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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:42 PM
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A Message to DU from Ambassador Joseph Wilson
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 02:44 PM by WilliamPitt
I've been corresponding with Mr. Wilson over the last several days, just to keep tabs on things. I mentioned in my last email that a lot of people are pulling for him and Valerie, especially at DU. He wrote back:

"All the outpouring of support has been of great comfort to us these past two years of nonstop attacks. The stakes are enormous. This is all about whether our government can take us to war on lies without any fear of being held to account, and whether our democracy can survive the coalition of fascist forces that have seized control of the levers of power.

We are bracing for another round of attacks from the RNC. I understand that their talking points have been updated. Rapid response from you, The Democratic Underground and others will be needed and I know they and you are up to the task and I thank everybody in advance for all of your good work now and over the last years. Remember, to paraprhase Dick Cheney (no, not the "Fuck off" statement to Senator Leahy), they are in the "last throes" of desperation.

Take care and we will talk soon. Joe"
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:44 PM
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1. Thanks Will!
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 03:10 PM by cat_girl25
And thanks for plugging for DU! Any chance you could correspond with The Fitz?:)
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:45 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Never met him
so I doubt it. But it'd be nice. :)
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:20 AM
Response to Reply #3
198. If you do happen to correspond with Fitz -
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 11:00 AM by Stephanie
Give him my number!

:loveya:

xx
S
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cantstandbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:04 PM
Response to Reply #1
91. I second that "Thanks Will" and let's 'rapid response' the hell out of
the oppostion. We should have teams formed for each major cable talking head show. And as soon as we hear an unchallenged lie we should begin a flash of e-mails and calls into the program where the offense took place. As soon as it is done we should report back here to some talley board on the lie, who said it, and who let it go unchallenged, and what the DUer did or said to counter the lie. Once we have a weekly list documented post on the front page of DU and send it off to media matters and justicefornone.com.

Anyone know if it is possible to setaside a thread for this?
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:29 PM
Response to Reply #91
102. This is an excellent idea, and Yes DU did it before, during the post
debate online voting polls. It was wonderfully organized, with a major thread to all M$M sites, including newspapers for LTTE's, etc. We could easily do this with response to RW 'talking points' and our 'anti-talking points.' We would need a separate temporary extra forum category (separate from LBN, GD, GD-Politics, etc) and the media page could be listed as it was pre-election, as a Skinner thread at the top of every main page.

BTW, I noticed a DU thread here yesterday (but lost it before I had time to read it) that headlined with something like 'We need to attack RW 'talking points' more effectively...' Wish I could provide the link.
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hiabrill Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:15 PM
Response to Reply #102
112. 'rapid response' is the key.....
....to counter and attack *'s BS and lies....

Only DU can do it..... I hope Skinner is supportive of your suggestion.


Thanks for sharing that E-mail with us..... :)



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rox63 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:30 PM
Response to Reply #102
148. Sounds like a job for
The DU Activist Crew!
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 09:55 AM
Response to Reply #148
196. This crew member is ready for countering the fascists!
:patriot: Pachamama reporting for duty!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #148
207. You know, to be perfectly honest, as much time as I spend at DU, I've
wanted to, but have never checked out the DU Activist crew! If they could get it started, with Skinner et al approval, that would be great! But I still think that much greater participation would occur if it was made a separate main forum, as was done in the post-debate online voting polls. That was DU organization par excellence! (and BTW, it was the reason I've been hanging around DU ever since! This is a great site.)
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:43 PM
Response to Reply #91
135. It's Time!
No more "putting-off." Time to email-call them out w/the truth!
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:45 PM
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2. President Joseph Wilson sounds good, doesn't it? n/t
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #2
44. I'd settle for Ambassador Joseph Wilson...
US Ambassador to the United Nations. Ambassador-at-large has a nice ring to it, too. ;)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:22 PM
Response to Reply #44
57. OH yes!
That would be nice and Fitzgerald can be on the Scotus!
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #57
75. I think Fitzgerald's talents might be better utilized...
in the position of Attorney General. He appears to posses the skills and temperament needed to do the job, plus we could use a big dose of dignity and ethics over there at the moment. Besides, Fitz is young and ambitious and could be appointed to the Scotus in a decade, or so, and still have a long run on the bench.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:26 PM
Response to Reply #75
213. Absolutely.
Regardless of the outcome of the Plame matter, Fitz has run a very tight, professional ship. I'm am very impressed by his handling of this case. The very lack of information in either direction is a good sign that he's doing his job well and taking it as seriously as it ought to be taken.

I second the nomination. :)
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JanusAscending Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #57
87. I'll "second" those nominations!!!
The more I read about the man, the more I admire him. Yep! Wilson takes boltons job, and Fitz is appointed to SCOTUS! ( although, Attny, Gen. sounds good too!) DC
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mirandapriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #44
70. Now HE would be a good UN ambassador! nt
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:08 PM
Response to Reply #70
142. I concur!
and at the risk of sounding redundant,

Thank YOU Mr. Wilson!
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:15 AM
Response to Reply #142
202. I agree too! I've been following this case with a friend since the
beginning ...can't believe how long it's taken to deal with it but the tree is bearing fruit!!
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Fiendish Thingy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:45 PM
Response to Reply #44
159. Or how 'bout Secretary of State Wilson
and Attorney General Fitzgerald
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 11:57 PM
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Zan_of_Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #159
182. Don't forget Ann Wright.
She is a former diplomat and former pilot and military officer who resigned rather than work for the current government as it determined to go to war against Iraq.

She was camp coordinator for Cindy Sheehan and Camp Casey, and those who were fortunate enough to meet her or hear her speak were MOST impressed with her forthrightness, diplomacy, guts, persistence, and everything else we want and deserve in our leaders.

Some are even talking her up for President.
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ohio_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:46 PM
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4. Thanks for posting that Will
Those neocon bastards went after the man's wife. I'll never forget it.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:46 PM
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5. Thanks Will! And DU definitely has The Wilsons' six covered!
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 02:46 PM by Pithy Cherub
:patriot:

Primed and ready!
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:47 PM
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6. Tell Mr Wilson t that am thinking of him and sending out best wishes
His a true American not like the fraud in the whiewash house.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:48 PM
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7. Awesome!
Thank you for posting this. The Wilson's are the greatest. Real American heroes.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:48 PM
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8. Thank you, Will. Glad to know we're helping to make a difference.
:patriot:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:49 PM
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9. Locked and loaded
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:50 PM
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10. Nice. Thanks for posting.
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:50 PM
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11. Wow. This is one of those "proud to be a DUer" moments
My thanks to Amb. Wilson for being a true American hero.

The least we can do is to get his back.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:50 PM
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12. We do have the backs of truth-tellers....nt
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #12
22. .
Shoulder to Shoulder :hug:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:50 PM
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13. "The last throes of desperation."
Thanks for posting that, Will, and Ambassador, we're pulling for you.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:08 PM
Response to Reply #13
41. that has such a snazzy ring to it
:D
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:52 PM
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14. Why can't our Democratic 'leaders' speak plainly and speak the truth?
What a breath of fresh air Wilson is.


