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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:48 AM
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NYDNews: Bush says "Cheney was overly involved in intelligence issues"
The vice president remains Bush's most trusted political confidant. Even so, the Daily News has learned Bush has told associates Cheney was overly involved in intelligence issues in the runup to the Iraq war that have been seized on by Bush critics.

Bush is so dismayed that "the only person escaping blame is the President himself," said a sympathetic official, who delicately termed such self-exoneration "illogical."

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/v-pfriendly/story/358714p-305660c.html
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:49 AM
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1. Cheney is a viper.
* may be dealing with a bad case of snakebite soon.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:50 AM
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2. so Bush is selling out everyone below him including Cheney...
wow...

this guy has mental problems
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:51 AM
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4. OMG, I wonder if he'll sell out Laura too? LOL. n/t
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:23 PM
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37. Can y ou imagine how she feels? The whole world hates her husband.
Poor Laura.


NOT.
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whatever4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:01 PM
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14. That's what I thought too. nm
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:33 PM
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39. Loyalty is a one way street for the * gang.
It's all for me and none for you.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:51 AM
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3. poor poor bush - my heart breaks for him as I play this tiny violin
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 11:52 AM by emulatorloo
:nopity:

ON EDIT: smiley malfunction
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:51 AM
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5. * is such an idiot...
He STILL thinks he hasn't done anything wrong! GAAAAHHHH!!! :banghead:
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ArbustoBuster Donating Member (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:30 PM
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28. I think he knows he lied and conspired
to take the US into Iraq. But I also agree that he's an idiot because he still thinks he's going to get away with it.
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:13 PM
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34. That's it in a nutshell...
I think he believes that everything he did was justified, so he honestly doesn't think he will get in trouble! :crazy:

*: "Them laws aren't for pretzelnets like me. I'm on a mission from Gawd!"

Hey, if I haven't said it yet - welcome! :hi:
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:52 AM
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6. Food fight now in progress. Bwahahahahahahahaha.
Republicans going down.

Yessssssssssssssssssssss.
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TiredOfLies Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:52 AM
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7. Looks like Bush
is already trying to shift the blame.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:53 AM
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9. He knows this is going to be a very bad week for his gang.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:47 PM
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32. Oh of course
:eyes:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:53 AM
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8. Talking about himself in the third person - how Nixonian
:eyes:
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:55 AM
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10. Am I reading that right?? I can't believe me eyes........
Bush is now actively selling out Cheney?
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:08 PM
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20. That's what I thought........Cheney will be so pissed.
And we know what he can do to those he's pissed at. Cheney can bury dubya.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:11 PM
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22. Bet it's nothing he hasn't heard already
Sounds like bush is on a constant tirade with officials and staff at all levels. O8)
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:20 PM
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25. "Cheney can bury dubya"
Literally. If I were the Chimp in Chief, I wouldn't be accepting any pretzels handed to me.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:48 PM
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33. I hope Cheney sells him out!
That would be so good! It appears they really are in a "civil war" with each other. :popcorn:
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:21 PM
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35. Get me a front row seat for that.! Never thought I'd root for Dick!
:toast::toast::toast::toast::toast::toast::toast:
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 08:07 PM
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47. He'll sell out anyone and anything
he has no morals, no honor. I can easily seeing him throwing anyone in front of the train to "save" himself.

There's no saving himself from history, however. He's doomed.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:56 AM
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11. "the only person escaping blame is the President himself,"
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 12:03 PM by in_cog_ni_to
Think again, asshole. You're not escaping blame....this shit rests at the feet of the President. Since you saw fit to steal 3 elections so you could play president, you OWN this scandal.:grr: What a fucking idiot.

on edit...as for Cheney being overly involved in intelligence....The idiot didn't question it when the man planted his ass at the CIA offices for months and months? Didn't it bother the idiot to learn that Cheney was the first and ONLY VP to ever do that? Didn't the idiot's pea brain wonder WTF Cheney was doing? The idiot was complicit for being such a dumb fuck...or was he? He knew what Cheney was doing at the CIA. He knew he was cooking the intelligence.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:57 AM
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12. I wonder if the portraits in the Blight House have been getting a good
dressing down lately?

"Clinton, you had sex...with women.....in the White House. The praysident!" (paraphrasing a fave SNL sketch).

