Looking at our foreign policy and all the lawmakers

[mmonk]

that seem to back "full spectrum dominance" and the 30 yr war plan, is anyone besides me worried about how deep the neocon ideological tentacles reach in our government and both parties? I'm wondering if things go well with Fitz, will it be the end of it or will we still be in a political fight for democracy here at home?

[Lerkfish]

1. there will never be an end with the neocons.

because they want "american global leadership", or world domination, and they have the oil companies and the military industrial complex behind them.

Just like the same jerks we're dealing with now were in power back when Reagan was president, and just like Ollie North and G. Gordon Liddy are still around, adulated by fawning brownshirt sycophants, we will always have the neocons around.

the price of freedom is unflagging diligence.

[mmonk]

3. I'm also wondering if the public

will ever see through the political rhetoric or the lack of debate on great matters by the media. It's going to take a long time for me to feel comfortable about the country or the future.

[afdip]

2. they have always been there . . . . just going

by a new sobriquet these days and a little more visible, having been able to crawl out of their holes with dubya the demigod as their leader.

[mmonk]

4. Yes, but now they are considered sane

by too many lawmakers. This could give them lasting power and Plamegate just a temporary setback.