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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:18 AM
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Outing Plame was illegal, people. HELLO!
:rant:

Why do you think they kept us in the dark for years?

Why to you think Rove did not just say "Yeah, I know who she was" and get done with it?

Why do you think Rove and Libby plan to resign if something happens?

Why didn't they just confess if it was not illegal?

:rant:
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:23 AM
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1. depends on what you mean by "illegal...."
:rofl: :hi:
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:27 AM
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2. What we can hammer in to the RW is 'Breach of National Security'
... since they're so big on keeping the Homeland safe and all that militaristic jingo ...
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Tummler Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:38 AM
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3. Yep
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 08:40 AM by Tummler
If Fitzgerald has credible evidence that these chumps knew Plame's CIA employment was a secret -- for example, the "top secret" sections of the State Department memo, Novak's deliberate use of the term "operative," and even their own sneaky behavior in the original outing -- then they're toast:

18 U.S.C. sec. 793. Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information

**snip**

(d) Whoever, lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

(e) Whoever, having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer--

Shall be fined not more than $10,000 or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

(g) If two or more persons conspire to violate any of the foregoing provisions of this section, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each of the parties to such conspiracy shall be subject to the punishment provided for the offense which is the object of such conspiracy.

Sources:
http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/24/193622/97
http://www.fas.org/sgp/isoo/sf312.html

:patriot:
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lateo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:49 AM
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4. Something even worse about the outing of Plame...
And I'm not suprised this isn't getting more time on the airwaves...when Plame was outed so was the CIA front company she worked for. This put huge CIA assets at risk, and or, destroyed them.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 09:06 AM
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5. Can Somebody Please explain to me
WHY are the RW talking heads are saying she had to have worked oversears in the past 5 years - else she wasn't "covert" under some definition?

They've got the "desk jockey" thing down too. I have yet to hear any mention of Brewster Jennings - is it a fact that she worked for this company? Pardon my ignorance here.
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 09:11 AM
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6. thats the proof
that she was covert.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 12:41 PM
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7. Self-Kick
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