:rofl:

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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 11:58 AM
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13. And he said that because KKKarl told him to.
Karl sold out Libby; Bush throws Cheney under the bus.

The fugue structure of this scandal gets more fascinating every day.
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:03 PM
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15. Okay, I have a question........
"the only person escaping blame is the President himself,"

How could really be escaping blame?? He picked these people. This stuff was done on his watch. How could he really escape blame?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:42 PM
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45. One adviser offers an even more whimsical criticism...
of the way he chose Miers:

"He must know that the way he did that, relying on his own judgment and instinct, was not good," another key adviser said.

:rofl:

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:04 PM
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16. What ever happened to "I'm a strong leader"?
This is the same guy who strutted around all macho and 'in-charge' as the leader of the free world! This is the same guy who oversaw an administration maligning top officials of other institutions (such as the UN) saying they needed to step down because of their inability to LEAD.

Hypocrite!
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:04 PM
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17. illogical? How about Insane? I mean come one that's nuts.
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 12:09 PM by Bob3
If this story is accurate, * is acting like a drunk coming off a bender blaming everybody for driving him to drink. Which isn't much of a stretch come to think of it.

So when does he have the public meltdown? That's what we want to know.

:popcorn:
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:54 PM
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42. So when does he have the public meltdown?
That's what we want to know.

And See!!!!

I want it aired 10 times an hour, every hour, for days on end. I promise not to get sick of seeing it.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:05 PM
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18. Bush, like Nixon, would throw everybody overboard just to save
his own skin.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:06 PM
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19. I love the sound of
rightwingers eating their own.:bounce:
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:22 PM
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36. Crunch, crunch, burp.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:08 PM
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21. Poppy Bush ran the corrupt operations while Ronnie handled the pomp.
Bushboy is setting himself up to be Ronnie while Cheney handles all the policy work.

Bushboy DID do the dirty strategy stuff he loves WITH Rove. It's who he is - a political dirty tricks artist.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:11 PM
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23. The sharks surround the big fish.
Cheney is going to fall ......HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:12 PM
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24. Not so fast there Bush Baby
you have not escaped blame...
you just refuse to accept it.
Someday soon your bubble will burst,
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:26 PM
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26. No shit?
Gee - how many times did he have to go to Langley to beat the shit out of those lily-livered CIA analysts in order to get the case for Iraq written up?
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:30 PM
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27. Overly?
Ahem.
I thought B*sh put Cheney in charge of national security.
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:40 PM
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29. It's all my Dick's fault! n/t
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:46 PM
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30. is this mirage actually taking shape
into something real? Unbelievable.

Bush making decisions on his own, (Hey I didn't sign on to be President, oh wait a minute, yes I did).
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 12:47 PM
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31. Cheney's visit to the CIA
And Bolton being there.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:27 PM
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38. Karl overly involved in political manuvering.
Libby overly involved with Judy Miller.
Press overly involved in truth.
CIA overly involved in reality.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:42 PM
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40. Well, no duh...
Bush is so dismayed that "the only person escaping blame is the President himself"

Hmmm, is he feeling left out?

:shrug:
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 01:52 PM
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41. This is the pResident's loyal slackers, hackers and flackers
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 01:53 PM by Pithy Cherub
setting up the Cheney meme. * is trying to lie low while curled in a fetal position hoping this political hurricane blows over. The fact that the flackers are trying to portray * as the victim is the media spin to come. :eyes:

But alas, Fitz has yet to weigh in...:popcorn:

on edit: wrong version of to
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:30 PM
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43. What Bush is really thinking/feeling
"Presidential advisers and friends say Bush is a mass of contradictions: cheerful and serene, peevish and melancholy, occasionally lapsing into what he once derided as the 'blame game.'"

Read: Sometimes Bush's meds kick in, sometimes they lapse.

"They describe him as beset but unbowed, convinced that history will vindicate the major decisions of his presidency even if they damage him and his party in the 2006 and 2008 elections."

Read: Bush thinks attacking Iraq was "some bold shit" and his stirring up that hornets' nest will somehow magically settle down and the Middle East will live happily ever after under a glow of "democracy."
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milkyway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:34 PM
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44. This is turning into Lord of the Fucking Flies.
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 07:43 PM
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46. Bush shouldn't think he has escaped blame
we don't know who's getting indicted yet :)
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