This is all about whether our government can take us to war on lies without any fear of being held to account, and whether our democracy can survive the coalition of fascist forces that have seized control of the levers of power.


There it is. One sentence that simply sums up what has happened, and what the stakes are.

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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #14
37. They will as soon as it's safe
to come out of their hidey holes. John Conyers and a few others have been an exeption, but it's been a damn poor showing while us grunts have been risking our asses to tell the King that "he has no clothes."

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EuroObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:18 PM
Response to Reply #14
115. Right, who can get that quote into the big media first?
The Guardian would maybe be a place to try, with a piece about what DU is all about...
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:52 PM
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15. ya ever think that the left
would actually back a cia agent? been around since the 60`s and i never thought i`d see the day,i guess politics do make strange bed fellows.
thanks will for telling them we are standing beside them.
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soleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:52 PM
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Wow, it really just hit me
We're all involved in this thing
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:54 PM
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19. .
:hug: :patriot:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:08 PM
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40. Yes, yes we are
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cally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:59 PM
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162. Me, too.
It just hit me with that note, also. We're expected to help and are needed. We've spent so many years feeling like we are lone voices in the wilderness but now we are being heard. :-)

Thanks Will for mentioning DU to Amb. Wilson. They are American heroes.

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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:09 PM
Response to Reply #162
165. Hi cally
ready for the special election ?
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peace frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:52 PM
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16. The Wilsons may yet have their retribution...
we'll know soon. Best wishes to them both from all of us at DU!
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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:53 PM
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17. thanks for the message. Forget the last throes, what gets me
mad is that when they told American's that weapons were in Iraq they put this country in fear, yet the fact that Valerie was working on weapons of mass destruction, the very reason for the war on terrorism, no one's afraid and no one is demanding to find out who leaked her identity. Makes no sense
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:53 PM
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18. Shoulder to Shoulder In Defense Of The Country I Love
:patriot: Thanks for posting and letting he
and Valerie know how we are with them every
step of the way . :hug:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:54 PM
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20. Are we having fun yet?
An old saying from the 'Farm'.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:54 PM
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21. THANKS ALOT WILL...and a very hearty thank you to my hero's
AMBASSADOR JOSEPH WILSON and Mrs. Valerie Wilson/Plame

i salute them and send my utmost respect , and gratitude ..for their honesty, and their fight for truth at a very high price to their family..

i respect no one more in my country!!

:patriot:
they are my hope ....for my nation!

fly
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:55 PM
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23. kicking for RAPID response
:kick:

NGU.


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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:55 PM
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24. "they are in the "last throes" of desperation"
Oh, how sweet it is.
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checks-n-balances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:29 PM
Response to Reply #24
147. Anyone who would lie their way into an unnecessary & tragic war
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 08:35 PM by checks-n-balances
is capable of doing ANYTHING that is evil. We should all be on our watch for bushco to stage who-knows-what event(s) to distract the public's attention from the indictments that should be coming forth in less than a week...

My utmost respect goes to the Wilsons - their courage and steadfastness has already helped preserve what we have left of our democracy. Lots of bright & courageous folk are here at DU, too. And thanks Will, for keeping us informed and motivated to nip those talking points/lies in the bud!!!

Edited for typos, as usual
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:55 PM
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25. We have our work cut out for us
and we can and will do it. We have before.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:52 PM
Response to Reply #25
73. Yes we do
We can do it :patriot:
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joanski0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:55 PM
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26. Thanks Will.
This note from Amb. Wilson made me feel good. Now there's a real man!
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #26
138. And a "Real" American, at that!
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 07:49 PM by AuntiBush
Ambassador Wilson & his wife, Mrs. Valerie Plame, along with the Will Pitt's laying all on the line for us are shining beacons of "hope" for all of us.

Peace & May Democracy Reign... :patriot:

Never thought I'd see the day... never, but here we are.
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zippy890 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:55 PM
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27. Thats great that he knows how we support him
Thanks for expressing our support to him.

But really, what can we do at this juncture?

Tweety laughed out loud on his show last night when his producer handed him the RNC talking point about Joe Wilson 'smoking pot'. The MSM is not giving the anti-Wilson smear any credit at this point



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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:56 PM
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28. It takes courage to speak out
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 03:00 PM by MagickMuffin
and I applaud the Wilson's for standing up to power. Speaking Truth to Power is never easy, and it takes passion along with "balls" to yell if the elephant is stomping on our demockracy.

Thank you Joe for informing us of the enormous lie that was perpetrated on our country and the world. Everything they have told us has been based on lies upon lies upon lies. They were planning this invasion during the Clinton presidency, and they immediately began that goal after the Supreme Court (S)elected Bush for the country.

I knew the country would be in danger if the Supreme Court (S)elected Bush, there is a lot of "history/baggage" within the Bush Dynasty.

Thank also goes out to Will, we all appreciate all you do.
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:57 PM
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29. I'm sure the new talking points
will be doozies since they are getting desperate. Thanks for posting Ambassador Wilson's e-mail.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #29
49. Nay, they've got nothing but gas at this point
The latest one is so lame. Oh yeah, Joe smoked pot in the 60's. So? So did most everyone else for that matter. Even our fearless leader Bush admits to doing worse for a lot longer.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:04 AM
Response to Reply #49
177. Oh.My.God.Pot Smoking?In the 60's?
hey, let me have a hit of that....
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newspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:19 AM
Response to Reply #177
180. yeah, and what Wilson did back then
cannot compare with Bushie---oh, can't influence the kiddies, so I'm not gonna answer that question. someone's been sniffing the coke and it ain't Wilson.

Wilson for Ambassador of the UN------RIGHT ON!!!!!
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Pachamama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #49
209. Isn't the FBI now allowing recruits a pass on pot smoking?
:eyes:

I mean, if the safety of our country is considered safe in the hands of agents who have smoked pot, why wouldn't it be ok for Amb. Wilson who has how many years of a proven track record of service to this country?

They should be worried about the dry-drunk cokehead sociopath running our country if they are worried about prior drug use by an official in gov't...
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:57 PM
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30. That's a great bit of news.
Thanks for sharing Will.


Peace
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 02:59 PM
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31. Hope Cheney is the one Fitzgerald "First Throws" into JAIL
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 03:00 PM by ClayZ

Merry Fitzmas!:kick:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:00 PM
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32. Thanks. The support works both ways.
I just can't believe these assholes never give up their evil stance. He's right. They are going to fight to the end.

Good luck. May the truth be told.

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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:00 PM
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33. Thanks for Posting Ambassador Joseph Wilson's call to action - I'll be
emailing and I am sure much of DU will be doing so also.

:toast:
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:01 PM
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34. K & R!
Good going Will!

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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:04 PM
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35. VERY cool -- thanks, Will!
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:04 PM
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36. If their updated talking points are the ones mentioned on Hardball
... last night. Tell Mr. Wilson not to be overly worried. Keeping his guard up is good, but I do believe they're off their game right now.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:05 PM
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38. We have your back Joe Wilson!!
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:06 PM
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39. Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame - Profiles in Courage 21st century
I read Profiles in Courage, by JFK, when I was ten years old.

