crap her pants.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:13 AM
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12. So, the guys talking about Plame, who were they, they are in this
article, it refers to them in a locker room or something...do you think they were the original source for her? Nah. Right. What do you think about this detail?
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:17 AM
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13. That is the speculation about what is on the tape.
Could be why the feds won't release the tapes to the defense right now because Fitzgerald isn't quite finished yet and they don't want it to get out what information Fitz has. Pretty gnarly, huh?

I am gonna try to go back to sleep now. Talk at ya later.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:33 AM
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14. So Chumpy and his pals are helping Likkuds to recreate the
middle east for their benefit...but Chumpy is also tied to the house of Saud. Saudi doesn't get along with the AIPAC/PNAC/Likkud types or others from that country. Israel isn't particularly fond of the Saudis either.

Hmm. What's in it for Chumpy? Why so eager to help out here? Why so eager (other than that he's pure evil) sell out "murika" for this cause? Why have other countries influence our policy and legislation? Money? Maybe, but I would guess something more. Would you?
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:53 AM
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15. .........
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:53 AM
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16. Wow. K&R.
Damn! :bounce::bounce::bounce::bounce:
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:42 AM
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17. Very Interesting, Recommended!
great article to read
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:45 AM
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18. Was Gilon Judy's source for Plame's indentity?
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 08:46 AM by seemslikeadream
from leveymg

Let's see. June 3, 2003. That was twenty days before Judy Miller's first recorded meeting with Scooter. She claims the name "Valerie Flame" written in her reporter's notebook was from another source, which she says she did not disclose to Fitzgerald, pursuant to the agreement her lawyer made with the prosecutor to keep Miller's post-release testimony to the substance of her discussions with Libby.

It all fits nicely. Maybe too nicely. This is why. It appears that the whole Plame outing conspiracy was structured to avoid prosecution under the Intelligence Identities Protection Act of 1982. (IIPA). If Judy can plausibly claim that she learned Plame's identity from Gilon -- a Mossad officer -- rather than from Scooter, that would let Libby off the hook as far as an IIPA conviction is concerned, along with anyone else at the White House she also passed identifying information about Plame to.

That particular law requires the prosecutor prove five things: 1)that the official who leaked the identity had a security clearance and 2) access to a classified document, 3) he intentionally leaked it to 4) a person without a security clearance, and 5) the US gov't was taking active measures to ptotect the covert identity of the agent who was outed.

If Gilon, an agent of a foreign government, was Miller's source for Plame's identity rather than Libby (or another US Gov't official, such as Bolton) the conspirators may have thought they had created a firewall between themselves and violation of the IIPA.

But, here's where this strategy would fail and potentially create enormous leverage for the prosecutor. If Fitzgerald had evidence that Gilon conspired to inform Miller about Plame's identity, that's Espionage and conspiracy. A violation of the section of the Espionage Act dealing with revealing classified documents to foreign powers is a potential capital offense. That's some pretty scary leverage.

I think it's entirely possible that a very powerful agency of the US Government prevailed on the Israelis to convince Gilon to talk to Fitzgerald. If Judy were linked to espionage, she would sing her head off before the Grand Jury about what she knew about Scooter and the others she talked to. And, that's exactly what I believe she has done.

If Miller was the unidentified woman referenced in the the Larry Franklin OSP-AIPAC spy case indictment, she is the key to linking the Bush White House to a foreign espionage ring that illegally funneled forged documents to the Vice President's Office in a plot to involve the US in a war with disasterous results. That is treason. It is potentially fatal to any and all involved, particularly to those officials at the top of the conspiracy.

Another possibility is that Larry Franklin was Judy's source. We know that at some point he was detected by the FBI, which "turned" him into a cooperating witness. Franklin continued to work at Feith's and Wurmser's Office of Special Plans (OSP) at the Pentagon until it was shut down, and he was indicted last summer. For months, the Bureau monitored Frankin and his conversations and meetings as he moved within the OSP and neocon network trading documents alleging Iraq and Iran WMDs back and forth with the Israelis.

If this second scenario holds, that would likely mean the FBI was also monitoring Miller, as she spread the poison pill around the White House.

Either way, OMG.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x166396#166423
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:51 AM
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19. OMG, Indeed. Exploding exponentially
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:01 AM
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20. I started a thread a couple of weeks ago in GD
My suspicion was that Miller had turned and she either did so before she went to jail or while she was there. I thought that maybe she was being followed around just like Franklin was. Franklin was confronted and decided to cooperate. I think this scenario is likely to have taken place with Judy. I think that she was kept in jail to keep her safe and or for a safe place for her to talk.
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:21 AM
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22. I missed this post. Thanks for reposting it.
This scenario, though complicated, seems plausible. Wow.
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Marie26 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:46 PM
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23. Another tie is that
John Hannah, who just flipped in the Plame case, was a former head of AIPAC. I wonder if Fitzgerald used info from the Franklin/AIPAC case to pressure him to flip on Cheney. This could go very high up & appears to have many different threads But if there's anyone smart enough to tie it all together, it's probably Fitzgerald.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:24 AM
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21. I say, damn, sir...
I am speechless.
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