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DemocracyInaction Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:02 AM
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How Come We Only Trust the Rich??
We Dems are a bit better than the Repukes in this but not by much. When it comes to presidential nominees (Clinton maybe having been an exception), Senators and a good majority of Representatives, we keep gravitating to the "millionaires". Might not be the end of the world if they were 'self-made' but more and more they are simply the beneficiaries of millions inherited from "family". (Perhaps it is as simple as no one makes it to that echelon unless they ARE rich or stuff their pockets with money on their way up through the political ranks). But I do know this: we can never expect that "we the common people" are going to be protected or helped as long as this reign of the wealthy continues. They either don't care or don't know any better because of living in another universe.

We rail against George but George is just a poster child for the power we have let loose in Washington. It just strikes me, though, that "we the common people" somehow don't really gravitate or trust (or something) our own kind. And that mentality is really, really ingrained in the Republican minions. We have to break the feudal mentality if we are going to install real democracy in this nation.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:04 AM
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1. Because reaching that level takes a ton of money
Its not that we look to the rich. Its that the rich are the only ones winning elections.

Granted, its not universally true. Especially in the House.

But for the most part, our Senators and Presidents have been wealthy men.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:05 AM
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2. I DO think it's because only the wealthy can afford to run for
political positions that high in the food chain.

The days of Harry Truman have been gone for a very long time!
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:09 AM
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3. I don't
Trust the rich. Or anyone else much.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:09 AM
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4. Who else can afford to be unemployed for two years?
Shortened campaigns and equal access to media are needed.
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abluelady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:11 AM
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5. I Don't Think Trust is the Right Word
The rich are all we have. I don't trust the rich more, if anything less. Most rich people are either born to it or come by it in a way that is not particularly appealing to me. At least a rich Dem is working for me, as opposed to the rich Repug. They may not work for me in a way that I like but they are trying. The other side just talks out of both sides of their mouths and try to help their own.
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Kralizec Donating Member (982 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:12 AM
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6. I think this is a sign of oppression. There are many people who are
not rich who I think many would trust. The problem is that they are oppressed! They don't have the will or the resources to speak out on a significant scale. And when they do, the "rich" you speak of promptly mute him out (Dean). Therefore, the only people around to trust are the richies.

Just my $0.02

Peace.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:14 AM
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7. You don't trust "we the common people" because of the corporate media
They spread the meme that ordinary people are brutish and selfish creatures that are unfit for office except the refined rich who have reached a level where they can escape that way of life for the better one they currently enjoy.

The problem is greed and money. You have those deep inside the business world who are financing the campaigns of political candidates to win office, and when they do, they turn around and pay back the favors such as adding more tax credits to the code or writing loopholes that benefit the rich for the sake of keeping more money.

This is the way it has been since special interest money has been allowed, especially since the SCOTUS ruled it was considered "free speech." This will not change unless that ruling is overturned and the election system is replaced with one subsidized exclusively by taxpayer dollars like many other representative democracies in Europe and other places.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:14 AM
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8. Can you answer WHEN did Kerry BECOME a millionaire?
Because, according to the history on him that I have read, although his mother came from the Forbes family, she wasn't a wealthy member and his father was in civil service his entire career.

Kerry was sent to college by a childless aunt who did have money and he worked to pay his expenses.

Kerry always worked in public office, co-owned a small cookie store, inherited some money recently upon his mother's death in 2003.

He and Teresa, who he married in 1995, have a legal agreement that their money is separate.

Guess you want to blame him for owning a home in Boston and in DC that appreciated considerably from the time he bought them.


Kerry's personal wealth has always been exaggerated by a press intent on taking him down for over 3 decades.
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MarsThe Cat Donating Member (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:14 AM
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9. the media trusts the rich...
because the rich own the media.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:22 AM
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10. Wealthy people have more money to run their campaigns
That's the heart of the problem IMO.

In today's political world you need millions to get the TV and other exposure that you need to be a serious presidential contender.

What we really need is to reform the system so that money doesn't provide such a large advantage to those wishing to run for office.
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:43 AM
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11. One dollar equals one vote machine
Unfortunately, we have a one-dollar equals one vote system in which only he who can feed the media beast-- with ad money--can prevail in a political machine, run by perceptions, carefully manipulated by these warmongers.

See the Dean scream as an excellent example; of how they corrupt the system, to change or manipulate events, and thus history via perceptions, or tactics of mind control. This is most disturbing because typically in an ideal democracy the people write the laws, and interact with one another in friendly and productive manner in business and politics.

To be productive in such a modern world as we live in today would require, free health care for all etc. type policies and non-violent institutions to provide security for the people.

However, the corrupt politicians mostly part of a secret society of Republicans create laws and policies that benefit the crystal corporate palace (otherwise called Corporate welfare for the rich plutocrats) to guarantee cash flow into their pockets regardless of the moral or ethical ramifications.

This knowledge of the corruption of the system; is mostly known by the pacifists, and conscientious objectors of war-- because the Republicans-- in this one dollar system need a media to control and mold (or in modern day speak brainwash the people). For example, look at 9/11, Bin Laden is not a product of the East and Asian culture, he is a product of the West, funded and trained by this secret society of Republicans, thru another ultra Republican society called the CIA.

That is the reason why their have been no trials--or even any real investigation--of these rich and famous terrorists, because, they would expose, the connections between the Republicans and the terrorist themselves.

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mondo joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 09:45 AM
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12. Who says we ONLY trust the rich? Or even TRUST them? To reach the
seats of power one must have the resources needed to get there. Consequently they will tend to be people with resources.

Duh.
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