We've had a dearth of courage the past few years, and that is why the stands of Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame have been so important, not just to us as the opposition party, but to the country.

Here's to modern Profiles in Courage.


Hu's on first?
http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst/
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:10 PM
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42. Thanks, Will, and a special thank you to Mr. Wilson for standing
up for TRUTH!

Both of you are true Patriots, and I salute both of you!

:patriot:
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:10 PM
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43. Thanks, Will
I'm glad you've been corresponding with him. I stand behind him and Valerie and fully support them. I hope they plan to take this wherever it may lead until justice is done for them and for the American people -- no matter what result comes from Fitzgerald's investigation and the grand jury. We need more people like him and Valerie who stand for what is right. If there's anything we can do, please let us know.

This coming week should prove to be very eventful, but I know we have a long, long way to go.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:11 PM
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45. Will, if you speak to him could you fwd him my dear valerie
letter? If you think they'd take it the right way, that is.

It's at lastmidnight.blogspot.com -- just I think the woman whose name keeps getting thrown around like a football deserves to know we appreciate it and we appreciate her very long and important service to our country... thanks.
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madaboutharry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:11 PM
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46. This really struck me:
..."the coalition of fascist forces that have seized the levers of power."

This entire chapter in American history is evidence of how easily corruption takes hold and how difficult it is for some to let go of power. There will be heros who will emerge from this mess, good men and women who will bring our democracy back from the edge of the cliff. Patrick Fitzgerald will probably be one of them. And George Bush and his cabal will be scorned and remembered as the fascists that they are and always have been.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:08 PM
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93. "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty"
Here's to you, Ambassador and Mrs. Wilson. :patriot:
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:53 AM
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190. Second
:patriot:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:17 PM
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114. Forever and ever
may the name bush be synynomus with benedict
arnold .
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:11 PM
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47. thanks Will for all of your work..and for letting Amb. Wilson know how man
of us truly respect and honor the truth he has told regarding this ugly war and disgusting administration
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:12 PM
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48. Thank you!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:12 PM
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50. Thanks to Will & The Wilsons...
You have more supporters out here than you'll ever know!

I agree that the RW talking points are getting more transparent and more desparate.

Watch for these in the days to come:

Joe Wilson once gained entry to the NYC subway system with a slug instead of a duly authorized token.

Valerie Plame-Wilson is now known to have removed several 'Do Not Remove' tags from a matress and two pillows.

It has now been confirmed that the Wilsons NEVER clapped for Tinkerbell during showings of Peter Pan.

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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:16 PM
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51. Thanks for the message from a great American.
Now if we can get the " liberal media " to quit lying about what the Amb. has said .... maybe my blood pressure would level off.

:patriot:
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:17 PM
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52. Thank You Amb. Wilson...Our Hardest Work Is Ahead
These last two years have been both frustrating and enlightening. Many here learned about Ambassador Wilson and his plight thanks to folks like Will and others here who saw this smearing and corruption for what it was from the outset.

But should we not expect this here on DU? This isn't the first and the last time many of us here can or will say "I told ya so"...and how many of the things that were "speculated" or "prophisized" here have turned out to be truth. If anything, it's the synergy of this place that has led to frustration as so many of us were outraged by what we were learning and doing so way ahead of everyone else. It is true...rumors work themselves around the world, while the truth is putting its pants on.

The rough days are surely ahead as this regime and the Repugnican party won't go easily. There'll be lots of talking points, lies, distortions, distractions and other games to either test our resolve, knock us off focus or deflect from their accountability. We must stand firm and never forget. If the Wilsons are vindicated, that will be just the start of restoring dignity to this country...the rest will be up to us in being a source for truth and strength and to turn this into electoral gold and really start on the hard road back.

Peace...
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:19 PM
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53. thanks, William
I sometimes wonder if they know a lot of us "average folk" really do follow what's going on, understand it, and wish them well.

He is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO correct about the "last throes"; they are behaving like cornered rats now.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:22 PM
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56. Rats always abandon a sinking ship ...
... and no rat swims away faster than a REPUBLICAN RAT!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:44 PM
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105. But, can rove even
swim? Welcome to DU, NancyGreggs!
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:09 PM
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211. Thanks for the Welcome!!!
As for the question about Rove being able to swim ... hhmmm.
I spoke about RATS being able to swim; I'm not so sure that PIGS can!
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:21 PM
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54. Ambassador Wilson personifies the phrase "speaking truth to power"
I feel proud to be in a small way associated with his cause through my membership at DU. Joe Wilson is an American hero, and history will see him as such. :patriot:
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:45 PM
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69. ...with clarity, personal dignity and professional respect for
working through the channels of government (see DSM hearing testimony) even when it is stretched and abused beyond the breaking point.

He is a true statesman-- not only a hero, but an example, to all of us.

:patriot:
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:22 PM
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55. Thanks for the messge
:) Stay strong Mr. Wilson!
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:27 PM
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58. Wow...
You know Wilson! Tell him that I'm thinking of him & his wife and hope that they come out of this victorious. And I *know* that those neocon jerks are going to slam them hard, but we know who the *real* criminals are! So hang in there, Amb. Wilson & Valerie!:thumbsup:

Tammy
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:31 PM
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59. And thanks to Joe and Valerie for stepping forward into the shitstorm they
knew was coming from the rightwing attack machine. The attacks on them will be relentless after the indictments, and it will go on for years. Thank you for your courage.

Right after The Politics of Truth came out, I saw Joe speak at a Barnes & Noble and had him autograph my copy of the book. When I got home I showed it to my kids and told them it will take a few years, but what happened to Joe and his wife will eventually lead to the resignation of bush and cheney.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:04 PM
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108. Milkyway, I 'got goosebumps' reading this! History indeed is in the
making, and your children will treasure your predictions, the autographed book, and eventually their understanding of the love of true freedom and courage (beautiful words, among many others that this evil administration has completely perverted.)
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:20 PM
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116. This Nation owes a debt of grattitude to them both
I must thank them for having faith
in Americans, to step forward into
the "shitstorm".
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:32 PM
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60. Beautiful.
Thank you for sharing this with us. It is hard for us to appreciate the stress that this creates for a family. It takes a really brave person to do battle with the beast.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:33 PM
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61. I like that term, fascist forces, for if the shoe fits, let's make 'em
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 03:37 PM by indepat
wear it.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:21 PM
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81. "A coalition of fascist forces."
That's a classy way of saying "BFEE."
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:12 PM
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111. And we expect no less
from Joe. What a gentleman. Loved the message.

Thanks Will!

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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:35 PM
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62. Thank you Will for that
Thanks for letting him know we care.
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emald Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:35 PM
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63. thank you Mr. Wilson and Ms. Plame
I'm encouraged by your actions and courage. Please speak out loudly and often for those of us with no voice. Our government has been stolen. We need leaders. Thank you for being the voice.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:37 PM
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64. Please pass our thanks and respect back to him.
I can only imagine the hell this man and wife have been through because of their service to our country.



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Liberal In Texas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:38 PM
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65. Thanks for posting. The Wilson's are patriots in the true sense of the
word, unlike the paper phonies populating the repuke party.

