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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:44 PM
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Mel Goodman (ex CIA) says Fitz is going to the heart of the Iraq War
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/10/25/1412248

It's going deeper than just the "outing" of a CIA agent.

Says Fitzgerald is actually doing the work that the Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee should have been doing.

Of course the investigation into how this administration corrupted intelligence in the run-up to war has been stonewalled by Pat Roberts republican from Kansas, Chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee

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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:45 PM
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1. Hope this is true!
From your keyboard to the ears God.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:46 PM
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2. This is what I actually pray is true and will happen.
From a tiny acorn... I want these miserable people exposed, Roberts included!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:48 PM
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3. Gee, do you suppose
we can take Roberts out too? He could do about anything and still get elected here. A major thing like this just might tarnish him enough that we can get rid of him.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:55 PM
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7. Ohhh...please, oh please, oh please.
I'm going to do everything I can to support a candidate to knock him out. We need to rally the West and South parts of the state. But, we'll never do it without Topeka and Wichita. We know Lawrence goes blue and JoCo has a fair share of blue. JoCo is flippable. Especially now that Paul Morrison is running for AG as a Democrat. Honestly, I respect the job he has done here in JoCo. He's a law man, that's for sure, but even he realizes that Phil Kline has just gone too damn far. He's a lifer Repug and just switched over to run for the Dems - announced today. Although, I get the impression you probably already know that!
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:09 PM
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8. I did read that
and am not sure what to think. He sounded good and just about anyone would be preferable to Kline. It is so difficult to even find Democrats to run against these incumbents. If Roberts is damaged enough and we can find someone good to run against him we could win it. I don't know why this state votes so often the way it does because from the places I go I don't get the impression that they are all that sold on the Republicans but just want a good person regardless of party. We will have to work hard to get a good candidate.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 09:10 PM
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18. Lawrence goes blue for sure--
And that is where I live.
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Scout1071 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 09:18 PM
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21. And,
Where I work. Or where I work when I'm not working from home.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:17 AM
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30. Cool. We are neighbors.
I teach at KU.
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KSLeftyMom Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 08:54 AM
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29. From your mouth to God's ears...
I HATE that he is one of our own. A lot of Kansans are conservatives...but I think he even makes conservatives look bad. ugh.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:50 PM
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4. These indictments are proxy for impeachment, at this point.
Nominated.
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Lena inRI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:51 PM
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5. Is Colin Powell state's witness?
:think:
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:16 PM
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9. Gawd I hope so.
I hope he can call Sibel too.

-Hoot
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 10:07 PM
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25. Yes. and maybe
Larry Franklin? He is the arrested spy for AIPAC. He must have a lot of damning info, with regard,in particular, to the forged letter on the Niger uranium supply to Hussein crucial faked evidence for the 16 words inserted into Bush's State of the Union, 2003, address.:popcorn:
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unschooler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:54 PM
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6. Maybe now the press will be humiliated enough to do its job.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:18 PM
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10. Please, please, please, please, please.
Let it be so.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:23 PM
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11. WOW! This whole article is GREAT! Recommended.
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writes2000 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:33 PM
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12. Wow, I'm stunned after reading that interview. Recommended.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:36 PM
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13. Yah, Pat Roberts will have his day......OBSTRUCTION of JUSTICE!!!
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:47 PM
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16. good take out that sob roberts!!
i used to live in johnson county..and i know from a neighbors brother in law what a filthy crook roberts is.,..why are people in kansas so damn rethug..they don't live it or act it..they are not real conservatives...except in pockets around the state...how do so many benefit from rethugs?? they don't..i could never figure it out...hell all my neighbors husbands were all out screwing around...i never lived anywhere where i saw so much adultry...and i have lived alot of places!!

at one time 9 of the men in my little neighborhood from my street..in johnson county.. i caught out screwing around...i had to get outta there!! ..i thought it was in the water!! or an epidemic!!
and damn the women were the dumbest!!..stepford wives...i had to leave there for L.A....where at least if the men are screwing around the women admit it!!

and i am not kidding about this!!...giggling here...i could never get over it!!..even the most religous one i caught !!

shaking head here....fly

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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:40 PM
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14. Melvin Goodman, thanks for your analysis!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:46 PM
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15. I hope they bust the Senators and House members who...
Edited on Tue Oct-25-05 08:46 PM by Hubert Flottz
obstructed investigations of the bogus reasons for the War in Iraq, to cover up Bush's lies and war crimes. I'd LOVE to see Pat Roberts in orange.
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 09:05 PM
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17. Sweet music...
COL. LAWRENCE WILKERSON: What I saw was a cabal between the Vice President of the United States, Richard Cheney, and the Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld, on critical issues that made decisions that the bureaucracy did not know were being made.

AMY GOODMAN: That was Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson. Mel Goodman, former C.I.A. analyst, your response?

MELVIN GOODMAN: Well, “cabal” happens to be the right word. This is about four or five people who took the government into their own hands, who didn't want to discuss policy at the table, because they knew there was some differences within the State Department, within the C.I.A., in the way we were going to war. They knew there were differences about the number of troops that would be needed. And that's why Paul Wolfowitz and others were so dismissive of professional military officers, such as General Shinseki, who said it’s an inadequate number of troops.

But the question is not the number of troops. That’s, you know, how many angels can dance on the head of a pin? It's about whether we should have gone to war or not. And, of course, we should not have gone to war. This is an illegal and immoral war. And I think when Wilkerson is talking about a cabal, and he's talking about a dysfunctional government, this is exactly what he was talking about.



Please let this investigation go there. Let is be shown that it wasn't only the bypassing the CIA, but that during the same period, the FBI was complicit in covering up dealings via Turkey.

-Hoot
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StaggerLee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 09:13 PM
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19. What a read!
I was eating a big ol' bowl of double noodle soup and not taking my eyes off of it as I read. It's a wonder I didn't get most of it down my front.

Recommended!

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slybacon9 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 09:17 PM
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20. love the ending...
"So this is what we're talking about, and I wish Richard Cohen and Jim Hoagland and Nicholas Kristof and John Tierney would read all of the evidence before they worry about protecting leaks and sources. Don't worry, there will always be leaks, and there will always be sources. But we have to get to the bottom of this, and this is what Patrick Fitzgerald is doing. All credit should go to him."

Ya. Eat it ya bastards.


Screw the NYT and their dumb ass "Times Select" Bullshit too by the way.
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confludemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 09:58 PM
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22. Geezus, so we're in Costa-Gravras "Z" territory then? Look out! n/t
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 10:00 PM
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23. Mel Goodman? Is he married to Amy?
I see the link is Democracy Now. Are they married? Related?
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 11:26 PM
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28. I don't think so....I believe she is single...
I know she has a brother who is also a journalist.

She is my heroine.
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 10:03 PM
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24. Thanks for the referal. Excellent article and interview !! --eom
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 10:19 PM
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26. History books will call Roberts a traitor to the republic.
Of course, this is just another traitor to throw on the pile of traitors in the Bush administration.
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 10:22 PM
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27. Nice. K&R.
n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 11:18 AM
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31. Wow!
I hope so! :bounce: So who knows who's going to be indicted!
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:23 PM
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32. The tree is gonna shake
And the rotten fruit is gonna fall.
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