wanpete
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Tue Oct-25-05 01:59 PM
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What's up with all the Fitzgerald pessimism today on the DU?? |
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This is really getting me down guys. Positive energy, positive thoughts, and a healthy heaping of belief in the justice system and the professionalism of the prosecutor would be a breath of fresh air today.
:thumbsup:
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Tue Oct-25-05 01:59 PM
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1. I think it's a collective case of nerves. n/t |
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Tue Oct-25-05 01:59 PM
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2. rawstory stole fitzmas |
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:00 PM
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:03 PM
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10. said that he's only indicting two people only for perjury |
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according to their "sources." though they did issue a clarification to include conspiracy charges. it just takes some time to raise people's spirits.
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:07 PM
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15. another post noted... |
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Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 02:11 PM by stillcool47
that indictments are charges and one indictment for one charge of crime can have several people listed, such as Tom Delay. The one indictment for conspiracy charged Tom Delay, Jim Ellis, and the one other guy. :bounce: adding some links... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5165241http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0928051delay1.html
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:00 PM
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3. I tell y'all y'all it's sa-bo-taaaaaage. n/t |
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:01 PM
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I can't stand it! I know you planned it! |
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:01 PM
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5. It's called an anti-climax. |
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We'll need to drop ten and punt.
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:03 PM
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11. I've had those, and they're not fun |
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;) In all seriousness though, I think alot of it has to do with the RawStory (1 maybe, 2 indictments) lead. We're all hyped up and have our hopes hanging by a thread and along comes "Fitzmas Interruptus".
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:02 PM
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7. All this talk about 22 Indictments has everyones hopes up |
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Lets hope for one or two indictments then if their are more it will be like icing on the cake.
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:05 PM
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13. The moment I saw that "22 indictments" thing, I got a sense of dread. |
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Because if it's anything less than that, GD will bemoan how Fitz "sold us out" and whatnot.
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:02 PM
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8. I think many of us are feeling a little bit of the deja vu resulting from |
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the dashed hopes of last year's election.
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:02 PM
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9. Raw story got our hopes up |
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Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 02:03 PM by Verve
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wanpete
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:05 PM
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14. Is Raw Story truly reputable. It appears to me that they do an awful |
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lot of sensationalizing and have not always been on target. Really, who actually knows what Fitzgerald is going to do beside Fitz? I think we all need to take a collective breath and do something constructive and wait for the actual news. I trust Fitzgerald.
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:05 PM
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He will...He won't...He will. When one door closes another one opens, but hallways are a bitch.
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:22 PM
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17. Me, I am OPTIMISTIC. Thanks for the positive thread. n.t |
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:25 PM
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18. Consider who the Raw Story source might be |
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Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 02:29 PM by longship
Is it Fitz? No!
Is it Fitz's staff? No!
Is it a grand jury member? Not unless they want to go to jail for contempt, it isn't!
The only sources that remain are lawyers and staffers for people who have talked to the GJ.
Consider this, also. All the rest of the information indicates that Fitz has expanded the scope his investigation throughout his tenure as Spec Pros.
It is in the interest of the WH to minimize this thing. These guys are clever but they are not very smart. They are going to paint a picture where there are few indictments and small scope. But we know that the scope is larger than just Rove/Libby.
We have to keep the faith and wait. We have no reason to believe that this Raw Story report is the entire deal. It may contain facts, but we just don't know for sure. The source could be spinning; the source may be lying.
There may indeed be few indictments, or there may be many. I wouldn't be going to the bank on this RawStory information.
on edit: Don't forget. The GJ could vote on additional indictments this week before Fitz makes his announcements. It ain't yet over.
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:33 PM
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20. Right. Also remember that it would be a media COUP to break this story |
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Everyone wants to be the scoop-er not the scoop-ee --including (if not especialy) Raw Story.
I am taking a wait-n'-see approach.
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:37 PM
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Raw Story may be in part true. They just might not have the whole story. Isn't that likely?
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:29 PM
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19. I'd like them ALL to go to jail --but I'll settle for just Karl Rove! |
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...and with a smile on my face.
It's more than I thought we'd get with the criminal Repugs in control of virtually EVERYTHING.
I have my French champagne standing by --one bottle for every person indicted will be consumed by me and my friends on Fitzmus.
:) :) :) :) :)
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Tue Oct-25-05 02:38 PM
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22. I don't think it's pessimism, it's more like... |
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Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 02:42 PM by Javaman
Hoping for that x-mass present you really wanted but didn't find it under the tree, so they are depressed and a little pissed, that is until, daddy(Da Fitz man) pulls one last gift from behind the couch (tomorrow).
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