Is "Selective Breeding" evolution or Intelligent Design?

[Toots]

Everyone knows about the different breeds of dogs and how man "created" them. I know the specie Dog is still the same with the same DNA as it always has been but the varieties vary over the years. Is this a form of evolution helped along by mankind or would this be considered intelligent design? Or neither? :shrug:

[bryant69]

1. Sometimes I think I ought to figure out what ID actually believes

about Genetics. One would assume that they have a basic understand that evolution does happen through selective breeding or what not.

I would assume that they are mostly talking ID as an explanation for the origin of species back in the dawn of time; but, so far, I haven't actually exposed myself to their thought.

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[slackmaster]

2. It could be viewed as natural selection

Unless one takes the view that everything human volition leads us to do isn't natural.

I lean toward treating us no differently than any other animal. Certain ant species have domesticated aphids in a mutually beneficial relationship, so why should our symbiotic relationship with dogs be treated any differently?

:shrug:

[Mountainman]

3. In nature, if a trait helps a dog survive, the survivor passes on the trai

Breedeers do a similar thing only it is not natural and the trait is not one that is needed for survival. The breeders "put down" dogs that they fear would hurt what ever trait they are trying to promote. In nature, those without the survival traits die and do not pass on the weakness over time.

That's how I see it anyway. Evolution is just too evident to not believe it. ID is faith macerating as science. The problem is that those with faith cannot bring themselves to question their teachers. For that we all have to suffer?

[uberotto]

4. It's neither...

To stick with your dog analogy, Selective Breeding has given us breeds of dogs which are no longer able to reproduce without human intervention.

This is neither evolution or intelligent.

Selective Breeding could however be used as a good argument against Intelligent Design.

[dime.end]

5. not evolution

clearly an outside, intelligent agent created these changes.
If what is happened with dogs is evolution, then there is no reason to exclude God as a similar sort of agent.

When a tall humnan and a short human mate, they may create a different phenotype, but you don't call it evolution.

I guess you could call it micro-evolution, but I don't think that Darwin was referring to fact that there are different breeds of dog when he wrote Origin of the Species.