OK, No Rove. Now What?

[ThomWV]

Let is say that sometime before the end of next week Rove resigns - as is probable. That will leave a void where the engineer of this hell-bound-train used to sit. Cheney may be the one to lay out national policy but its clearly Rove's hand that takes care of the execution as well as the political manipulation that hold this cabal in power.

When Rove leaves someone is certainly going to want to take his place. Who will that be? Certainly someone harbors ambitions to be the world's most powerful puppet master.

[hang a left]

1. If this case goes to the heart of the Niger forgeries....

Cheney will not survive. He will be an unindicted co-conspirator. I bet he brought boxes to work today.

[McKenzie]

5. This is probably why the neocons are crapping it

If there are detailed hearings then a lot of really nasty tales will unfold. And the web of deceit is so complex a lot of people, including some who have not (yet) been investigated, are going to be in deepest poo as a result of what will be disclosed...under oath.

[napi21]

2. Only names I've heard were Gillespie and Mehlman.

They're both good enough at the BS. I don't think either is as cunning and vindictive al Rove though.

If Rove is gone, emotionally, it will be a HUGH blow to the Pub Party!

[Fla Dem]

8. Fortunately Bush is only comfortable with people he has known

for decades; hence his appointing people to positions he has known for a long time. A new person will have to be someone he knows/likes, or they will have a hard time working with him. Whoever it may be, won't be as effective as Rove, or maybe even with the Christian Right that Rove has cultivated for so many years.

[Norquist Nemesis]

11. I've heard of a couple of others including Karen Hughes

and that squirrelly guy (dammit! I can picture his face but can't remember his name :banghead: ) He has blonde hair, glasses, and a squeaky voice...Chris Matthews pulls him in occasionally. The guys another WH insider.

[insane_cratic_gal]

3. Don't fool yourself

they will still use Rove and seek his advice.

He's been ruined before with Bush Sr for leaking to a reporter, and he clawed and bitch slapped his way back up the ladder.

I have no doubt he'll be hired a personal consultant with his "prison" confinement to his house with an ankle bracelet. Even in an orange suit they'd still consult with him.

Right now the Republican party doesn't know how to survive without Rove.

[cassiepriam]

4. I agree. As long as he has a cell phone he will still be *'s minder

[DemocracyInaction]

7. insane---you are totally correct

Just like that cow Karen went away to take care of her darling child (and is now back)--they were still joined at the hip.

[KharmaTrain]

9. They Were All At Camp David Last Weekend

Ya think these goons were discussing department budgets? :sarcasm:

I think the reality hit home last week that Rove and Libby could be forced out...and then what. Look at all the speculation that came out toward the end of the week. It went from the big taboo question to one of the most asked. Surely Rove's absence as he builds the bunker didn't help things.

But I'm certain, just like in DeLay's situation...where's he's still running the show (amazingly Blount's lips do the moving) and Rove is too central to all the cronyism and levers of power to just vanish. Diminished yes, gone, no.

Remember, these goons are good at using proxies to do their dirty work. Karl can do this very well from his suburban home or in Texas as he can from the West Wing. People will still take his calls, he's still money in the bank with the big donors and he is slimy survivor who will find a way to maintain some kind of influence or power as long as the manchild sits in the oval office.

[Ian David]

6. Remember Bush's "impromptu chat" with the troops?

That's what when we can expect to see more of when Rove is gone.

Bush Minus Rove = Mike Dukakis

That is, in terms of public performance, not in terms of policy.

FYI: The woman who decided to put Dukakis in a tank is now a Republican.

[LiberalEsto]

10. Karen Hughes nt

[leftofthedial]

12. "takes care of the execution"

and the "suicides"

There is no end to the supply of evil repukes

they'll bring up some new Lee Atwater wannabe from AAA.

Let's hope the new guy is not as "good" at his job as the shitstain, er, turdblossom.

[Jed Dilligan]

13. Don't scare me like that

I thought your thread title meant he wasn't being indicted!

[Gold Metal Flake]

14. If Rove leaves, that means a tourniquet is released.

An effective point of pressure, of human (WH staff, media and congressional) control will be removed from most aspects of it's sphere of influence. An enforcer lost. A capo removed. Know what I mean?

Will some in the WH, in the CM and in Congress, those who have been covered by Rove's wet blanket of control, explore their expanded freedoms?

Will the leaks grow? Will fear of backlash and prosecution exceed fear of *co retribution?

[dem91203]

15. We must Impeach Bush ( USE RICO )

As Libby , Rove and many other SADISTIC NE-CON EVANGELICAL ACTIVISTS await trial indictment or sentencing the true (Values) of the (The F.O.G. Elite) are coming to public view. I just found out that a Statement on Federal Emergency Assistance for Louisiana was issued around the 27^th of Aug. Was this a plant ? This document says that BUSH and FEMA were in control of the emergency response to Katrina not Nagin and Blanco. Given BUSH's in action during the disaster and his history of neglect in New Orleans SELA funding starting with his 2001 Tax Cut^(1#). I to wonder when this was typed is this a cover up in progress? Is some one trying to obfuscate some thing ?

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  In 2001, FEMA warned that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S. But the Bush administration cut New Orleans flood control funding by 44 percent to pay for the Iraq war.







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  Investigators looking into the breaches in New Orleans find problems in design, construction and maintenance of the flood-control barriers.

  
  

  
  

  By Ralph Vartabedian and Stephen Braun, Times Staff Writers

  
  

  
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  The massive failures of levees in New Orleans during Hurricane Katrina, which flooded the city and caused hundreds of deaths, resulted from flaws at almost every level in the conception, design, construction and maintenance of the region's flood-control system, according to the preliminary findings of investigators

If you read How do we Impeach Bush?[/b>] and note the proposed use of RICO as a vehicle to put a stop to the Republican Hypocrisy And Perversion that is spreading across the United States of America . The RNC's (Values) are not welcome in the majority of AMERICAN house holds. (The F.O.G. Elite) are in the process of being busted one by one^{(1)(2)(3)(4)(5)(6)(7
)(8)(9)(10)(11)(12)}. This is what is going on WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR PARSER????