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slybacon9 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:41 PM
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66. kick ass.
We love you.
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MagickMuffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:42 PM
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67. A follow up
I too have suffered at the hands of Rove. He damaged our families reputation. And because of that I am ashamed to speak out, not that he damaged me directly, but someone in the family.

He will get what he deserves in the long run.

That's why I'm starting a Changing Karma Campaign. It is up to us to start changing all the negative Karma and turn it back into positive Karma. The balance is now ready to swing back to center or better yet the left.
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:44 PM
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68. Thanks, Amb. Wilson!
Thanks for surfing DU, Ambassador Wilson!

I take what happened to your wife personally, because I, too, work in the Intelligence Community. What happened to her could have been done to any one of us. Please let her know that she has a lot more support in the Community than the media lets on.

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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:48 PM
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71. please give my best regards to Mr. Wilson and Ms. Plame....
They are American heros. We need more like them.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:51 PM
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72. Thank you Will for letting Ambassador Wilson know about our support
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 03:52 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
and conveying his message to us! The Wilson's are Valiant Heros in my book, and they have my support.

I honestly believe that no matter how many talking points the RW spews, they have no affect what so ever, as they mean absolutely Nothing except those who parrot those talking points are making total fools out of themselves (and that is always good).

The wheels of Justics are in motion and the Truth Will Out.

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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 03:59 PM
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74. Thank you, Will.
I remember years ago after former Labor Secretary Ray Donovan was cleared of all the phony charges against him, he held a press conference and asked: "Where do I go to get my good name back?"

I hope the Ambassador and his wife won't have to ask the same question when all is said and done. Somehow, I think the right people know that what they've been saying all along is the truth. And it will out.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:06 PM
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76. We've got your back, Joe and Valerie.
Truth is our most powerful weapon.

Peace.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:10 PM
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77. What Fooj Said !!!
Thanks Will!

:bounce::kick::bounce:
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:12 PM
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78. Thanks for posting this, Will.
And please thank the Wilsons for their long and difficult service to our country. They are true patriots and heroes...and so are you!!!
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:14 PM
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79. Latest point, "No one cares" sounds odd on programs devoted to Plame--
I am weaiting for Tweety or someone else to say "That is strange, my producer keeps telling me we have to cover this story, because our ratings go up every time we do, and yet you say no one outside the beltway cares."
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:20 PM
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80. Ominous words there, about the stakes.
Whenever I picture the "last throes of desperation", I think of a badger my two dogs cornered when I was a kid...flailing claws and razor-sharp teeth; lightning-fast moves, to confuse and prevent my boys any chance of getting a grip; a piercing snarl that reverberated off the trees, turning the normally peaceful woods into an amplifier of that growl; a totally gutted animal, entrails separated from the body, locked in a death-grip that continued way past any heartbeat.

That is the sort of creature we are facing. Our struggle will just begin to get hard, if and when any indictments are actually handed down. Ambassador Wilson and Ms. Wilson-Plame will go down in history as the ones who sparked that struggle, who stood up to such corruption in power and if the Beast is brought down, the entire World will thank them!

I thank them now, for trying!

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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:44 PM
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85. Thank you, Will.
Please copy off the support here and send it to Mr. Wilson. It may be a small comfort to him and his wife but maybe it will add a bit.
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stevedeshazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:29 PM
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82. Sweet.
If you're reading this Joe, for what it's worth, a lot of us are definitely in your camp, because we DO understand the stakes.

We're ready for the attacks, you can always count on Democratic Underground's members to seek and distribute the truth wherever we find it.

Good luck and God speed.
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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:29 PM
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83. Anti-talking points from Media Matters
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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:34 AM
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203. Thanks for the link
It's a good handy guide.
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:35 PM
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84. "The stakes are enormous", indeed.
Ambassador Wilson, and patriot Valerie Plame Wilson, we DO have your backs.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:47 PM
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86. Good prep info from Media Matters:
As we noted last week, increased media coverage of the investigation sparked by the unauthorized disclosure of Valerie Plame's status as a CIA operative has been accompanied by widespread repetition of long-ago debunked misinformation. Media reports are filled with claims that Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation is -- or should be -- focused solely on potential violations of the Intelligence Identities Protection Act; that disclosure of Plame's employment by the CIA wasn't a crime because it was part of an effort to correct allegedly false claims made by her husband; that Plame couldn't have been outed because everyone already knew she worked for the CIA; that the outing wasn't a crime because her name wasn't used.

None of these things are true, of course, but they are constantly repeated in the media.

Meanwhile, efforts to downplay the seriousness of the investigation continue. A Washington Post editorial went so far as to describe "the accounts given by reporters about their conversations with administration officials" this way:

What has been depicted is an administration effort to refute the allegations of a critic (some of which did in fact prove to be untrue) and to undermine his credibility, including by suggesting that nepotism rather than qualifications led to his selection. If such conversations are deemed a crime, journalism and the public will be the losers.

Of course, there's one little detail the Post left out: those efforts to "undermine his credibility" included revealing that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA, an apparently classified piece of information, the disclosure of which may have damaged U.S. national security efforts. After cleverly omitting mention of evidence of a potential crime, the Post concludes that there is none.

more...

http://mediamatters.org/items/200510210011

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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:44 AM
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Shame, shame, shame, shame, SHAME on the Washington Post!
I just caught up with this thread and I had to say it. We've spent a lot of time lately at DU excoriating the New York Times for the fishwrap that it has become, in its disgraceful coverage of the Bush Cartel's war and the traitorous skulduggery of its star reporter Judith Miller, but the Washington Post also deserves to go down in history as the NYT's equally derelict and decrepit partner in the collapse of American journalism.

This editorial could have come straight from Karl Rove's desk--it is that twisted. It is utterly lacking in critical thought, and in any understanding of the foundations of our government--the crucial balances that must be maintained in order to avoid tyranny, especially the balance between authority and dissent, and between government and the press.

I cannot help but think of the NYT's courageous publication of the Pentagon Papers, and the Washington Post's relentless investigation of the Watergate scandal, at a time when these newspapers were key guardians of our liberty, and vigilant monitors of out of control executive power. Now they are just warmongers and corporate shills, and have become completely unreliable.

It is all the more wonder that Joseph Wilson has been able to stand against this hurricane of disinformation, with the nation's two papers of record (past tense) piling it on, in favor of war, murder, torture, deceit, unparalleled financial corruption, and outright treason.

What an extraordinary man!
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:54 PM
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88. What a great inspiration for the coming battles. Go Joe!
Fight the fights, sir. We are behind you 100%


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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:55 PM
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89. Thank you, Will, for sharing that.
Mr. Wilson has the strength and integrity our country needs but has lately, for the most part, been lacking. Ms. Plame's work behind the scenes also show courage. I thank them both for their service - but particularly Joe Wilson, for having the courage to speak truth to power.

