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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:43 AM
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More on Bush Records Purge-remember his driver's license?
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 08:57 AM by liveoaktx
http://victorian.fortunecity.com/brambles/499/Bush/Hiding/hiding.html
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Now why would George Dubya require a Texas driver's license with an entirely new number? It was obtained on March 31, 1995, as was his wife's Laura Welch Bush's. His wife and daughters didn't need new numbers, nor did his famous parents - former president and first lady, George H. and Barbara Pierce Bush - who all would seem to be at as much risk security-wise. And by the way, doesn't Texas require renewal of a driver's license every four years on one's birthday? Did George Dubya have something in his past to hide to cause him to purge the old record and number? This seems especially confusing since his birthday is July 6, 1946, but he obtained his new number on March 31, 1995 as a renewal.

Due to this little anomaly, we thought perhaps we should check to see if this was a common practice for former governors of Texas, but no, they were not listed among the first four numbers previous to Dubya's. Now, in all fairness to Dubya we must ask why he would get a new number and not just assume it was to hide something in his past life. And why would he be given the nine-digit DL number 000000005? His wife's DL number is 005295107.

Is it at all possible it is innocent? Of course, but if Bill Clinton had done this we would all be hearing about some misdeed he was covering up.

Which brings us to another subject on Dubya. During our search for the truth about Dubya's past, we came across something very interesting indeed! Another George W. Bush, white male, blue eyes, brown hair, but born on Oct. 17, 1964! What called our attention to this person, since there are so many Bushes living in Texas, this person's record was deleted on Dec. 24, 1998. Could there possibly be a connection between this person and Dubya that we as voters as yet are not aware of and why was his record deleted? For that matter, is it possible to have a living skeleton in one's closet from a wildly misspent youth? We shudder to think of the implications considering the havoc wreaked on the president based on lies about paternity of a child, and not even a name or physical description in common? We wonder what Dubya will say about these questions???
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**Harriet Miers was working for him in this time period according to this article
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/politics/12965946.htm

The 1998 totals dwarfed the $7,000 Bush paid Miers' firm during his first run for governor in 1994, and are extremely large for campaign legal work in Texas, an expert said.

"I'm baffled," said Randall B. Wood, a partner in the Austin firm of Ray, Wood and Bonilla, and former director of Common Cause of Texas. "I've never seen that kind of money spent on a campaign lawyer. It's unprecedented."



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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:46 AM
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1. Par for the course in the Bush sphere.
Rewarding cronyism.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:52 AM
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2. But did you see the first op article, which insinuates that the reason the
record was purged, is that he may have a living skeleton in his closet (besides possibly other records such as DWI)
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:55 AM
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3. I'll have to use this on my show.
Great stuff!
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:56 AM
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4. This should suprise me, but it just doesn't even phase me
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:02 AM
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5. At least it's appropriate that his license number is a bunch of zeroes.
Should have been nothing but sixes, though.

I always thought the episode of the license-fixing was evidence of a criminal cover-up. People just don't understand how powerful the bush family is. This is not a minor thing which they accomplished. How can the supporters of Little Boots just shrug this off? Would they shrug it off if someone moved in next door and they found out their past license had been completely replaced, with no trace? Yet they trust this guy to run the country? Jeebers.
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fed-up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:23 AM
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6. Read "Fortunate Son" by James Hatfield (suicided???)
Fortunate Son: George W. Bush and the Making of an American President
by James Hatfield

read the reviews here

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1887128840/ref=olp_product_details/103-9293243-4575029?%5Fencoding=UTF8&v=glance
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:25 AM
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7. Yeah, I have, that's what reminded me.. I wondered if Miers
was working for him at the time the license was altered and the first one purged. She was.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:46 AM
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8. spring 2004 i heard he also got a new social security number
i dont know why anyone would need a new number and NOONE gets a new number. i havent seen it since. this was when i was doing a lot of research on his youth.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:46 AM
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9. Nominated for Greatest page. Bookmarked.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:53 AM
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10. Things that make you say...
HOLY FUCK IF THIS WERE CLINTON THE M$M WOULD BE HAVING A GOD DAMN FIELD DAY!

:D
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 11:03 AM
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11. It's what it appears to be. They were cleaning his record.
Same for Laura, who, after all, did run down and kill her boyfriend for seeing someone else.

The story alluded to fits with stories of a child Bush may have fathered with a female domestic worker in his father's household.

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:26 PM
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14. What doesn't make sense is the second George W. Bush, same name.
Did he marry the woman? Is that why his driver's license number was changed, because then the marriage could be traced? I don't know what it takes to trace a marriage record in Texas. You can bet all records have been expunged, though.

And if he didn't marry her, why on earth would a woman want to name her child after the rat bastard who deserted her?

One more question: There was an alleged abortion in georgie's past. Did Barb and Poppy put their foot down the second time he impregnated a woman and orchestrate the abortion behind the scenes or compel their son to do so?

David Bowman: The first thing in your book that everyone is going to jump on is your claim that young George W. Bush paid for his girlfriend's illegal abortion.

