Could an Edwards/Kucinich ticket win in 2008?

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[moobu2]

1. lol no

[smoogatz]

2. Win what?

They'd have a good shot on The Newlywed Game, if it was still around.

[melody]

30. lmao! Good one. n/t

[tallahasseedem]

3. Not a chance in hell.

Edwards got beaten up just as a VP candidate.

[Inspired]

15. WTF?

"Edwards got beaten up just as a VP candidate."

Excuse me???

[Mass]

4. ??? I doubt it

But I hope Kuchinich is going to run. If you want a candidate that can talk about poverty issues intelligently, he is the one.

[DaveColorado]

8. no

[hogwyld]

9. I like Kucinich

How about Kucinich/Obama? While Kucinish may not be the most "camera friendly" he is an intelligent, genuine person.

[serryjw]

62. I's be happy with Dept of Peace Secy

With the proliferation of WMD all over the globe there is not a better time for DK to bring some sanity to all this.

Namaste

[terrya]

5. That ticket would have the proverbial snowball's chance in hell of winning

Absolutely no.

[Kahuna]

6. No.

nt

[Fovea]

7. I'd vote for them!

I think Gore would be a better top of the ticket, but I am a big supporter of either/both Edwards or Kucinich.

[ultraist]

13. I'd vote for them too!

Altho, I don't see Kuchinich doing well on a nat'l ticket. He didn't do too well in the primaries, as Edwards did.

[Inspired]

21. Me too!

He didn't do very well at all.....but I totally agree with his politics. I've always considered myself a Kuchinich Democrat who supports John Edwards. Having them both on the ticket would be great.

[GreenPartyVoter]

57. Count me in

[Greyhound]

10. They'd be great administrators, but amerikans like their prez

to be white, tall, old, genetically fortunate. No ugly leaders for us, thank you. :eyes:

Oh yeah, and rich.

[SammyWinstonJack]

41. How does that explain Pinhead then?

He is ugly inside and out. Not genetically fortunate, but rich from stealing other peoples' monies. Geeze! I really hate that little worm. :grr:

[Greyhound]

53. He is better looking than Kucinich and much richer

his handlers use every means at their disposal to make him look tall, and he's old. I'm sure I could kick his ass and would give just about anything for the opportunity, but he's in good physical condition for an old alkie.
BTW let me just state for the record that nothing I've said should, in amy way be misconstrued as any kind of endorsement for that evil re-:puke: shithead.

[IndianaGreen]

11. Dennis supports marriage rights for LGBTs, Edwards opposes them

I would vote for Dennis, I won't for Edwards.

[ultraist]

14. Edwards does not oppose marriage for gays

He said it should up to the states. Marriage is, afterall, a state issue.

[terrya]

18. Uh, yes he does. He does oppose same-sex marriage.

Just like Kerry. Edwards made the point during the 2004 campaign.

And unless he's suddenly changed his mind, he still opposes same-sex marriage.

[ultraist]

22. Uh, no he doesn't.

On 2/24/04 Edwards said in response to President Bush's proposed Constitutional amendment, "I am against the president's constitutional amendment on gay marriage...I don't personally support gay marriage myself. My position has always been that it's for the states to decide."

Employment Non-Discrimination: Edwards supports a federal bill that would outlaw job discrimination based on sexual orientation.

Hate Crimes: Edwards supports expanding federal Hate Crimes Law to include sexual orientation.

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Same stand Kerry had. BOTH opposed the Constitutional amdmt banning gay marriage.

Good luck finding an electable candidate that is more pro gay rights than Kerry and Edwards.

[ray of light]

25. good points!

[mike_c]

12. I'd vote for Kucinich in a skinny minute...

...but I'd have to hold my nose to include Edwards.

[Pithy Cherub]

16. That wouldn't even make a footnote in a history book. n/t

[ultraist]

19. Would anybody/Kuchinich make history? Doubt it.

Kuchinich is not presidential material. Great guy, but wouldn't make it past the first few primaries.

[Pithy Cherub]

20. I'd vote for Kucinich before ever voting for Edwards.

[G_j]

33. "not presidential material"

Well that sure says a lot doesn't it? WTF is presidential material BTW? Not tall enough fer ya?

:puke:

[ultraist]

43. Did I mention physical characteristics?

I don't think I did. Kuchinich's performance in the primaries make it glaringly obvious that he is not presidential material. He cannot win over enough suppport to appeal to the broad masses.

I like Kuchinich, a lot, but it's unrealistic to think he could win the presidency.

[MarsThe Cat]

29. not even for historic losses?

i think that they could EASILY outdo Mondale/Ferraro.

[Digit]

17. Rather see an Edwards/Boxer ticket n/t

[Marr]

23. Depends on whether or not the Republicans are stupid enough to run Rice.

Then I'd say Pac-Man could win the presidency.

[Quixote1818]

51. I am thinking anyone who is from the Bush inner circle won't have a

chance in hell. Republicans will need to put up someone with basically zero ties to Bush.

[saltpoint]

24. If that's the ticket on the ballot in '08 it has my vote.

I don't see Kucinich on the national ticket because his clarity and courage are too difficult to translate to red voters. But we need him in Congress as a major force for genuine public service. Ohioans could do much worse in elected representatives, and have, often.

Edwards? He'll be the next president.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

26. I'd be very disappointed if Dennis ran with a DLC'r like Edwards.

However, I would vote for a Kucinich/Edwards ticket, but not the reverse.

[Kralizec]

27. It should but perhaps it wouldn't, just another sign of what bad

shape the Democratic Party, and America, is in.

