Toots
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:34 AM
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Let's start with the Premise that this Administration is a Failure |
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Is it their ideology that is their failure or their implementation of that ideology or both. I mean is it just these guys that are really incompetent or is their ideology so flawed that no one could make it work successfully. IMO Providing for the wealthy over the poor and middle classed is a recipe for failure no matter who is in charge. Or is it just Bush* and his Incompetence?
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Bernardo de La Paz
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:35 AM
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1. The Arrogance of their Ideology made them complacently Incompetent. |
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:36 AM
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2. Yeah, what's your point. :~> |
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The Buddha said that making gifts of things you've stolen has the equivalent karmic effects of lightening striking a lake and killing all the fish in it.
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:38 AM
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3. Their ideology is flawed. |
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Once you realize this, it doesn't matter much if they are competent or not.
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:44 AM
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your first qs. assumes that theirs is actually an ideology, and in my opinion, they have masked their real goals as ideology...therefore, in my opinion, there isn't failure of ideology, but of the belief that entire societies can, at the end, be manipulated to satisfy someone's pursue of power and control (tons of historical and contemporary examples of this such as dictators, tyrants and so on)
second, the thing about providing for the wealthy is directly part of the previous one, any system that tries to oppress entire societies will eventually break down, just as the opposite happens.
This is not an issue just with this admin but with all sorts of regimes and systems. The difference here is that, in my opinion, we are a bit shocked by the fact that these US government is so dumb and that it is happening in the first world country and in the 21st century. We are just ashamed of this stupidity, but it isn't new to the world.
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:47 AM
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5. Their ideology is duplicitous. |
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Once WE realize that they've done exactly what they set out to do, it's not so hard to understand.
Their goals - even before getting into office - were: a war in Iraq, gutting the national infrastructure, increasing the 'wealth gap' between the classes, increasing the 'suspicion factor' between the lower classes (if the poor folk are busy attacking each other, then all of the other items are much easier to make happen), and last but not least ~ remaining entirely unaccountable.
So, they've been wildly successful, actually. It's just all been at the expense of what this country is REALLY supposed to be about and who it's supposed to be for.
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:58 AM
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Everything they've done has resulted in consolidating wealth and power in their, and their friends', hands. We are seeing the establishment of oligarchy.
They have forgotten that no oligarchy has ever held power so firmly that it didn't eventually end with its leaders hanging from lamp posts. If consolidated wealth is not re-distributed in a rational, legal manner to benefit the most disenfranchised, those disenfranchised will see to the re-distribution themselves.
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Fri Oct-21-05 10:58 AM
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7. Worse than a failure - a sham |
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GWB is a public relations creation. The GOP is full of liars, cheats and thieves, who will do anything to win.
However on oour side of the fence we have the DLC which is just as corporate friendly a the GOP.
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Fri Oct-21-05 11:22 AM
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8. I have always wondered if the ordinary bushie supporter |
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actually understands what the ultimate goal is? My dad's cousin out in SD was a rabid bushie/fallwell supporter. Yet there is no way that he would have wanted this country in the condition it is now. I think most bushie supporters are just blinded by their preachers and party. They are going to be the most upset when shit happens so that they cannot deny it anymore - i.e. depression.
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