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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:10 PM
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Scowcroft "lets it rip" like Larry Wilkerson (in Monday's New Yorker)
From Steve Clemons -

http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001022.html

The revered-in-tons-of-corners former National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft definitively breaks ranks with the Bush administration in an article by nearly the same name, "Breaking Ranks," appearing in the upcoming Monday issue of The New Yorker.

The article will outline what decisions and events have built up to turn Brent Scowcroft against this Bush administration. Yes, that's right. . ."turned Brent Scowcroft against this Bush administration."

Jeffrey Goldberg, the author of the piece, has pulled off a stunning coup by not only getting Brent Scowcroft to talk -- but also getting some incredibly juicy commentary from President George H.W. Bush on the performance of his son's national security team.

. . . more

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:12 PM
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1. Chimp must be in deep doodoo if these guys are working so hard
to incriminate the Vice and Rumskull.
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sundancekid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:14 PM
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2. oh, yea, another HumptyDumpty moment for the busheviks ... gotta love it
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:15 PM
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3. Slowly I Turn...
Step by step... Inch by inch...
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:18 PM
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4. wonder how much will be aimed at bush
and how much at his "national security team"

now that things get close its probably an attempt to focus blame on anyone but bush
though scowcroft has said some interesting/veiled things in the past but to see pa barker in the piece makes me skeptical

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:20 PM
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5. Scowcroft ALWAYS opposed bush.
Brent Scowcroft, one of the Republican Party’s most respected foreign policy advisors, and national security adviser under President Gerald Ford and George H.W. Bush:

"Don't Attack Saddam It would undermine our antiterror efforts. "Our pre-eminent security priority--underscored repeatedly by the president--is the war on terrorism. An attack on Iraq at this time would seriously jeopardize, if not destroy, the global counterterrorist campaign we have undertaken."

http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110002133
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:21 PM
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7. Scowcroft Is Critical of Bush (washingtonpost.com)
Scowcroft Is Critical of Bush
Ex-National Security Adviser Calls Iraq a 'Failing Venture'


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36644-2004Oct15.html
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:23 PM
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8. Yes, I recall those articles. Thanks.
The New Yorker piece will be a nice addition, and pile on to the Wilkerson condemnation right during the week of the Plame indictments.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:27 PM
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11. It's just more proof that the MAJORITY said HELL NO to bush & his bushit,
but the M$M and the likes of Faux Moos REFUSED to even pretend at being fair and balanced. They fucked over the American people and they KNEW they were doing it.

bushCabal fucked (are fucking) the American people and KNEW they were (are) doing it, but the MEDIA is SUPPOSED to be our watchdogs.

They failed.

Americans are dead and dying. (Not to mention the Iraqis, because most Americans don't seem to give a shit about our own soldier citizens, let alone the Iraqis.)
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:33 PM
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15. I agree. It is awful that we all knew Bush was lying and fucking up badly
yet MSM was cowed and so many Dems in the House and Senate were supine. And the war is getting worse every day.

I completely agree with you.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:24 PM
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9. Ex-Security Adviser Brent Scowcroft Rips Bush Diplomacy
The national security adviser under the first President Bush says the current president acted contemptuously toward NATO and Europe after Sept. 11 and is trying to cooperate now out of desperation to "rescue a failing venture" in Iraq and Afghanistan.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1016-04.htm
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:25 PM
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10. Scowcroft and Powell were the two reasons that Dems supported IWR. They
believed that Scowcroft and Powell would be the greater influence on the baby Bush and could keep him to the IWR and the weapons inspections and diplomacy guidelines.

Condi was mentored by Scowcroft and she bucked him to align with Cheney.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:27 PM
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13. Except Brent Scowcroft OPPOSED invading Iraq.
And he publicly said so.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:32 PM
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14. Exactly. That's why I said some Dems didn't think Bush would invade
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 03:33 PM by blm
after weapons inspections if it was unnecessary. They really expected that Powell and Scowcroft would have their say and they already knew that both were against the invasion.

I remember an article from way back that said that Dems trusted that men like Scowcroft would be influencing Bush2. I'm pretty sure that Biden was one of the ones who said it, but I can't recall exactly.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:50 PM
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17. Gotcha.
Still, they were stupid to think "the crazies" would be stopped by Powell and Scowcroft or even Poppa bush.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:24 PM
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20. heh.....who knew then that Bush hated his Poppa enough to buck him?
Hell, I thought for a long time that he was doing it FOR Poppy.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 06:37 PM
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22. do you think deep down Jr. really hates his father?
hmm.

would explain the role of women in his life.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:45 AM
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24. Must be. In Fortunate Son it describes some pretty hateful incidents
between the two.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:20 PM
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6. I admire Scowcroft
For continuing to try to talk sense to these jackasses after so many of us have given up.
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Seansky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:27 PM
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12. for just the third time I'm glad I get a hand me down copy of the NY every
Monday.......
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:36 PM
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16. From Wilson's book
he discusses a pre-war article he wrote; he sent a copy to Brent Scowcroft.

"Brent called me when he received the article. He kindly asked if he could 'take it over to the White House,' only about two blocks from his downtwn office. He said that he thought senior officials ought to read the views of someone who actually had experience in Iraq and with Saddam's government." (page 296)

This was the same article that Wilson sent Bush1, who responded that he "agreed with almost everything" Wilson wrote.

Presently, the Bush2 administration would have us believe they had never heard of Ambassador Wilson.
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kerry-is-my-prez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:08 PM
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18. He's one of Bush Sr's best friends- it's thought he's a mouthpiece for him
n/t
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 04:19 PM
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19. Right. When Scowcraft opens his mouth
it's Poppy talking.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 05:58 PM
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21. The hell he is n/t
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 06:03 PM by Debi
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:27 PM
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23. Tiny update: A UPI article
http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20051021-051052-6225r

WASHINGTON, Oct. 21 (UPI) -- The Bush administration is bracing for a powerful new attack by Brent Scowcroft, the respected national security adviser to the first President George Bush.

A Republican and a former Air Force general, Scowcroft is a leading member of the bipartisan foreign policy establishment, and his critique of both of the style and the substance of the Bush White House, is slated to appear in Monday's editions of the New Yorker magazine.

The article also contains some critical comments on the handling of U.S. foreign policy by the current President Bush from his father, whose 1989-1993 presidency is hailed for deft management of the end of the Cold War, German unification, the first Gulf war and the collapse of the Soviet Union.

The new attack comes hard on the heels of the denunciation of "the cabal around Cheney's office" by Col. Larry Wilkerson, the chief of staff to former Secretary of State Colin Powell in a widely reported speech to the New American Foundation in Washington this week. Wilkerson said the national security decision-making process was effectively "broken."

. . . mas
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:48 AM
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25. So long as this doesn't turn into, "Jeb never would have picked Cheney"
it looks good.
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