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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 04:56 PM
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90. Joe Wilson is a true patriot
He has already and will continue to personally suffer for speaking out; I am so grateful that he has the courage and conviction to stand up to the lies.
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tex-wyo-dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:05 PM
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92. I don't know what else to say but thanks, Mr. Wilson.
To me, and I'm sure many here at DU, you are a true hero and patriot in exhibiting the courage to take on this fascist cabal that holds power in Washington and standing up for what's right.

We've got your back...

Stay safe.

P.S. Thanks, Will, for forwarding this.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:09 PM
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94. Thanks, Will, for keeping him touch with how we everyday folks are
pulling for him and his family. :hug:
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:12 PM
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95. The latest talking points I've been hearing are:
"We're cleaning out the CIA."

"We're cleaning out the State Dept."

Let's see if those points continue...

Thanks for posting this. So many of us greatly admire Joe and his wife. They have devoted their lives to our country and are standing up for it and for truth.

Love the remark about the Cheney quote. Do his emails often contain such humor?
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:22 PM
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101. And we are cleaning out the White House! n/t
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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:18 PM
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96. Thanks, Will! We'll do whatever we can to help Ambassador Wilson
and his wife. They're true heroes in this fight.

I'm glad you let him know of our support, and I hope you'll send him a link to this thread, which is likely to become one of the longest ever on DU.
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KerryOn Donating Member (899 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:20 PM
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97. Thanks William....
Joe and Valerie are true American hero's. This will soon be history and the Wilson's will be remembered for eradicating an evil disease infested government.

We got their backs! I'm ready to march on Washington once again when ever necessary.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:21 PM
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98. Thanks Will, and "rapid response" is the least we can do for someone
who is fighting the wrongs that have been imposed onto this country and the people.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:21 PM
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99. Will, I'd like to have you give us
Rapid Action Que's when the time comes. We need a quarterback.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:22 PM
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100. Thanks for sharing this Will.
:hi:
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:30 PM
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103. How about mentioning that one of Us has made a film
a 2 DVD set called "Rove's War" that uses his testimony (that I flew from Hawaii to film) to REFUTE all the Republican talking points and let's him tell the TRUTH (while UNDER OATH at the Downing Street Minutes Hearing) about WHAT WENT DOWN, All of it..

That's 150 minutes of information, RAW MEAT, with Much of Mr Wilson's statements SHATTERING the myths created by the right wing and the MEDIA..

Even wrote a cover song (Randi Rhodes SANG IT TWICE on her show yesterday!) just FOR Him and his WIFE to eventually Hear to HONOR them, called "Secret Agent Plame"..

I'd like to send him and his wife a copy of my Work, the 2 DVD set of "Rove's War" and let them know that WE are behind him 100%.

Will you do that for me Will, or pass along some contact info? I'd appreciate it, it would save me time digging it up with other contacts, and I could mention all the good works you've done here to him as well at the same time.

I met him briefly, but I'm sure he'd remember me - we talked about how I was in New Hampshire when Novak attacked my pal, that we'd filed assault charges against Novak there, and that we wanted to get Novak into Discovery and then while under oath, ask him about some of the Plame Outing - mentioning to Joe that THAT is exactly what they'd done to President Clinton, and got what they wanted..

He thought that was an interesting idea, that using a Civil suit against Novak was probably not a bad way to go.. funny thing in now HE and VALERIE are talking about a Civil suit, tho I'm sure it wasn't my idea that spawned it, they are VERY intelligent and have all their bases covered, just a fun coincidence :)

Just another DUr doing his part, a year of research, lots of filming of Key events and months of editing.

Got a Comp Copy of the Film for you too Will if you PM me and Address..

Thanks for the post :)
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Gronk Groks Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:55 PM
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140. Ok Symbolman, where can I get a copy...
...to add to my ever growing "I Hate Shrub" collection.

To the Ambassador and his Wife,

Thank you for giving us the ammunition to take down the most fascist regime this country has ever had the mis-fortune to endure. We will support you however we can, to the best of our ability...

...and DU has some people with incredible abilities!

We will not fail...we can not afford to...
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:26 AM
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187. It's at our site
Takebackthemedia.com http://www.takebackthemedia.com - all the info's there, as well as the Song cover I did for the credits, called "Secret Agent Plame" which Randi Rhodes SANG TWICE yesterday, to many people's amazement, including me, I was on the floor it was SO funny, she's a hoot..

After a year of research I think I've got a good handle on this, and have made some connections in the film that are just now being made here and elsewhere (edited it for a few months, so figured out the Rome/Ledeen/Forger thang a long time ago..)..

It was great when I flew from Hawaii to DC to film the Conyers' DSM Hearing (for one reason I physically had to CHASE Rep Conyers down the halls in the underbelly of Congress because Pelosi's aid wouldn't let me in the Media filled room - the reason I flew there was because perhaps CSPAN 3 might cover it, and I wanted it FILMED for it's importance) - because I use the DSM Hearing as an Axis for the film, the Plame Outing and DSM are joined at the hip and PROVE each other IMHO..

Lots of good footage of Wilson laying it all out, and like I said, UNDER OATH in Congress..

He makes it very clear and I've used the parts of the media that were True, along with additions to make the Plame Outing comprehensible and above the SPIN, and MAN, are they SPINNING this one :)

SO have a look and see if you like what you see, there's a 12 minute preview there as well.. and thanks..

I better give Wilson a call, thought Will would save me a trip to the Rolodex, since he knows him so well, but I guess he's doing his Own Thing.. :)
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:46 AM
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189. Some of us need a land address. Cool site; fun song; great work
You flew back from Hawaii? Did you move there? The last time I donated I think your address was Carp.

Cheers,
Hekate
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 07:51 AM
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194. Thanks Hekate
we aim to please, we like to think that we basically initiated the beginning of the Flash political attack ad back in 2000, when American Stranger and I were "dueling" with Flash pieces on the DU and decided to join forces to create Takebackthemedia.com

Since then many others have sprung up like Bushflash, Fiore and others who do great work (we were buddies with Jib Jab when they started hitting them out of the ballpark, some of their earliest stuff was insanely wonderful - rapping Forefathers, etc, loved those guys)..

Then we got more politically active and spent the last few years travelling and making films - we haven't had the chance to sit down and SLAM Limbaugh and others for a while, but now that I've got this film out of the way I'm looking forward to doing more flash, some writing of my own (I've got a feature I dreamed up that I think will be a lot of fun), and kick the site back into high gear again..

I don't like the halfblog format we've got going so we'll be revamping the site and getting some real empowerment going..

Hopefully it will be like kicking a dead dog tho, I am dreaming of a White Fitzmas this year - thousands of sheets of papers from Indictments covering Washington DC :)

Appreciate your support - I PM'd you the snail Mail address - I don't want to revert to training if some freepers come knocking on my door wanting to play "trick or treat", they won't like the "treat" I have for them -

Researching this was a wonderful opportunity to get ahead of the curve on this, people are just now catching up (not guys like H2Oman of course) to WHO the players are in this outing.. but I've got most of it all in the film.

Good to hear from you, and another KICK to a fine work by a DU master..
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Gronk Groks Donating Member (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:03 PM
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230. keepping the link
.
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 02:27 PM
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214. Heard you on Randi Rhodes, symbolman. Made my day. I'm sure
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 02:28 PM by bleever
the Wilsons would appreciate seeing your work, including the DVDs of the DSM hearings you made.