Peace.

[MarsThe Cat]

28. maybe...

if a bird flu pandemic wipes out 85% of the population, and affects republicans a couple hundred times worse than Democrats.

if that happens, AND then nobody else runs against them in the general election...

given THOSE circumstances, i think that they'd have at least a 50-50 chance.

[TriMetFan]

31. I think they could win.

My reason is that once the chips start falling and Bush and his merry thugs start getting put behind bars in the next 18 months the people of this Nation will be running from the neo-con re-pukes like they have the bird flue.

[Neil Lisst]

32. No.

I can't imagine a single state they could carry.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

34. Edwards' "ambulance chasing"

is hard to shake. I know, I know. But that is the spin they will put on it.

I don't think that ticket could beat some that I have heard proposed on the Republican end.

[ultraist]

42. Corporate accountability is hard to shake?

Because that's what Edwards work as a trial attorney was, holding big corps accountable to injured clients.

[TallahasseeGrannie]

44. You're preaching to the choir

I don't think he's an ambulance chaser but a lot of anti-lawyer types do.

It is a field that comes ready made with a whole lot of people who hate you. In my experience if you start off with that kind of baggage you are doomed before you begin.

[Frances]

35. No

I don't have any problem with Kucinich running in the primaries again. But I don't think Kucinich can win the Dem primary, let alone a general election.

I do like Kucinich, but he would not carry a single state in a general election.

[slybacon9]

36. Screw Edwards. Put Obama on there with Dennis. or anyone....

I have said this from the beginning, but especially now after Katrina with AfAm approval at 2%!!!. He is the golden child. VP or P.

I love Dennis to death. He is who would be president if we weren't the country we are. What a wonderful world it would be... but alas...

He'd have a better chance with Obama though behind him.

[TroubleMan]

47. How about an Obama/McKinney ticket?

Any combination with McKinney or Kucinich would be alright for me.

[serryjw]

63. Boxer/McKinney

I quit my job and campaign for one year

[helderheid]

37. I wish

[nadinbrzezinski]

38. If the media gave them any access

look in the midst of a conversation with one person who personifies what the matter with Kansas

And you know what he has no clue who Denis is...

[helderheid]

40. that was half the problem

the other half was the micro-managing. Dennis would have to give up control of his campaign for it to go anywhere.

[nadinbrzezinski]

46. There is another detail here

he needs to master the 30 second culture ... I am not sayin he has no problems but the fact that I am talking to soembody who expemplifies the What is the Matter with Kanasa and has no clue who DK is... there is a problem.. for god sakes he said that next year the elections were local

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

just the midterms, but hey what am I talking about, and he is not interesetd in politics and still drinking the Sadam 9.11 link.. gave him the PNAC link and told him GO READ the damn white paper!

[helderheid]

48. wait - are you saying HE thinks Saddam and 9.11 are connected and doesn't

know about PNAC? I may be misunderstanding you but he was the one making the point that Saddam had nada to do with 9.11 and actually mentioned PNAC in the debates. Am I confused? I am generally so forgive me if I've read what you wrote incorrectly.

[nadinbrzezinski]

52. not talking about DK, talking about this guy

he still thinks Sadam was involved on 9.11, and has not even heard of PNAC, so I gave him both barrels....

But this is what is the matter with kansas... how do you reach that voter?

[helderheid]

55. good point

I guess you avoid those subjects and talk about what they DO understand - healthcare, outsourcing our jobs, the economy and privacy.

[realFedUp]

39. No...nt

[TroubleMan]

45. Hell yes.....Kucinich can win

And here's a great big "I told you so."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=443058

Can we PLEASE stop running the "repug-lite" candidates, so most voters can tell the difference between the two candidates?

[helderheid]

49. Remember the Move On primaries? Kucinich came in 2nd after only 4 months

in the race.

[LWolf]

56. I remember that thread.

And here's a great big thank you for the reminder.

I'm with you on this one.

:yourock: :thumbsup:

[helderheid]

66. thanks -- I voted in that poll for the first person I'd ever voted for

and thought he had a chance.

This was my introduction to politics

[Quixote1818]

50. I think Edwards could win with just about anyone on the ticket

I would love that ticket but it's probably a risky choice. Their are several Democratic candidates who would be hard to beat including Edwards, Wes Clark and while I don't care for him that much Biden would be hard for Republicans to beat.

[mb7588a]

54. Feingold/Richardson... Feingold/Clark

Feingold/Clark would be great.. the All-Rhodes-Scholar Team!

[ThomWV]

58. Either Of Them Is A Ticket Killer

And in combination they are the super nova of Democratic Party meltdown. The only thing that would be worse would be Hillary.

[LWolf]

67. It's a shame

that Dennis Kucinich, who has worked so hard for, and been so faithful to, the Democratic Party gets so little respect from his own party for the work he has done, and for the courage and integrity he has shown.

It says a lot that Dennis gets more respect outside his own party than he does from within. I think that is the red flag pointing to meltdown; that the Party doesn't support their brightest and best.

[helderheid]

59. kick as this has been an interesting conversation

[lovuian]

60. Its a better ticket than Clinton or Kerry or Biden!!!

Both men are very great guys!!!

:bounce:

I think a Democratic ticket needs to look at a Anti War candidate!!!

[WA98296]

61. Too soft and cuddly

[hiaasenrocks]

64. Not just "no" but "F NO" they wouldn't win.

That's a losing ticket if there ever was one.

There are many more qualified and electable Democrats. Let's do this right.

[helderheid]

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