My smackdown of a freeper.

[JohnnyCougar]

From my new blog, truth > lies

Freeper:

As for the USA withdrawing from this conflict, that is no longer an option, since if we did withdraw now we would quickly become a target of more terrorist attacks, because the rest of the world would perceive us as weaklings and press their advantage. I'm not advocating war per se, but since it has started then we must unfortunately finish it. Let us hope and pray it finishes quickly and Iraq can then help themselves as a democracy.

<snip>

Then please explain to me why The Twin Towers and The Pentagon were bombed? Why did they bomb the Twin Towers the FIRST time? Why did they bomb the USS Cole? When we (the United States)were not doing anything to Osama and his co-horts? We were peacefully minding our own business when we were attacked. Multiple attacks of that nature says to me that they would have continued(and gotten MUCH worse)if the United States had NOT stepped in and said ENOUGH. That, sir/madam, is my logical explanation.

JohnnyCougar replies:

The White House just put out a report about 9 or so terrorist attacks since 9/11 that they thwarted. So people are still trying to attack us over here. Remember the New York subway scare?

Unless, of course, the White House is lying to make themselves look more competent.

Your call:

Is the White House lying?

-or-

Are terrorists still trying to attack us?

Your options are mutually exclusive, so you have to pick one of them.

Feel free to visit my blog and post comments. I just posted my reply, so the freeper has not responded yet.

[lostexpectation]

1. the biggest falicy of them all

that 911 or al qaeda attacks came out of the blue and the West led by the USA pillaging of the world wouldn't one day come back to haunt them

[NewJeffCT]

5. welcome to DU

I'll give you my sarcastic Condi-special, "how could anybody have anticipated that terrorists would fly airplanes into buildings?" I have go gag now.

[meganmonkey]

6. Yep - as if 911 was spontaneous and random

That is why the RW has to use logic like "They hate us for our freedoms"...:wtf: They wouldn't dare look at the nuanced reasons that some may resent the way our gov't and people behave!

Welcome to DU, lostexpectation!

:toast:

[newyawker99]

12. Hi lostexpectation!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[cynatnite]

2. When Raygun pulled the Marines out of Lebanon...

Where there more terrorist attacks afterwards? I don't remember there being any so someone may need to correct me.

[stop the bleeding]

4. "Terra Alerts" /scares that the marvelous WH has been able to

prevent. Duck and cover.

[xchrom]

3. they must perceive the u.s. as weak there, in iraq.

the u.s. being perceived as weak isn't an argument.

did t. mcveigh worry about a perception of weakness?

[SheilaT]

7. Here's the other big fallacy:

That Al Qaeda is all-powerful and has hundreds, maybe thousands of agents undercover in this country, just biding their time until the next big attack.

I commented around noon on September 11, 2001, that this was it, whoever did it had blown their wad and it would be a very long time if ever before they pulled anything else off again.

And I stand by what I said. There has been nothing resembling a concerted attack, no credible evidence of groups of plotters still hanging out here. Oh, I realize that there are many here and abroad who hate our government and would willingly do whatever they could to blow something up, but they are not organized in a way to make it possible. I rest my case on the simple fact that nothing has occurred, and that, despite claims to the contrary no conspiracies have been uncovered.

[leesa]

10. Except the many coincidental facts linking Cheney and the Bush

Crime Family to the commission of 9-11.

[ScreamingMeemie]

8. Whoever bru is, he/she is kicking butt....!

Nice blog Johnny...how oxymoronic is that guy's username? :hi:

[JohnnyCougar]

14. Bru is my bro!

I got some new comments up today!

[KharmaTrain]

9. Touche...I Wanna See This Answer

Yep, those two questions are mutually exclusive. Dare this flying monkey do the impossible and figure that the two are truly inclusive as once you figure out one, you have to admit the other. :eyeroll:.

I'm about to start calling these goons "Fear Monkeys"...as that's all they can find as a justification for anything this regime does. It's some kinda phobia that is at the root of any issue they play with. Fear of Arabs (Iraq), Fear of Blacks (NOLA), Fear of Hispanics (Immigration), Fear of Women (Abortion), Fear of their own sexuality (GMA) and so on.

Good work...be asured you will not get a straight answer and there's always a Clenis standing by.

[jmowreader]

11. Note to the freeper

...When we (the United States) were not doing anything to Osama and his co-horts?

Osama bin Laden is a firm believer that the Middle East should be for Muslims only. He never liked Saddam, in parts because Saddam isn't a good Muslim, because Saddam had equality for women (okay, he treated everyone like shit) and because of the large non-Muslim community that was present in Iraq before we invaded Iraq.

Ronald Reagan created Osama. He needed fiery young men to fight the Soviets in Afghanistan, and Osama was more than up to the challenge. Reagan's government trained and equipped al Qaeda and sent them to run off the Soviets--which they did.

After the Sovs pulled out of Afghanistan, Osama was okay with the US.

Then Bush the Elder decided to hold a war against Iraq. Osama hates Saddam, so he was okay with that too.

Then Bush the Elder decided to leave American troops in Saudi Arabia permanently. Saudi is Osama's homeland. Osama wasn't okay with that. Osama became extremely anti-American.

All the subsequent attacks--the two WTC attacks, the Pentagon, the Cole, Khobar Towers--were designed to force the US to leave Saudi soil.

That's what we did to Osama.

[Toots]

13. When "they" attacked us

We need to keep killing Iraqis so we don't appear weak so "they" will attack us again....:shrug: "they" don't seem to like us very much I guess....

[Roland99]

15. I don't have a blogspot account but I'd post this:

thetruthisthelight,

First off, yes. The truth *is* the light. Too bad you're a burned-out bulb.

You see, Clinton *did* do his job. Everyone involved in the actual bombing has been capture, tried, and convicted. No one knew about bin Laden until much later on.

I highly recommend you check out the PBS Frontline episode, The Man Who Knew:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/

[JohnnyCougar]

16. Thanks....

I'll use that if she comes back!