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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:25 PM
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judith miller brings out the gloves - her response to nyt editors
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 02:32 PM by faithnotgreed
is this a duplicate because i havent seen this posted but im sure du must have it somewhere (ill check again and sorry if this is a dupe)


NEW YORK Byron "Barney" Calame, public editor for The New York Times, posted at his Web journal late Sunday a reply from reporter Judith Miller, strenuously taking issue with his critique of her actions in the CIA leak issue published in the newspaper earlier that day.

In it, among other things, she raises the volume in her dispute with Executive Editor Bill Keller, as she now terms Keller's memo to staff on Friday "ugly." Also, for the first time, she names Jill Abramson as the editor she talked to about supposedly writing an article about the Plame outing -- then attacked her version of events.

In his intro to her e-mail, Calame observers that Miller
"refers to 'answers' she had sent me to questions I posed to her during an interview Thursday. My column reflected the relevant responses she gave me during our interview, and her e-mail message arrived too late for inclusion in the column."

Here is Miller's e-mail to Calame:

*

Barney,

I’m dismayed by your essay today. You accuse me of taking journalistic “shortcuts” without presenting evidence of what you mean and rely on unsubstantiated innuendo about my reporting.

While you posted Bill Keller’s sanitized, post-lawyered version of the ugly, inaccurate memo to the staff he circulated Friday, which accused me of “misleading” an editor and being “entangled” with I. Lewis Libby, you declined to post the answers I sent you to six questions that we touched on during our interview Thursday. Had you done so, readers could have made their own assessment of my conduct in what you headlined as “the Miller mess.”

(much more at)
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001350291
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:26 PM
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1. A cornered rat will fight to the death...
:yoiks:
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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:27 PM
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2. She doesn't know what she did wrong!?!? n/t
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:29 PM
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7. She is Bush's long lost twin. She takes no responsibility.
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Tennessee Gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:27 PM
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3. What a cry baby!
Her incompetence is on display.
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Halliburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:28 PM
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4. Judy's getting exactly what she deserves.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:28 PM
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5. I guess it's Judy's Turn To Cry ...
... and she'll be carrying on like Nancy Kerrigan for the rest of her days!!!!!!!!!!:nopity:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:28 PM
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6. Suck it up, Judy. The aspens done turned.
Your season in the sun is over. The only WMDs out there were you, Libby, Darth Cheney, and Chalabi. And that big bomb on the horizon was a Rover.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:35 PM
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13. And the roots are so well connected....at FOX.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:31 PM
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8. Code Blue: Call a Waaaaahmbulance immediately!
Judy is choking on her own lies. The NYT is providing the *medical care*! Karma in action....

:popcorn:
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:31 PM
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9. I'm sure Fitzgerald is loving this battle
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 02:32 PM by DoYouEverWonder
the more they blab and point fingers at each other, the more they incriminate themselves. Keep yapping your flap Judy, you'll have plenty of time to write about it in jail.

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Citizen Jane Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:32 PM
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10. She just doesn't get it
Another piece of her letter...

<snip>
My second journalistic sin in your eyes was agreeing to Libby’s request to be considered a “former Hill staffer” in his discussion about Wilson. As you acknowledged, I agreed to that attribution only to hear the information. As I also stressed, Scooter Libby has never been identified in any of my stories as anything other than a “senior Administration official.”
<snip>

I read Calame as saying, according to Judas she lied to Libby and always intended to I.D. him as a Sr. Admin official. In other words, she's a liar.

Of course, let's say that her reading is right and he was upset that she would call him a "former hill staffer," that still reeks.

Either way you cut it she is s POS.
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:36 PM
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14. yes - and hasnt that point been disputed
i thought that she in fact did refer to libby as a "former hill staffer" in her writing

how else would that fact come to light (or be an issue)
it doesnt make sense from what she says here
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:33 PM
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11. Oh, fuck Judith Miller
:puke:
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:34 PM
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12. I guess she doesn't want to work at any other paper, either.
what editor would hire her?
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:39 PM
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17. right
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 02:42 PM by faithnotgreed
my first thought was she is covering herself because she knows that she will not be invited back

this response seems to set up that (in her mind) she would have come back at some point but NOW
wouldnt think of going back under these circumstances where everyone is against her and publicly written untrue things about her integrity
ha
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:38 PM
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15. what I find funny is she can now remember exact details. man I wish
she would say something that would go directly something she said to the grand jury. I would love to see her recalled by the grand jury because of her big mouth.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:39 PM
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16. Well Frankly... The NYT Has Really Let Me Down!
I started noticing it a long time ago! And recently when I was in D.C. I got a personalized tour of NPR and asked some pointed questions about just what was going on with the media!

The answer I came away with, is the USUAL... we got bigger, have more money and need to be more CAREFUL about what we say!!

THAT from The Fourth Estate!! They've sold their souls and they know it!!

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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:40 PM
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18. She's a liar of the soul who spread fear so Israel could rule the world
Her loyalty isn't to the United States or even the human race, it's to the PNAC and the others who want the world to be dominated by the United States and Israel.

She is a liar against the soul of a profession that's very premise is the communication of observed reality. She is the worst kind of moral traitor, and as she hides behind her posturing of being a mere conduit of world events, she should suffer. Her lies are legendary.

As she plays for sympathy, she experiences the belated backlash from those who have suffered at her hands.

What's more amazing than anything else is how idiotic her protestations have been.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:41 PM
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19. Judy, the caskets continue to return from Iraq. Do you give a fuck?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:42 PM
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20. She has absolutely NO conscience
A sociopath like the Preznint she enabled.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:43 PM
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21. Attacking your employer - a new strategy?
Maybe this is the true path to fame and fortune.

Fire her. Do it now, do it legally. Make sure it's the last time you see her.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:43 PM
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22. NYT is an asswipe
I remember when they set the benchmark, now it's not even worthy of the birdcage or ass crack.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 02:53 PM
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23. Time to pack up your desk Judy
Clean out your locker, pack your shit, turn in your ID, and wait for security to escort you to the elevators.

Bye-bye!
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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:12 PM
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24. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
Isn't it simply amazing that she apparently STILL has the cojones to accuse others of a lack of journalistic integrity?

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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:21 PM
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25. Ah Lady MacBeth
can't wash the blood off of her hands.....
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MissMarple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:49 PM
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26. I'm guessing Miss Run Amok hasn't read Maureen Dowd's column, yet.
I can hear the hissing and spitting now. :rofl:
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the_spectator Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 03:55 PM
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27. Extremely Mangled Cliche Alert!
You really mean she "TAKES OFF the gloves" not "BRINGS OUT the gloves." Perhaps you were subconsciously thinking that she might be bringing out gloves to slap some Timesman across the face and so challenge him to a duel?!?

Takes off the gloves ... please remember it for next time!
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SittingBull Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:11 PM
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28. Judy, shut up!
we don't want your crap anymore. And beware off calling you a journalist. You are a a priceless presstitute, a WHIG whore...
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:15 PM
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29. Buh-bye Judy, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.
Just go, Judy - GO!!

I'm sure Faux news is looking for some more biased criminal "journalists" for thier Nazi propaganda machine...
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