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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:17 PM
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What is Randi Rhodes babbling about?
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 02:17 PM by merwin
She's talking about how much she hated the Colbert Report (new spinoff satire show from The Daily Show on immediately after The Daily Show). The reason she hated it was apparently because it is satirical and Rosa Parks was the topic of one of his satirical rants on the show.

She's taking it awefully seriously. Usually Randi doesn't anger me... IN fact, I love listening to her, but she put down a show that is basically an extension of The Daily Show for no apparent reason.

Oh well...
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:17 PM
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1. think he should interview her. Hahahahah
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patrioticliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:18 PM
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2. And she'll do it the whole show. And I won't be listening
Listening to the last hour of Stephanie right now..might tunein for Randi later but likely will switch to Ed so he can talk about baseball or something. Ha.

Randi is so uninformed and retarded on some things. She thought anyone really cares about Janet Parshall and she has a huge ego. Get back to the news. Rove. Miers. Wilma. Etc.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:19 PM
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6. She is on Wilma and FEMA's on purpose lack of response
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lizlib Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:18 PM
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3. maybe...
Its because he said 'Rosa Parks' and then the word overrated popped up on the screen.

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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:18 PM
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4. Somebody needs to clue her in
it is a bad imitation of O'Reilly and a couple other FOX shows
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zorro349 Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:21 PM
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8. the show is hilarious
i don't care if colbert is 100% republican in real life (and who the hell know's if he is)..
the show is satire and very very funny about it...
i mean saying rosa parks was overrated b/c she should have just started her own bus company and let capitalism work it out is just like something a nutcase republican would say behind closed doors.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:19 PM
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5. Jealous
Much, Rhandi?
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:20 PM
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7. Colbert is no John Stewart. And the Rosa Parks things was detestable.
If it was irony, Colbert didn't bring it off: arguing against civil disobedience or any other breaking of unjust laws. Yes, he did post a satirical element, posting 'DWI' as the word when he mentioned himself. But coming just after Parks' death, Cobert deserved the boos he got. Playing an egocentric, arrogant fool as he does, he should be more careful to not appear to actually be one.
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lizlib Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:22 PM
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10. I agree
slightly shocked even if it was done in a satirical way...

His point at the end was 'don't try to change anything wait for them to change'

talking about looking up to a criminal who broke the law. he crossed a line until he got to the end.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:25 PM
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14. IT'S SATIRE!
The whole show is satire. Colbert is a Liberal doing a satirical show mocking Faux. Why is that so hard to understand?
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:26 PM
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15. I didn't see the show...
...that Randi was talking about but I think that you might be correct about the timing thing. It might have simply been too soon to make the joke that he was making. Reminds me of that thing that Alan Alda said in a Woody Allen movie: Comedy= Tragedy + Time.

Not enough time has passed after Parks's death for jokes.
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:28 PM
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19. Actually, the person who originally said comedy = tragedy + time is
Lenny Bruce. He said it in response to getting audience flack for doing a bit about Jackie Kennedy "hauling ass to save ass" during the motorcade in Dallas.

Thanks for letting me say that.
:hi:
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:31 PM
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22. Alan Alda ripped him off!!!!
I didn't know that Lenny had said it first. Thanks for the correction. The first time I ever heard it was from Alda. Although, now that I think about it he might have been quoting Lenny Bruce.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:58 PM
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35. Johnny Carson used to do a schtick every so often
Once a year or so, he would tell a LINCOLN joke, along the lines of that old chestnut, "Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?"

He would pause after a tepid response, look at the audience, and ask "Too soon???" Then he would get a huge laugh.

I will admit I was a person who was horrified in my youth by Lincoln jokes. It actually was too soon for me!!

The passage of time makes a huge difference, but I saw that bit Colbert did, and while it was not directed AT Rosa Parks (the bit had to do with how everyone freely uses her name to describe a "first"--as in "The Rosa Parks of golfing" to describe that female teen Asian golfer), her very recent passing made the whole attempt "too soon."

I was able to parse the difference, but it was an uneasy effort by Colbert at best.
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:24 PM
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38. It was too soon, and I think that's what made it shocking and funny.
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 03:24 PM by jayctravis
The Brady thing was just as shocking. Colbert is working on being the pundit you hate.

If Bill Clinton passed away, O'Reilly and Limbaugh and Hannity and Coulter and Ingraham wouldn't waste any time before tapdancing on the coffin.
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vi5 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:41 PM
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25. Uh...the show is a satire and mockery of the right wing talking heads
The only thing Colbert is making fun of is idiotic righ wing parrots such as Hannity and O'Reilly.
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:56 PM
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31. You need an emergency humor IV
He is playing an O'Reilly like character the biggest problem is that it is hard to spoof someone who is so crazy.