Larry Flynt: You can't stay with a story this long and not believe in it. In 2000, I got a call from a lawyer in Houston. He told me that his client, "Susan," could prove that George W. Bush arranged for his girlfriend to have an abortion back in the early 1970s. Her boyfriend at the time, "Clyde," was pals with Bush and set up the procedure. We checked up and found that indeed "Clyde" was responsible for keeping Bush out of trouble. Bush had knocked up a girl named "Rayette." We talked to the doctor that performed the abortion. We felt we really had a blockbuster story, but about two months before we were going to break the story, "Susan" disappeared. We finally found her. She was living in a half-million-dollar home in Corpus Christi, Texas. Before that she was living in a small apartment working for $13,000 a year as a cocktail waitress. I'm not saying Bush bought her off, but I'm confident that one or more of his cronies did. The only thing that interested me in this story is -- I'm pro-choice, but to have a guy who is running on a pro-life platform ... and this procedure was committed in 1971, two years before Roe vs. Wade, which would have made it a crime.

I went to two members of the national press (during the 2000 presidential campaign) and said, "Look. I don't have anyone out on the stump. You guys do. At least ask Bush the question." You know what? They refused to. One of them had the nerve to tell me that the election was too close. "We don't want to be the ones to tip it in any direction." I thought, that gives you a really great feeling about the press.


http://bushwatch.net/flyntabortion.htm

So many secrets in the House of bush ...
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:28 PM
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15. I looked up that lady on the internet one time-she lives in Boerne, TX
now and is married.
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 12:34 PM
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16. And I'm willing to bet ...
she lives a very low-key, low-profile life.

Thanks for the additional info. Hmm, I wonder if she's registered as a Repub or a Dem :)
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suziedemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:35 PM
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18. Press admits they don't want to report stories that might affect election!
That is just stunning!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:46 PM
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22. The New York Times admitted they pulled the story of bush's back bulge.
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 05:46 PM by Straight Shooter
They held a meeting and decided it might affect the election, so they pulled the story.

Can you even begin to imagine the coverage if Gore had been suspected of carrying a receiver in the 2000 election, or Kerry in 2004? When people say The NYT is liberal, I look at 'em like they're from another planet.
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suziedemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:28 PM
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17. FINALLY- someone talks about Laura "accidentally" killing her ex-boyfriend
I always thought that was VERY suspicious - yet no one seems to care at all.

I also think her "I'm so prissy and perfect" act is a total fraud.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 11:09 AM
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12. that web site has pirated that story
It was copyrighted by Online Journal, the entity that investigated and broke the story.

So I suggest that credit be given where it is due.

Here's a link to Online Journal's story.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:OgErzCTiPSYJ:www.onlinejournal.com/Media/Redux/redux.html+online+journal+texas+drivers+license&hl=en
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 11:46 AM
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13. Wow. So....so far there's the new TDL, and then this:
Gag order lifted for ex-lottery boss claiming Miers kept 'lid' on Bush Guard controversy

And for some reason, this quote from Gary Mauro (re: how much the "Shrubya for Governor" campaign spent on attorneys fees to Meirs' firm) keeps ringing in my head:

"If they're spending that kind of money," said Mauro, now an Austin attorney who estimates he spent less than $20,000 on legal fees during the {1998 Texas Governor} campaign, 'they're spending it to protect themselves from something."



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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:40 PM
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19. No surprise. Gonzales helped him get out of jury duty
to avoid disclosing the drinking/driving charge. Just add Miers to the list of people who have helped him cover up his criminal past and now are getting rewarded.

http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20020318/3948380s.htm

Got Bush off jury duty

One of Gonzales' most controversial actions in that post was helping to get George W. Bush excused from jury duty in 1996, a situation that could have required the governor to disclose his then-secret 1976 conviction for drunken driving in Maine. Gonzales suggested to the judge and defense lawyer that if Bush served, he would not, as governor, be able to pardon the defendant in the future.


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ignatzmouse Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:41 PM
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20. Zabasearch
http://www.zabasearch.com/query2_zaba.php?RecordsetId=11300165066406890017493542541A&hd=&total=112&ref=&se=&hname=&cn=BIGipServerPDWebPool&cv=134440202.20480.0000&first=George&last=Bush&search_state=ALL&sname_banner=George+W+Bush&banner_blog=George+W+Bush

There's quite a few George W. Bushes including a number in Texas. Likely the names are just coincidences, but if you wish to research further, compare the name with the birth dates in question at the above link.
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liveoaktx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:33 PM
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21. Hmm
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 05:35 PM by liveoaktx
A George W Bush born October 1964, currently of Racine, WI with records in Houston and Katy, TX.


Wonder if this is the same one who had his birth records deleted in 1998?
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:19 PM
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23. just throwing this in...
I gave up driving for a few years. As a result, my Texas driver's license expired. When I applied for a new one, I was issued a new TDL number.

Maybe Dubya and Pickles let theirs lapse.
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