The Silence of the Dems

[berni_mccoy]

After reading this:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5161151

It occurred to me that for a LONG LONG time, the Dems have been quiet about a great many issues.

It's been extremely frustrating. But now, it looks like the Dems have been waiting patiently for the right moment...

As in the original Star Wars Deathstar approach:

"Wait for it... WAIT FOR IT..."

Our time is now and I do believe we will hear a LOUD VOICE BOOMING in response to the CULTURE OF CORRUPTION coming to a head in the PLAMEGATE INDICTMENTS.

In fact the Dem leaders have been strategizing (sorry don't have link, but read the article yesterday). They have a plan. I have faith (restored) that they will be delivering some serious knock-out punches.

The Dems have systematically allowed the neocons to destroy themselves in this case. The repubs kept trying to spin a broken top. Now their hypocrisy is CLEAR AS DAY and when TOONS have picked up on it, you know it's in the minds of every American. First, they tried simple lies... unfortunately, they neglected to consider that lying to a prosecutor under oath is a crime. Then, trying to dismiss charges as technicalities after claiming those very charges were TREASONOUS for Clinton was one of the DUMBEST moves. But the DUMBEST MOVE OF ALL is the NeoCon attempt to SWIFTBOAT Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald. DO YOU REALLY WANT TO PISS OFF THE MAN WHO IS ABOUT TO DISMANTLE YOUR LEADERSHIP. Fitzgerald was likely considering doing it the easy way or the hard way... well guess what STUPID REPUBS: You just made up his mind!

Your realization of the real trouble you are in is like waking up to Hannibal Lector feeding you your own brain.

Well, it's been not so nice living under your neocon agenda. I won't be sorry to see you all go to jail.

To the Dems: Good Job!

To the GOP: Good Night and Good Riddance.

[Selatius]

1. I'm sorry, but I'm not going to pat the Dems on the back just yet

People were saying the same thing with the Kerry campaign after the crap in Ohio. Days passed, and they still kepted insisting, still kept apologizing for Kerry's lack of movement on the issue of fraud being raised on the ground in Ohio and other places, and nothing happened. They said, "He must be strategizing, waging a stealth war in the background," and other stuff. Why the hell should I give credit before the performance the second time around?

[Joe Chi Minh]

4. It would be make Fitz's job a shade harder,

had the Dems gone on the attack before. As it is they have been caught "bang to rights", BY THE CRIMINAL LAW, in villainy that is right off the scale. And the beauty is that the law, like engineering, is essentially technical by nature. Kind of mechanistic even.

So denuded of all justification are they, that every hypocritical ploy they try on now, to spin it all against Fitz, just seems more and more laughable. Particularly the spin about politicising the law. I dare say the Dem leaders will know when to move on them.

[KoKo]

9. Not just the Kerry Campaign it goes back to "Selection 2000" where we

were told "Dems have a Plan...Daschle is just waiting for the right moment....yadda, yadda, yadda.

I think Dems in Congress are boxed in by their vote on the Iraq Resolution. Like Tom Friedman...they can't really recant and be believable.
Without power...there's not much they can do. With the M$M controlled, only the Liberman/Biden types can be heard. With all the push to turn Dems to the Right...only Donna Brazille can be invited on discussion panels.

I think we have a long way to go before Dems can be heard...and we have so few progressive Dems...plus ones that are "untainted" by selling out their own party. :shrug:

Sadly, we have to hope that we can regain the House or Senate in '06. Then the Left of the Party has to really push hard to start to steer in a new direction.... The Black Caucus should be supported. And, Henry Waxman has the goods on all the Repugs. Let the Investigations BEGIN...Waxman could be his own special prosecutor with Conyers by his side.

[3trievers]

10. Just me

I would stand and say I made the most terrible vote to justify this war because I believed the administrations claims (now proven to be lies).I would like to apoligize to our military,my constituents and the American people for believing this corrupt administration and I take full responsibility for my naivete.For this I am truly sorry.

[KoKo]

15. People "outside" of good "moral conscience" like you and me would do

that. But, sadly, NOT our "seasoned" politicians. They are always looking to cover their butt when their finger isn't in the wind. Unless one is a Repug today...where the butt is always covered and the finger is put in the wind by a DeLay/Frist or other "power broker."

