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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:36 AM
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Is racism part of Republican "values"?
I can't help but ask this. I've seen countless Freepers who condone racism as the norm or pretend it doesn't exist. Their always talking about values and that's the argument some used during segregation that equal rights was immoral. I'm not making a blanket statement on all Republicans, just the fringe ones (Dobson, Santorum).
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:40 AM
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1. Absolutely! Where racism is strong, they're strong.
Without the old South racist Republicans, there would be no modern Republican party.

That was made painfully obvious in the entire treatment of New Orleans and Katrina.


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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:31 AM
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11. Stop blaming it on just the South
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 10:32 AM by ultraist
Dobson, Robertson, Paul Weyrich, the Christian Coalition, the Heritage foundation and the Council for National Policy are not even Southern orgs---they were created in the Midwest, by Midwesterners and are the main money machines behind the Repuke party.

Recently the CFNP claimed that slavery was "God's will" and that Blacks who denounce America are denouncing God. Blatant racist BS.

Racism isn't just a Southern problem, and Midwesterners and Northerners need to wake the fuck up and step out of their denial.

Some of the worst conditions for Blacks, exist outside of the South. Boston & NYC, for example, have the most segregated public schools. DC has the highest infant mortality rates for Black babies. Detroit, has some of the highest poverty rates for Blacks.

Better keep a close eye on the Religious Right---much of their money and support does not come from the South:
http://theocracywatch.org/


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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:53 PM
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21. Agreed - it is NOT confined just to the South
Nor is it confined to white people. Where I live, in the south end of Seattle, there are a lot of whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Indians (from India, not Native American Indians), etc. I was going to meet a client once, who was black, in a teryaki restaurant run by a Chinese family. I was not sure if it would still be open at the time we were to meet, and my client said, "Oh, those people are too hungry for the mighty dollar to ever close early." The other day, I was in the liquor store, and the Indian clerk was arguing with a black customer, whom she thought had stolen something and put it in her pocket (turns out it was a can of pop she had been drinking as she came into the store). When the woman left, the clerk said to me, "Those people are always stealing things. You have to watch them." And of course, there is the white-on-black and black-on-white racism.

So it is all over, and anyone, of any race, can be guilty of racism. So sad, but so true.
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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:34 PM
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30. Dobson began in So Cal
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:35 PM
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26. The Katrina angle is correct
Republicans were thinking all the victims were criminals who wanted their money and that food and water is a luxary. They were saying mean things about people when they needed help, because they were black.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:45 AM
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2. Don't call it racism. Call it an assumption and promotion of white
superiority.
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eallen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:48 AM
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3. Actually, the GOP has done a fair job of shedding racism.
While there is still some racism among the rank and file, if you listen and observe the leaders of the GOP, they really have adopted the notion that people are people, regardless of skin color. More importantly, they have made it semi-official policy. David Duke was officially reproved by the GOP, when he ran in their primary. Even Bob Jones University now allows interracial dating.

I detest Dobson and Santorum because they are religious wackos who would destroy civil liberty in the US. But I don't know that they are racist. If you know otherwise, I'd love to have the facts.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:04 AM
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5. Lip service
The GOP actually works hard for the political benefits they receive from ingrained racist attitudes of the Red unwashed.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:13 AM
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6. "some racism among the rank and file" - I've never met a non-racist Repuke
Never ever once have I gotten to know a republican who wasn't a racist - and this is in the Northeast. If you can introduce me to a Republican who you say isn't a racist, let me take that person out to dinner with drinks. Their racism will bubble to the surface within 3 hours - guaranteed. I meet a ton of Republicans in buisiness situations as well and they inevitably berate minorities the first chance they get.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:42 AM
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15. I agree
I have the same experience. After a few conversations, particularly with alcohol, something always comes up eventually. Especially if a discussion of affirmative action comes up. Or, more recently, Hurricane Katrina.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:36 AM
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12. Of course they are racist.
They support racist policies. Wake up!
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:39 AM
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13. yep, that is why the former RNC chair, and now gov of MS -
openly cavorted with the CCC (the slightly less virulent version of the KKK). The gop still embraces racism - they just try to keep a veneer on it.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:45 PM
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27. No active opposition to it is implicit encouragement. n/t
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:51 AM
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4. Covert racism is, it appears. nt
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:15 AM
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7. I've never met a Republican who didn't end up being a racist/bigot.
It's part and parcel of being a Republican. And don't ask me to justify the minorities that would sacrifice all of their values for power in the Hate Party.
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BillZBubb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:16 AM
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8. My anecdotal experience is that all the racists I meet are Repugs
I know quite a few people who have made racist comments and every single one is a Repug. Of course, that may be because where I live just about everyone is a Repug and I don't run across that many Dems.

