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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:43 PM
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Perjury Big Deal!!! Obstruction Justice Big Deal!!! Its not a crime!"
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 04:44 PM by lovuian
Republicans obviously don't know what a crime is!!!

Chris Mathews has them yelling Big Deal!!!

Said the Repubs scurrying around the white house and it looks like they might have gotten their letters today!!!

Its just Politics!!! thats the Repubs!!!

Andrea Mitchell is pleading with Fitz not to jail and arrest these guys!!!

She is pleading its bad for the country!!!

:argh:
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:44 PM
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1. Treason is a big deal. Has Matthews asked them about treason?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:45 PM
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3. thats kinda not been talked about!!! the spinning is spinning!!!
:argh:
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WritingIsMyReligion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:45 PM
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2. West Wing couldn't have picked a more perfect time for
this latest series. I think of that show EVERY day now.

:D :D :D
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:49 PM
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7. ME TOO! Did you see it last night? How fitting to the current
circumstances! I was spellbound while watching Pres Bartlett tell Toby "You will find many people outside who sympathize with you. Just don't think I'll ever be one of them!"

I LOVE THAT SHOW!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:47 PM
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4. Tucker best scenario No indictments just a report!!!
Tucker says he's going indict that only Fitzgerald knows about!!!

WHOOO!!!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:48 PM
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5. Ronnie Reagan thinks they are going to indict on why we got
in America!!! Tucker says Nobody knows whats going on!!!
Ronnie says in his little town of Seatle EVERYBODY IS TALKING ABOUT IT!!!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:49 PM
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8. Tony Blankly said if they perjured themselves ITS SERIOUS
and Bush needs to get rid of them!!!
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:49 PM
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6. Andrea sez it's "bad for the country."
Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 04:50 PM by stopbush
This is one of the defenses bushco has been getting ready for over the last two years. The truth is that EVERYONE in bushco was involved in Plamegate, including Bolton, Sleeza, Cheney and the rest of them. To that end, * has been busy elevating and promoting his co-conspirators to the heighest levels of the government, the UN etc.

When the indictments finally come down, the Rs will launch the "this is ridiculous" defense! "We could see one or two people, or low-level staffers, but everybody? How will the gov operate? You're indicting Bolton? What about the UN? Do you really think people who have been fully vetted by the Senate confirmation process could have done such a thing? People's lives are at stake here. The whole thing is so overblown and ridiculous that it just all needs to go away."
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:51 PM
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9. if Bush gets locked in to defending the Indefensible then its
going to get really bad in the White House!!!

Tony says it Washington Post!!! Bush needs to wash his hands and go on!!!
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:52 PM
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10. It was all covered in the little known.......
"Republican cover your ass" bill passed on February 5, 2001. That law states, and I quote... "any law(s) that may have pertained to Democrats involving perjury, conspiracy and/or obstruction of justice are hereby null and void for the term(s) of any Republican President, his cabinet, advisers and really great pals who think he's the most brilliant man they've ever met".
I'm surprised no one here remembers that bill being discussed and voted upon, the MSM made quite a big deal out of it. They talked of nothing else for weeks prior. :shrug:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:55 PM
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11. Help them to remember!
They just need to recall what they were saying 6 years ago (From dKos):

Sen. Frist: "There is no serious question that perjury and obstruction of justice are high crimes and misdemeanors...Indeed, our own Senate precedent establishes that perjury is a high crime and misdemeanor...The crimes of perjury and obstruction of justice are public crimes threatening the administration of justice."

Sen. Kyl: "...there can be no doubt that perjurious, false, and misleading statements made under oath in federal court proceedings are indeed impeachable offenses...John Jay, the first Chief Justice of the United States, said `there is no crime more extensively pernicious to society' than perjury, precisely because it `discolors and poisons the streams of justice.'"

Sen. DeWine: "Obstruction of justice and perjury strike at the very heart of our system of justice...Perjury is also a very serious crime...The judiciary is designed to be a mechanism for finding the truth-so that justice can be done. Perjury perverts the judiciary, turning it into a mechanism that accepts lies-so that injustice may prevail."

Sen. Talent: "Nobody else in a position of trust, not a CEO, not a labor union leader, not a principal of a school could do half of what the president has done and stay in office. I mean, who would have said a year ago that a president could perjure himself and obstruct justice and tamper with witnesses... and stay in office."

Sen. McConnell: "I am completely and utterly perplexed by those who argue that perjury and obstruction of justice are not high crimes and misdemeanors...Perjury and obstruction hammer away at the twin pillars of our legal system: truth and justice."

Sen. Voinovich: "As constitutional scholar Charles Cooper said, `The crimes of perjury and obstruction of justice, like the crimes of treason and bribery, are quintessentially offenses against our system of government, visiting injury immediately on society itself.'"

Sen. Hutchison: "The reason that I voted to remove him from office is because I think the overridding issue here is that truth will remain the standard for perjury and obstruction of justice in our criminal justice system and it must not be gray. It must not be muddy."

Sen. Craig: "There is no question in my mind that perjury and obstruction of justice are the kind of public crimes that the Founders had in mind, and the House managers have demonstrated these crimes were committed by the president. As for the excuses being desperately sought by some to allow President Clinton to escape accountability, it seems to me that creating such loopholes would require tearing holes in the Constitution-something that cannot be justified to protect this president, or any president."

Sen. Brownback: "Perjury and obstruction of justice are crimes against the state. Perjury goes directly against the truth-finding function of the judicial branch of government."
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:56 PM
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12. Whats so sad is these people graduated from college!!!
Just shows ya whats coming out of there!!!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 04:57 PM
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13. Hariet Meir on her questionaire she totally missed it on
Constitutional law!!! Tucker & Ronnie agree she is NOT QUALIFIED!!!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:00 PM
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14. Tucker says it too late to attack Fitzgerald!!! The Prez praised him
Bush's only chance is fire people and apologize to the country and move on and Ronnie says he was mad at Clinton for lying and this isn't even close!!! Much Worse!!!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-24-05 05:02 PM
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15. Everybody thinks its going to be Perjury Conspiracy Obstructive
of justice!!!

they think its Wednesday!!!
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