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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:47 AM
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Answer this Canadian a question;
With all these indictments in a couple cases.... is it just a matter of time before they get to shrub?
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:48 AM
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1. His testimony wasn't under oath.
How can they pin anything on him based on that?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:49 AM
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3. I'm thinking paper trails
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:51 AM
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5. Ah, you're assuming he's reasonably literate.
Gotcha.
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:51 AM
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6. ...
:-)
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:01 AM
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13. If he LIED to him... (as he does/did all his losing waste of a life...
to everybody around him)... Could lying (even when not under oath) to Fitz be some sort of 'Obstruction Of Justice'? Just asking.
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:19 AM
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17. but even though it wasn't under oath..........
........if he lied, it still could be seen as an obstruction of justice. Especially for someone who took an oath that he would uphold the law.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:34 AM
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20. Aha!
Thanks!
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:17 AM
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21. No comfort there.
Oath, schmoath.

It's illegal to lie to a federal prosecutor.
It's also illegal to lie to a grand jury.

Regardless of oath.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:48 AM
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2. not really sure how much that piece of shit knows
I mean come on HEyHEY, he THINKS he's prez but really, isn't he just playing one on TV ?
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:50 AM
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4. But with the delay matter and this - something HAS to happen
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:52 AM
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7. HOT TUB TIME !!!
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HEyHEY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:53 AM
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9. eewww, that's dirty water
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:07 AM
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16. IMAGINE IF YOU THREW IN SOME MORE REPUBLICANS
*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA*
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:53 AM
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8. Maybe
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 01:28 AM by enigmatic
But if you think Reagan was out of touch during his second term, W is out of touch in his to the 3rd power.

Cheney's the guy that will be the one that goes down out of the two; W is just window dressing. He's been exposed as a failure, and will be known as a failure (and a corrupt one)by historians and others; that might be enough for me.

Though I won't complain if he gets the frog march, too..
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tulsakatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:22 AM
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18. and remember Rove is known as Bush's Brain..........
.......and we now know that Cheney and Rumsfeld were responsible for Iraq policy and the cooked 'intelligence' regarding Iraq.

Just imagine what will Bush do without Rove and Cheney in the background guiding him?
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enigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:27 AM
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19. Just a Meat Puppet
That's all he'll be, or has been. It'll be something to see, that's for sure..
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:57 AM
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10. Could be
Word here is that * is cracking up. Problem is, he has the Launch Codes:scared:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 12:59 AM
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11. We can only hope.
Thanks for your concern.

I don't know how that so-called man is allowed to run free as of current date. Karma can catch up. We pray.
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jpgray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:01 AM
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12. Look at the Reagan administration
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 01:02 AM by jpgray
Eliot Abrams was convicted of lying to Congress during the Iran/Contra scandal, yet he is currently director of the office for democracy, human rights and international operations at the National Security Council. A WH post that is not subject to Senate confirmation, but still. Odds are this will never touch Bush, and won't adversely effect anyone in his administration in any permanent way. I can always hope, though. :)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:02 AM
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14. Forgery straight into the WH
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 01:03 AM by sandnsea
The info that the forgery went to Hadley means it went right into the White House. That boy may be in some serious caca which is why it is rumored that he has the canary blues. If that's the case, Condi and Bush can't be far behind. She's not taking the fall for
A-N-Y-B-O-D-Y.
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 01:06 AM
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15. depends mostly on TPB
there is a nice Ted Rall piece over in Editorials that lays out how broken this empire is. From that perspective, the boy dictator is pretty untouchable.

Winter, the new bankruptcy laws, and the $8 trillion debt could cause TPB to decide it's time to unseat the boy dictator and then it could be done, but as long as we remain semi-functional as a nation and there is money to be drained from the coffers, he'll be able to survive.

It's not like we have real elections so that we the people could actually vote him out of office, or get a useful Congress that would impeach him...

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:27 AM
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22. It's A Long Road To Impeachment
If it's shown that boooosh knew and/or participated in the Plame affair, the political toll will be intense. It will turn next year's Congressional elections into a referendum on his staying in office and the entire Iraq mess.

This will especially be the case should there be indictments that will lead to high profile trials next year that could be very, very embarassing...rehashing a lot of the frenzy we're going through now, but on a higher profile.

The question put to voters will be if they want a change, they will vote for Democrats...and the Democrats have to play this groundswell of new-found opportunity wisely. Running on impeachment alone didn't win it for the Repugnicans in '98 and it won't for the Democrats in '06. It's putting all the corruption of this regime and all it's proxies on the ballot. If the result is overwhelming, then there should be Democratic majorities where investigations and the real track to impeachment can occur. Not before.
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