:thumbsup:



ed: Because if you type :thumbup:, it doesn't convey the intended meaning. :)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:42 PM
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104. Thank you, Will, for
sharing this with us.

I've been thinking about the Wilsons for two years now and hoping this would get resolved with justice for them..it turns out to be even bigger than Americans outing a deeply undercover CIA agent. It seems as though Valerie was outed because they wanted to contiue to lie about wmd and nothing was to get in their way from bombing Iraq. And who knows what else went on in those vengeful minds' of the whigs.

We are so here for you, Joe and Valerie Wilson! :patriot: :patriot:
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 05:55 PM
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106. Thanks Will and Mr. Wilson too. I am here. nm
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:02 PM
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107. Here's a Valerie & Joe Ornament for the Fitzmas Tree
With thanks and appreciation to Ambassador Wilson and Ms. Plame:




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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:06 PM
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109. Thank You Mr. Wilson. You Are A True Patriot.
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:09 PM
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110. 101st Keyboarder reporting for duty.
Rigged for nitefighten.


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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:31 PM
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123. I think Mr. Wilson is telling us to write some letters to the editor
Lots of news, information, and misinformation is going to be in the media when Fitzgerald's results are made public. If you see something wrong in the media, write a quick note to whomever wrote it immediately.

I have written so many of these that I have lost count. I have received responses from a few media outlets that I contacted and they have changed their stories. At the least, I know I have enlightened whomever opened my email.

Further, it won't do anymore to just say "the media is controlled by the right wing". Well some of the media is RW, and some of them are not. It is your job to reach those who can be reached. In the time it takes you to get caught up on your favorite forum here, you can crank out a beauty. That's my plan.
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:46 PM
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137. I absolutely agree with what you've said!
And I do the same, all the time! If ratings is what fuels them, then it's my job to "rate" each and every shoddy piece I have to hear being foisted on the airwaves! They do read them, if constructive criticism is directed at specific points, both in erroneous stories and biased reporting or events that have been left out entirely to sway the viewers. Certain standards of journalism do still exist, they all know it, and this dastardly rule-breaking has gone on long enough! Not everyone has been totally cowed!
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 08:09 AM
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195. Another reason I created "Rove's War" since researching it for a year
I realised that so many people had NO CLUE, not even a basic grasp of what was happening, and being we were/are Takebackthemedia.com and our job is to OUT the media when they pull a fast one I thought, "Why not take the best parts of the media and what I've filmed and create a chronology that is easily understood?"

Mind you, it's not TOTALLY complete, because it would take 4 hours to list all the Players in this alone.. BUT, I've got a lot of pretty good parallel lines of Toadies that do intersect with of course the WHITE HOUSE..

More people are waking up, but at the same time, just like with my Downing Street Minutes DVD set, I've assembled some of the most important Historical clips for folks to keep after it's over, so you can even teach your kids later, etc..

I filmed the entire Downing Street Minutes as at that moment I thought that THIS was the Meeting that would eventually take down Bush. A lot of folks donated and got the set (now I'm seeing that CSPAN is charging $150 for the 2 DVD set of the Waxman Hearings) I think TBTM is doing a public Service at our site, as we've always done, without taking any corporate money or selling out.

If you want to think about selling out, have a look at Judas Miller :)

Joe Wilson is a hell of a man, Patriots like that are one in a million and it's been my pleasure to chat with him as well, tho I'm sorry I didn't have the time to bring up the DU, we were talking about the Civil case after the DSM Hearing..

Never seen a sharper dresser in Washington either, just a COOL guy, no ego, loves his country and his wife..
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:27 PM
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146. Type silent,
type deep. ;-)
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:16 PM
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113. Time to move
Maybe the last chance. In the streets T shirts, bumper stickers, and tell all.
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fearnobush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:26 PM
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117. Joe, We have your back.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:26 PM
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118. With every fibre......till the fascists are exposed.
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Shine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:26 PM
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119. Cool, thanx for sharing that, Will.
:thumbsup:
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Alizaryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:27 PM
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120. Thank you Will !
I am curious to know if he was hopeful? Does he agree with our confidence in Fitzgerald?
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IkeWarnedUs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:27 PM
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121. Absolute Patriots
Joseph Wilson and his wife Valerie Plame Wilson are the most pure level of "patriots" I can imagine. Their courage and determination in exposing the "coalition of fascist forces" is only the latest example of their devotion to our country.

GHW Bush called Joseph Wilson "truly inspiring" and "courageous" for sheltering more than 100 Americans at the US embassy in Baghdad while serving as chargé d'affaires in Iraq, even while Saddam Hussein threatened to execute anyone who refused to hand over foreigners. And while ambassadorships are often passed out as favors, at least to places like the Samoa or Liechtenstein, Joe Wilson served in Gabon and São Tomé and Príncipe. These two small nations are among the rare successful African democracies - not exactly token patronage positions. Then he helped direct Africa policy for the National Security Council for President Clinton.

While Mrs. Wilson (Valerie Plame) could be considered a patriot just for supporting her husband in his dedicated, sometimes dangerous work all around the globe, she has earned that distinction all on her own. Her work as a CIA covert operative is probably about the most difficult, dangerous and important there is to our national security. And she was working on weapons of mass distruction. The real ones - not the fabricated kind like the Bush administration deals in.

What is so remarkable about this family is that the vital work they were doing is largely invisible and thankless. They didn't seek glory and fame. In fact, the opposite is true. If the Bush administration didn't include the Niger yellow cake lie in their long list of lies, Joe Wilson wouldn't have written his article. And if the neo-cons weren't so cock-sure arrogant, they would have just retracted the statement and let the name Joseph Wilson drift off to the recesses of our minds along with Colleen Rowley, Sibel Edmonds and William Reed.

No - if the Bush administration didn't fuck this up so badly, the Wilsons would still be serving their country - our country - in a way the neo-con's can't fathom. For the benefit and security of the people of the United States and the world. Thank God for Joseph and Valerie Wilson and people like them.
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:30 PM
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122. Thanks, Will!
Reporting for duty, Sir!

:patriot:
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:35 PM
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124. Thanks for posting this wonderful inspiring thread Will, and thanks
to Wilson and Plame and to all DUers! The truth will eventually be outed!

K & R!

:kick:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 06:36 PM
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125. It's nice to get a thank you note! He's a "Class Act."
Sad we have so few of them. That's why we need to still be the "Wind Beneath their Wings."

Thanks for the post.
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FizzFuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:03 PM
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126. Proud to be a DU member.
I'm always recommending it to my friends.

Wonder if we could do a media blast, and have alerts sent out by pm so that no one misses it?