If you didn't get the joke then you shouldn't be allowed to watch Comedy Central.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:09 PM
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36. It Was Hysterically Funny. Colbert Is Brilliant & Randi Needs To STFU
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 03:13 PM by cryingshame
EVERYONE in the audience at the studio and home knew it was satire except, apparently Randi.
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:26 PM
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40. Right...Colbert was expecting the boos and the audience is
starting to learn to play along. I'm sure at some point he'll have an official audience chant of some kind.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 06:54 PM
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41. There's probably a big sign that tells the audience to laugh or boo :-)
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:19 PM
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37. Colbert was playing a right wing pundit.
He said she was "overrated" (in "the word") because of how people call the first someone of anything "the Rosa Parks of...". He then said how the young female Asian golfer (whose name escapes me) was being called the "Rosa Parks of golf", pointing out that Parks did it by breaking the rules (which then Colbert ranted about how lawbreakers shouldn't be honored...which parses out in the satire as actual support for Rosa Parks.)

He did get booed, but he's playing the role of someone who says offensive things like Michael Savage or Rush Limbaugh. Remember the first week when he called Brady a coward for supporting anti-gun legislation? That made my jaw drop open.

Daily Show proclaims to be "fake news" and has turned out to be one of the most informative actual news shows on. Colbert Report is parody and part of the joke is watching how wrong he gets facts and the satire of how he and pundits he's basing the show on twist everything around.

If you don't like, don't watch, obviously. Colbert is playing the role of what most liberals hate most, so he's doing it right.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:22 PM
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9. Does she not realize he is being sarcastic?
he is acting randy...
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:23 PM
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11. I love Randi but I listen to Big Ed!
He has his pulse on D.C.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:23 PM
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12. she did have a point that his show is new
And maybe he shouldnt have gone there until more people can feel him out.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:29 PM
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20. But most of the viewers of that show are Daily Show viewers...
and he's been on The Daily Show for a long time.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:24 PM
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13. Some people just aren't born with the "satire" gene.
They can't understand it. They don't get it. It confuses and enrages them.

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NoAmericanTaliban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:27 PM
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16. She does lose her focus sometimes & just rants & raves
about something or other that most listeners could care less about. I love her & think she is great, but I've turn her off when she gets in her 'moods'. Remember one show she spent most of the time talking about her boobs. Do what you do best Randi - bash the crap out of * & company.
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:27 PM
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17. Oh, come on...
If comedians and satirists never 'crossed the line', how would we know where 'the line' is?

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:28 PM
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18. Morning sedition "Welcome Liberal utopians with no sense of humor"
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PunkPop Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:30 PM
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21. It's called HUMOR.
He is a COMEDIAN - just playing a PART. It is a send-up of shows like The Factor. He is mocking assholes like O'lielly.

Randi's irritating. The people on here who are so outraged need to chill out.
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KyndCulture Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:34 PM
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23. Hey I love Colbert, but he was off last night, he wasn't funny.
Hate to agree with Randi bout that, but he was really not amusing last night.

Now Thursday nights show was HILARIOUS...

The word is Pussy as in Don't be one!

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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:53 PM
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29. I agree with last night.
I fell asleep. So far I have loved it but not last night.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:38 PM
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24. I loved Colbert but I was offended by the Parks bit.
I am glad Randi spoke about it.
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:48 PM
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27. I didn't like it either. I tried. I really tried, and I remember saying
to my wife as the skit was developing, that "I hope he goes somewhere with this." It fizzled in the end and being that it started off with the dramatic "Rosa Parks - Overated", it left a bad taste in my mouth even though I knew it was satire.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:50 PM
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28. I felt that way about the Brady bit too. Somewhat uncomfortable with it.
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:57 PM
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33. My joke was worse
Rosa Parks died today...ironically she was hit by a bus.

Colbert's best line? "Let the free market do what it does best, meet the needs of the disenfranchised"
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:44 PM
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26. I admit that I was slightly alarmed when Steve bought up Parks
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 02:57 PM by rocknation
and I heard a definite ripple of discomfort run through the audience. But the reason why my alarm was only slight was because I knew he wouldn't have given himself such a tough row to how if he couldn't pull it off. And he did exactly that by suggesting that Parks' efforts were overrated because they involved breaking the law when she simply could have started her OWN bus company! I wasn't offended at all, and I think he won over the vast majority of the audience, too.

:headbang:
rocknation
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Fight_n_back Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:54 PM
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30. The Parks thing was hilarious
"Let the free market do what it does best, meet the needs of the disenfranchised" "If you want to change the system, the best thing to do is wait until it changes itself"

funneee...
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:57 PM
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32. I thought it was funny as hell. Some people seem not to get satire at all
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SheilaT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 02:58 PM
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34. I thought Colbert was brilliant last night.
When he started riffing on Rosa Parks, I thought, Uh oh. And in my opinion he really did pull it off. He showed exactly how some dumb shit would really think, that she should have started her own bus company and let the system work itself out.

It was a very delicate balancing act, and it worked for me. But if someone just doesn't get satire, well, they should simply understand that they don't, and go on to other things. It's okay. I don't get jazz, so I simply go off and listen to something else of a jazz program comes on the radio. I don't get the Three Stooges, either, so I just skip them.

I've never listened to Randi Rhodes, so I hesitate to say anything, but it does sound as if she simply doesn't get satire, or certain kinds of satire.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:25 PM
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39. I don't think she got the joke.
I'm surprised. She's usually on top of that kind of sarcasm and satire.
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