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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:26 PM
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Why did so many Dems vote against the Coburn Amendment?
Edited on Fri Oct-21-05 09:33 PM by bushmeat
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=109&session=1&vote=00262

It would have cut the pork out of the transportation bill.
These are the only ones that voted in support of it. Am I missing something?

Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bayh (D-IN)
Burr (R-NC)
Coburn (R-OK)
Conrad (D-ND)
DeMint (R-SC)
DeWine (R-OH)
Feingold (D-WI)
Graham (R-SC)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Sununu (R-NH)
Vitter (R-LA)

I applaud Mary Landrieu, Feingold & Conrad and Bayh for having spines!
:headbang:


Shame on the DNC for not supporting it. The only money I contribute will be to one of these D's for reelection. Someone give me a reason not to be pissed about this.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:34 PM
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1. Those Democrats you list are DLC, New Dems.
The DNC does not have a vote.
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lcordero2 Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:43 PM
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3. Feingold isn't DLC
And probably will never be.

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=83

At the session, senators heard from Democratic campaign lawyer Bob Bauer, a favorite of those senators for whom reform is less progress than threat. Bauer delivered dire warnings about the dangers of the McCain-Feingold law -- and of moves by US Sen. Russ Feingold, D-Wi., to toughen Federal Election Commission regulations and enforcement procedures.

Feingold disagreed. Arguing that Democratic senators ought to embrace reforms aimed at driving the influence of big-money out of politics, Feingold dismissed claims that law-abiding senators could be overwhelmed by legal threats from the FEC and Republican operatives.

Feingold's remarks rubbed US Sen. Hillary Clinton the wrong way. "Russ, live in the real world," yelled Clinton, one of the Senate's most aggressive fund raisers. Recalling the struggles of her husband's presidency and her own Senate race, sources say Clinton told Feingold he should be wary of "political adversaries." "They will be all over you like a June bug," counseled Clinton.

Clinton's outburst stunned the 20 senators who were present into silence. Finally, Feingold replied, "I also live in the real world, senator, and I function quite well in it."
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:47 PM
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5. I only saw DLC's Bayh, Conrad, and Landrieu listed,...missed Feingold
I guess I missed his name.

I sort of find it ironic that those are the only ones the poster will support at all.

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lcordero2 Donating Member (832 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 10:08 PM
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8. My standards are narrower than his because I will only support
Feingold and ONLY Feingold.
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recovering democrat Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:42 PM
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2. Also pissed.
Message:
I have two Republican Senators and have expressed my displeasure to both of them about voting against the "bridges" amendment. Otherwise, I can't stand Coburn. But I agree that Dems need to be setting a better example by voting for these efforts to deal with the more ridiculous budget busting pork.

It isn't enough to stand by and be silent.

Check out Club for Growth note on this subject.
http://www.clubforgrowth.org/blog/archives/026385.php

Whatever the Democrats think they are doing, nothing like this went on during the last Democratic administration!
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:43 PM
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4. the devil is in the details...
and, there are more ammendments to the bill being worked on.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:49 PM
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6. Simple
Cut one state's pork, pretty soon no one's barrel is sacred.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 09:59 PM
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7. That's Politix 101-- more people should take the course, and...
remember the currently sainted Senator Byrd's past history on highway appropriations.

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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:29 PM
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9. maybe because coburn is a flaming lunatic reichwing nutbar?
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:41 AM
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10. well, thats a good enough reason for me :D, sounds like everyone wanted
This to be known as the "coburn" amendment so it would be sure to fail / provide cover to those voting against it.

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