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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:13 PM
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FEDERAL GRAND JURY=4TH BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.
From citizenspook, http://citizenspook.blogspot.com/2005/08/treasongate-federal-grand-jury-fourth.html#links

UNITED STATES CITIZENS SITTING AS FEDERAL GRAND JURORS ARE THE FOURTH BRANCH OF THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.


And quoting Scalia (yes, Antonin "quack quack" Scalia)

"In fact, the whole theory of {the grand jury's} function is that it belongs to no branch of the institutional Government, serving as a kind of buffer or referee between the Government and the people. See Stirone v. United States, 361 U.S. 212, 218 (1960); Hale v. Henkel, 201 U.S. 43, 61 (1906); G. Edwards, The Grand Jury 28-32 (1906). Although the grand jury normally operates, of course, in the courthouse and under judicial auspices, its institutional relationship with the Judicial Branch has traditionally been, so to speak, at arm's length. Judges' direct involvement in the functioning of the grand jury has generally been confined to the constitutive one of calling the grand jurors together and administering their oaths of office. See United States v. Calandra, 414 U.S. 338, 343 (1974); Fed.Rule Crim.Proc. 6(a). (504 U.S. 36, 48) "


And what is the makeup of the "Fitzgerald" Grand jury?

from http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/leakcase719

In the new issue of Time magazine, reporter Matthew Cooper writes that he testified before a federal grand jury last week -- a panel that was predominantly black and overwhelmingly female.

"Grand juries are in the business of handing out indictments, and their docility is infamous," Cooper writes. "A grand jury, the old maxim goes, will indict a ham sandwich if a prosecutor asks it of them.

"But I didn't get that sense from this group of grand jurors. They somewhat reflected the demographics of the District of Columbia," he wrote. "The majority were African-American and were disproportionately women. ... These grand jurors did not seem the types to passively indict a ham sandwich. I would say one-third of my 2-1/2 hours of testimony was spent answering their questions, not the prosecutor's."

(snip)

"Most sat in black vinyl chairs with little desks in rows that were slightly elevated, as if it were a shabby classroom at a rundown college. A kindly African-American forewoman swore me in, and when I had to leave the room to consult with my attorneys, I asked her permission to be excused, not the prosecutor's, as is the custom."


The GRAND JURY is in control. We are NOT waiting for Fitzgerald to hand down indictments.

We are awaiting the decision of the 4th branch of government, which in this case is comprised, in large part, of African-American Women.

Oh sweet, sweet karma.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:16 PM
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1. Nominated!
:kick:
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:19 PM
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2. K and R
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:20 PM
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3. GAO = 5th Branch of Government?
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yodermon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:22 PM
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5. Interesting theory,
but do they have any authority besides auditing and issuing statements/opinions/recommendations?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Accounting_Office
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:02 PM
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8. They have objectivity. Which makes them a rarity in these cronyistic
times.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:29 PM
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11. Actually the Fed IMO
is the fifth...all that despite being neither Federal, nor holding any reserve, nor being actually part of ANY government. It has the power of a branch of government.

But clearly the Grand Jury is the voice of the people and is the branch of last resort, and only if it can navigate the numerous hurdles and roadblocks usually set in it's path by the Judical branch.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:20 PM
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4. And I think they are people
who know the importance of what they are doing. Thanks goes to all the grand jurors for their work and their attention and their dedication.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:31 PM
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6. KICK AND NOMINATED
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 01:40 PM
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7. I think it's also important to remember that the only deadline in ...
... this investigation, to date, is the term of the currently impaneled Grand Jury. That term is set to expire on Friday, the 28th of October, 2005, as everyone knows. Nothing prevents Mr. Fitzgerald from requesting an extension. Nothing prevents him from impaneling an additional Grand Jury(ies). The letters appointing him to his position and clarifying the scope of his position do not set a term limit on his investigation.


Peace.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:03 PM
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9. If the Lord of Irony is awake
most of the jurors are also gay.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 02:14 PM
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10. Recommended. nt.
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