It disgusts me that its so easy for people to have no idea of how dangerous the RW fascists are. The dumbed down culture makes it so easy to ignore everything.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:04 PM
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127. Great to hear and we're ready to help in any way.
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:23 PM
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128. A Call to Action...and We are Ready....thanks Will
:kick:
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jen4clark Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:23 PM
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129. Does anyone know
if we - meaning liberals and progressives - have a site like this one the wingers have? It's an excellent resource for finding MSM email addys:

http://capwiz.com/townhall/dbq/media/

Bookmark the link above, then check around the site. They are extremely well organized and have action alerts, etc... Good to know what the enemy's doing. The Dems need to establish a site using this as a template if there isn't one already!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:34 PM
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130. kicK
:kick:
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:38 PM
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131. Thanks Will ....
And most of all: THANK YOU Joseph and Valerie Wilson .... You are true patriots which exemplify the notion of patriotism ....

We do NOT worship a King; we respect a constitutional system of democratic government .... a government that MUST be formed of honest policies based on honest intelligence ....

The 'King' and his treacherous courtiers can all go to hell ....

Joe and Valerie ? .... We've got your back ....

Thanks again Will ....
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:40 PM
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132. good works...
:)
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:41 PM
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133. The Wilson's will "Always" Have my Full Support!
Thank you Mr. & Mrs. Wilson for your bravery, courage and true American patriotism! Both of you are my hero's!

And, "America has awaken, big-time now!" Somehow everyone I spoke with today (people I've not chatted w/in enos of various walks-of-life) KNOW the truth NOW & are behind all of you, fed-up w/the Fascism takeover!

Rapid response (emails/DC line to my Rep's in speed-dial) ready!

:patriot:

Will Pitt: Thanks, Will. You were the first I found searching for the "truth" after the 2004 stolen election. (http://www.truthout.org/). Found DU from there, and haven't looked back!
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ninkasi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:43 PM
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134. Thanks, Will
Joe and Valerie Wilson have honor, and to try to harm them only shows how arrogant and corrupt the Bush administration is. They were motivated by malice, and never in a million years could they comprehend the fact that the Joe Wilsons of this world serve truth before political attacks.

I greatly admire all three of you...and Symbolman, too, for his filming "Rove's War." We will definitely be there with our support when it is needed.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:44 PM
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136. Thanks for posting, and i am chomping at the bit to give those bastards
some payback. Dare I say, "Bring it on!".
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 07:52 PM
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139. kick
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:05 PM
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141. What a wonderful message
from true patriots. :thumbsup:
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:12 PM
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143. He should run for President IMO
An honest man stating the truth (what a concept!)
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:21 PM
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144. I am here and ready!
Please, DU'ers, don't be silent. Write LTTE's and more importantly speak out to family, friends and co-workers. It is crucial to our country around.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:26 PM
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145. The Wilsons' are true American Patriots!
Thank you Wilsons' for your courage and bravery!

:patriot: :patriot: :patriot:


Thank you so much Will! :applause:
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farmbo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:31 PM
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149. Keep telling the truth Joe...We'll make more!
eom
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:33 PM
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150. Thanks for keeping us informed.
I don't mind you name dropping because I know your intent is to inform us at DU. We appreciate you. Thanks.
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Misskittycat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:36 PM
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151. Thank you Amb. Wilson
for being a true patriot in this dark period in our history.
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globalvillage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:39 PM
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152. Thanks, Will.
This is great. Do you know if there's a decision on the civil suit?
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:40 PM
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153. Thank you Ambassador Wilson.
We will not let you down. Thank you for standing up against this tyranny, at a time when many of our own party leaders cowered in fear and supported the fascist agenda. We will not leave your side. This battle is too important and critical to the survival of our nation.
God Bless you and thank you.


Thanks Will Pitt for sharing this unique opportunity.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 08:55 PM
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154. Mahalo Nui Loa....A Very large Thank You for your courage...Joe and Will
Hard work and the courage to carry on what is best for the Common Good is so rare these days.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:02 PM
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155. 'preciate it, Will.
:thumbsup:
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:06 PM
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156. Dear Wilsons, I'll be proud to do rapid response on your behalf!
Thank you for speaking for me!
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:06 PM
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157. A Kick for Joe and Valerie
:kick:
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:07 PM
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158. Wow Wow Wow Wow Wow
Just wow.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:52 PM
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:03 PM
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163. Will ...
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 10:17 PM by Trajan
Dont let fools ruin your mood .... DU has its own 'colorful' array of them (me included) ... It isnt fair for someone to declare THIS thread as 'self-aggrandizing' ... It is petty and insignificant to grumble so ....

This is something that offers rare insight and support from someone we all care about: YOU have that access, and we DONT ....

It is RIGHT for you to relay this message, given that fact ... Sour grapes by weightless posters mean nothing in the big picture ....

Keep'm comin Will .... We (well most of us) love every one of them .....

(Ok .... Is it time to get pissed ??? .... )
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:26 PM
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 09:54 PM
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161. Joe Wilson was the catalyst to uncovering this conspiracy..
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 10:28 PM by kentuck
If he had not called the Bush Administration on their lies about the Niger yellowcake, where would we be today? We owe him a great debt of gratitude.
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astonamous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:08 PM
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164. Thanks Will and Thank you Mr. & Mrs. Wilson. eom
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:22 PM
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166. Thanks for passing it all along, Will
both to and from Mr. Wilson.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:25 PM
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167. We got'cher backs, Amb. & Mrs Wilson!
Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 10:25 PM by Ilsa
Hang in there a little bit longer, okay? (Hope the civil suit goes well also.)

Thanks, a bunch, Will! :loveya:

From Ilsa and her nonposting Dem friends (like "Apache") who read DU.

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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:28 PM
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169. Glad to back two patriotic Americans.
Thanks for posting the message.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:39 PM
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170. Thank you for sharing & keeping us up to date on Amb. Wilson
I feel so much sorrow for him and his wife, ect. I really do hope those people who lied are held accountible for their actions and jail time is in their future.

:kick:
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:45 PM
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171. Thanks Will, that makes me feel like one of the good guys
:)
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senegal1 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:56 PM
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172. Check out the C-Span Public Hearing from July 22, 2005
entitled Public Disclosure of Covert Agents Product ID 187846-1

While its pricey ($150 for the 2 plus hour DVD) and there seems to be no way to view it without buying it, it has damning testimony by Larry Johnson, Analyst, CIA; Pat Lang, Officer, Defense Intelligence Agency, Middle East; David MacMichael, Case Officer, CIA, and Jim Marcinkowski, Agent, CIA. It has the best discussion of why it matters that there was a leak and what kind of damage this is doing to our national security. Again our good friend John Conyers leads the day with this hearing. This should also be required viewing for all junior Foreign Service Officers.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:58 PM
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173. Only 2 more votes and this thread has 100 recommendations!
C'mon guys, you can do it! Two more!! :bounce:
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-22-05 10:59 PM
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174. Thanks, Will
I'm just speechless, so all I can say is, well, thank you.
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EnfantTerrible Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:01 AM
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176. Thanks Will
And thank you Ambassador and Mrs. Wilson. You are all three an inspiration.
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DemonFighterLives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:05 AM
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178. We're all behind ya Joe and Valerie
:yourock:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:15 AM
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179. Thanks! This is a wonderful message. How many people say thinks.
Makes you want to work that much harder.
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:25 AM
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181. Thanks for sharing your news from Mr. Wilson
He and his wife have really been through the ringer and we want them to know that we've got their backs and stand ready to do our part.
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:48 AM
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183. KICK!
:kick:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:33 AM
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184. Thank you Mr. Ambassador............
we will do all we can to crush this cabal, that has needlessly caused the loss of so many lives, all for a lie.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 02:02 AM
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185. INSPIRATIONAL ...
the Wilson's have our deepest respect and gratitude. Thanks to you Will, for passing this along.