The Repug party has used implied racism to great effect. They outwardly condemn it, but their policies and actions usually are on the wrong side of being racially unbiased. Guys like Trent Lott occasionally slip up and the truth comes out. The racists know which party shares their "values".
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:26 AM
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9. It's more fundamentally belief in a caste system

and they tend to make shit up to 'justify' it.
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:47 PM
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28. They use the racism to promote the caste system. Right? n/t
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:29 AM
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10. All my right-wing co workers are racists. Yesterday one was
reading the paper about this black guy on trial for murder. He went on and on about how the black race sucks...
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:41 AM
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14. Racism & Classism
The two main tenets of republicans. Country clubbing gang bangers.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:53 PM
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20. Agree. Both are a necessary part of elitism. n/t
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:43 AM
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16. Ira Katznelson on Book TV right now saying....
Modern racial inequality in America grew from government policies enacted during the 1930s and 1940s intended to impede the socioeconomic progression of African-Americans.

So writes author and Columbia University political science professor Ira Katznelson in his new book, "When Affirmative Action Was White: An Untold History of Racial Inequality in Twentieth-Century America." The book was the subject of a panel discussion featuring University of Pennsylvania professor Thomas Sugrue, author of "W.E.B. DuBois, Race, and the City: The Philadelphia Negro and Its Legacy"; Columbia University professor Manning Marable, author of "The Great Wells of Democracy: The Meaning of Race in American Life"; and Columbia University professor Sudhir Venkatesh, author of "American Project: The Rise and Fall of a Modern Ghetto." The panelists discuss how veterans benefits and New Deal programs benefitted whites more than African-Americans. Mr. Katznelson writes that the disparity which began during this era is a justification for the Affirmative Action policies of the modern era. Columbia University professor Marcellus Blount moderates the discussion.

Ira Katznelson is the author of several books including "City Trenches" and "Desolation and Enlightenment." He is a political science and history professor at Columbia University.


Knowledge is Power…
BOOK TV Schedule October 21-23
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:32 PM
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17. I say this because
Republicans are constantly using stereotypes of minorities. I honesty believe they think racism is a traditional value that should be kept.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:41 PM
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18. The GOP's Southern Strategy
was to actively recruit the old Jim Crow crowd and drive moderate, pro-civil rights Republicans out of the party.

You might recall Reagan kicked off his 1980 campaign by going to Oxford Mississippi, site of the murders of Chaney, Goodman and Schwerner, and making no mention of the slain civil rights workers--although he did mention "states rights" over and over again.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:50 PM
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19. And now they are using that strategy in the Red Midwest zone
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 02:50 PM by ultraist
Race wasn't as big of an issue during the Jim Crow days, in the Midwest, since that region had such a small Black population. But it's becoming more so now and the Religious right, (Christian coalition, Council of National Policy, etc) have deep roots in many heartland states like Kansas, Colorado, etc.

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Ally McLesbian Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:58 PM
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22. Yes
Except when it comes to useful right-wing puppet minorities like the Cubans, that is.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:58 PM
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23. Does the sun rise in the east?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:00 PM
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24. Yes
If Katrina didn't prove that, I don't know what could.
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:32 PM
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25. They want normalization
They want to make racism a normal part of society, because they don't believe it's wrong. Anybody who talks about "values" usually thinks segregation and Jim Crow was all right and slavery actually was helpful. These people seriously warped.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:02 AM
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29. No ideology or political party has a monopoly on racism.
I have seen the use of racial stereotypes from all sides.
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