The Repugs are falling apart though...and soon they might have to go back to their own individual "political sense" about "butt coverings and fingers in the wind to test." :D I can't wait for that day...

Abramoff/Christian Coalition/Ridenauer's use of Senior Citizens Mail Scares for Donations....ALL OF IT!

[Loonman]

2. The problem is:

Republicans have bad ideas.
Democrats have NO ideas.

[hippiechick]

3. Why do we always WAIT and REACT ?

... the GOP has made hay for the past 10 years by being on the OFFENSIVE. Regardless of whether their attack is fact-based or not, they're out there, stirring and spewing when they even SENSE something is in the water.

The Dems sit back and wait for an action from the GOP, then they REact with an invariably timid statement or two that makes page 46 of the dailies.

Where are our TEETH ???

[porphyrian]

5. Let's replace their asses.

I hope other Democrats run in 2006.

[seabeyond]

6. have they been silent? are they just NOT being heard?

i want to know. you tell me. because i have heard for the last 10 months ( i just counted) all the dems have said. i have heard them talk these issues. they are not shrinking violets in what they say

so,......are they not saying anything
or
are you not listening

[berni_mccoy]

8. Good question, either way, there is beauty

If the Dems were intentionally silent... then they did the right thing by NOT POLITICIZING a criminal investigation.

If the Repubs silenced them through control of media, then the IRONY is simply beautiful.

I am listening to the few hew speak out (Boxer, Conyers, et al), but they rarely get the attention they deserve; they hardley ever get a platform that the majority of Americans will hear.

Look at the Sunday talk show lineups... it's like they give 1 dem 1 spot for an entire month -- a token.

[elehhhhna]

7. You'd better be right or the Dem party is over...

I suspect you are--it's hard to argue and fight (which is all the Creeps can do) when nobody engages.

[Az]

11. Sorry, it took time to get here, it's going to take time to get out

The problem is one of process. The Dems we have in place came about by playing the soft spoken nonliberal card. They have not spoken up during times of trouble. If they all of a sudden jump up and champion something they never fought for before people will simply see them as opportunists.

Its going to take time. We need to grow champions not appeasers.

[mod mom]

12. I have a problem with them still not admitting their support of Iraq was

a bad idea. They should just admit they were given bad info from the WH and they regret their vote.

I also have serious issues with their promise to make sure every vote would count in '04 and not be willing to stand behind a call for a full investigation. I no longer consider myself a straight party Dem but an independent who is willing to consider third party candidates (in the past this was never an option for me).

While I agree "you don't shoot a dying man", I would not say Good Job to the Dems. there are many in Dem leadership positions who value their ties to corporations over their voting base. We nned real reform within the Dem party.

[Lorien]

14. You took the words right off of my keyboard

:thumbsup:

[rocktivity]

13. Remember how well waiting worked with the Schiavo case

Terri Schiavo was supposed to give the GOP another trifecta: Jeb would make his national debut and take his first step toward the White House, George would make his first payment to the Christi-taliban, and DeLay would be cleansed of his ethical sins.

But through either reasoned analysis or dumb luck, the Dems noticed that only 20% of the country was on the Bush Empire's side in the matter. Open support of Schiavo would have had the media calling the Dems Republican-lites; open opposition would have have the media calling them culture-of-death worshippers. Instead, they announced that government should not get involved in family medical decisions, then broke out the popcorn.

With no Dems to blame one way or the other, the media could only whine "Why didn't the Dems do more?" because the alternative was talking about Jeb's attempt to circumvent a federal court order by abducting Terri from her hospice, George's cutting his vacation to sign "Terri's Law" a week after allowing Baby Sun Hudson to die, and DeLay's having unplugged his comatose (NOT brain-dead) father's life support years earlier. Better yet, there was nothing for the media to broadcast except the freeper Jesus-freak show that took place outside the hospice, which mortified moderate Christians and moderate voters alike.

With the exception of appointing Judge Roberts, it's been downhill for Bush ever since. Now the curtain for second act is about to rise, and once again, the media has no Dem targets. Merry Fitz-mas, treason's greetings, and start popping that corn again!

:popcorn:
rocknation