:patriot:
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 03:15 AM
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186. Joe Wilson's speech at UCSB was a great comfort to a lot of us who went
"Comfort" may sound like an odd choice of words, but in a way it was.

This was during the run-up to the invasion, we were marching every week, and were recognizing that the national news media didn't want to acknowledge the depth and validity of the opposition. It was crazy-making.

Joe Wilson came to town to give a public lecture at his alma mater, UC Santa Barbara, and the 900-seat lecture hall was SRO with people from the town as well as the campus. I dragged my friends there.

He minced no words about the Bush administration. He got a lot of applause for saying what we suspected already, and seemed rather puzzled -- said he wasn't sure if we were applauding what he was saying the Bush admin was doing? But we were just SO glad to finally hear someone from that world speak the TRUTH, and validate our sanity.

So THANK YOU, JOE WILSON. Thank you for everything. To both you and your wife: thanks for your service to our nation. I've thought of you often. I hope you get to read this thread -- so many of us are with you, as best we can be.

Yours for better days,
Hekate
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Senator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:44 AM
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188. WE ALL MUST follow Joe's lead >>> Use the F-Word !!
We must all actually say it. FASCIST

Yes, even in mixed company. Say it!

Yes, even if it makes people uncomfortable. Say it!

Yes, even if it "costs" you something. Say it!

Qualify with "neo" or "quasi" if you must. But Say it!

Say it LOUD. Say it OFTEN. Say it in public. Say it on call-in shows. Say it in letters to the editor. Say it in posts. Say it in emails. Say it in crowds. Say it in church. Say it in songs.

Anywhere, anytime, for any reason. Say it.

----
www.january6th.org

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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 05:14 AM
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191. ...last throes
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 07:05 AM
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192. Kick for the Sunday morning crowd!
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 07:42 AM
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193. Wow. Thank you, Will, for sharing this with us.
It means a great deal to so many of us who have been following this story for well over two years. It's well past time that this is finally resolved and Ambassador Wilson finally gets his wish, seeing Rove and the other "most insidious of traitors" "frog-marched out of the White House in handcuffs." He has shown incredible resolve and unflagging courage in the face of unrelenting and unwarranted attacks. Thank you, Ambassador Wilson, for never giving up, and thank you, Will, for letting him know he's got the support of DU and for sharing his response. Keep up the incredible work and know we've got your back, and his.:patriot:

Rhiannon:yourock:
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 09:57 AM
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197. Thank you Ambassador.
You are a fine example of an American, sir.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:29 AM
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199. Finally someone with some clout is using the F word!
The Bush regime is FASCIST!

Howard? Hillary? John(s)? The door has been opened. Will you please step on through?
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:41 AM
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205. After all, they like to use the "S" word on us,
SOCIALIST! SOCIALIST! I get tired of that crap.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 04:55 PM
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216. Right on! n/t
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:50 AM
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200. Working on LTTEs now on this issue, and wishing Joe/Valerie the best
Hope they DO sue the WH whores who are out to destroy them.
We need to counter the RNC talking points with endlessly-repeated rounds of:

Culture of Corruption
Failure of Leadership
Ducking Responsibility
Shirking Duty
Lawlessness
Power at the expense of integrity/honesty/ethics (power at any cost)

We can use talking points too!
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 10:58 AM
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201. very encouraging words
"the last throes of desperation,"...:applause:

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Tuesday_Morning Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 11:38 AM
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204. Thank you Joe and Valerie...
for your courage and patriotism.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:07 PM
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206. There's that word! "Fascist"
At least we know we aren't alone in believing where we're headed. If Joe Wilson sees it, it's there. Fascism is alive and well in this administration. I will go into rapid response mode for Mr. Wilson and his wife. You betcha! I'll fight those bastards to the end. I'm ready and waiting. BRING IT ON!
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:36 PM
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208. One Word:
Indictments.

They are coming and they will smell sweet.
This one CANNOT be allowed to drop off the page. It has to happen.
Hang on to your seats, ladies and gentlemen.
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Wind Dancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 12:43 PM
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210. Thank you, Will.
Ambassador Wilson is the true hero for speaking out and exposing these criminals. We will do everything possible to support him during the "last throes" of desperation. This is such an inspirational thread.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 01:22 PM
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212. Joe and Valerie - thank you for your service to our country!
You are both patriots, and you have my full support.

I will help any way I can with letters or phone calls...

I'm sure the mud-slinging will begin soon, but know that you have the truth and the American public on your side!
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 02:28 PM
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215. Joe Wilson and Valerie Plame in the next Neil Lisst comic
coming at midnight Central time

If I were Fox News, I would repeat this 50 times an hour, but I'm not, so I won't.


http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst/
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 05:02 PM
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217. I wonder if Joseph Wilson has read Waterman Paper or American Judas.
If he has, I wonder how close to the whole truth he thinks DU is.

Plame twofer - The Waterman Paper and American Judas
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4390395
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 06:29 PM
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218. kick
:kick:

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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 06:37 PM
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219. Kick for the Sunday night folks!
:patriot:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-23-05 07:01 PM
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220. Will "Poet" and "Will Minstrel" sort of gets in the meat grinder....
Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 07:05 PM by KoKo01
in our current world...And "Our Will" somehow always get's caught up more in the "critque" than the "Reality." And ends up with "swords drawn fighting both Dragons."

:-(
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countryjake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 06:33 AM
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221. Kicking for Ambassador Wilson!
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:23 AM
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222. Here's Monday's Joe Wilson - Valerie Plame Cartoon
It's today's Neil Lisst. I'm covering Plame Game this week.
http://www.webcomicsnation.com/neillisst/
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:33 AM
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223. Thank you Joe and Valerie Wilson.
:patriot:
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halobeam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:37 AM
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224. That's great!,,,,,,
Good to know he's well aware where some of his support comes from. We are all grateful to you, Mr. and Mrs. Wilson!

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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:08 PM
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225. Boot for the Monday crowd
Almost forgot.
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:17 PM
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226. Thanks Joe & Valerie from the bottom of my heart
We're truly sorry for what you've had to endure and applaud your courage.

I have never wavered in my support for you and your wife, nor have I ever doubted your story. You've taught us all a very valuable lesson.



:grouphug:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:28 PM
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227. Hi Plames
:hi:
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:29 PM
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228. Thanks Joe, we'll keep fighting
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:59 PM
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229. Back in August, found out one of my classmates knew Joe...
When I was at a reunion of American dependents in Turkey, found out one of my classmate friends from there's family knew the Wilson family and spoke very highly of them. We need to stand by Joe and Valerie and everyone else that's putting their neck on the line with these crisises (Fitz, Sibel, Ronnie Earl, etc.)
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