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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:00 PM
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Jeff Gannon: "....and their Washington socializing was what “outed” her"

http://www.jeffgannon.com/archives/general/index.html#a000336

The backward Plame probe

Like everyone else inside the Beltway, I have been watching the leak probe investigation as it draws to a close. In lieu of reliable information coming from the secret proceedings of Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald and the Grand Jury, the Old Media has been repackaging various tidbits with more breathless speculation. It is clear what outcome it is rooting for.

For a variety of reasons, I have resisted commenting at any length about this whole affair, until now. The news services are reporting that the FBI was interviewing the Joe and Valerie Wilson’s neighbors this week to determine if her they knew of her association with the CIA before Robert Novak’s column was published – over two years ago.

The lead investigator, Jack Eckenrode, has been on the case since the beginning, conducting the first interview with me in March of 2004. The bureau’s 11th-hour mop up operation appears to be a CYA move by investigators who failed to address the central issue in the case from the outset. Valerie Plame’s “covert” status is at the heart of this matter. If she was not a secret agent at the time Novak wrote his piece, there is no leak, no crime. I believe there is sufficient evidence to conclude that she was not.

It was my questioning of Wilson in Fall 2003 about a memo that detailed a meeting at which Plame suggested her husband for the mission to Niger that brought agents to my door. Wilson denied his wife’s role in his selection. The CIA also tried to refute the account of a whistleblower who exposed a group within the agency that was actively engaged in undermining the Bush administration’s policy toward Iraq. In December 2003, the Washington Post ran a story that quoted unnamed sources claiming that the memo was a forgery and that the meeting never took place. It specifically singled out the news outlet that pubished my interview with the former ambassor during which I confronted him about the memo. The Senate Intelligence Committee confirmed the accuracy of the memo in its July 2004 report and chastised Wilson for his “misleading statements.”

It appears that indictments will be forthcoming in this case. Despite the distraction for the White House and the difficulty for those who will have to defend themselves against whatever charges might be filed, I am hoping for a trial where the roles of Wilson, Plame and CIA officials can be examined. It would probably confirm what I have been saying for some time, that a rouge group within a politicized and dysfunctional agency was conducting a covert operation against the White House. Some of this group’s leaders may be among those who left the CIA when Porter Goss took over.

The role of reporters should also be examined, particularly the Washington Post’s Walter Pincus. The New York Times wrote that the long-time Washington journalist “has earned the respect and envy of his colleagues for the government contacts he has cultivated….” He was one of the reporters that the CIA used to refute the INR document about the meeting where Plame offered up Wilson’s name for the trip to Africa. Accuracy in Media wrote a lengthy article on Pincus in 2002, his relationship to the CIA and his wife Ann’s position with the State Department as a Clinton appointee.

The Washington Post reporter who was in the Wilson’s home well before the alleged leak was to have occurred should also be questioned. He was doing an “in-depth” interview of Wilson, but it would be difficult to believe that he had no questions about his wife. This is not the conduct of a couple with a secret to protect.

The point of all of this is, the Washington journalism elites knew all about Wilson and his wife. Let me tell you about Washington, it’s a very small town, a company town. Everyone’s identity inside the Beltway is attached to who it is they work for. By all accounts, Plame has been stateside for the past six years, a disqualifying factor in the “covert” business. In the unlikely circumstance that she had still been classified as a secret agent, her marriage to the flamboyant, self-important, publicity-seeking Wilson and their Washington socializing was what “outed” her, not anyone at the White House.

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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:02 PM
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1. Why is this dolt still around?
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central scrutinizer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:03 PM
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5. they need dolts to launch their trial balloons
and see if anybody salutes - to mix some metaphors
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:06 PM
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20. if fitz indicts on "violation of Wilson's civil rights," maybe Jeffy will
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:10 PM
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25. You nailed the rationale quite succinctly, well done! n/t
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:02 PM
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2. This talking point that Gannon is pushing is months old.
Is this the best he has?

Sad, really.

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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:04 PM
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8. "For a variety of reasons, I have resisted commenting..."
he knows the indictments are coming, and now it's time to play the smear game...
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:03 PM
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3. A rouge group within a politicized and dysfunctional agency?
What, they going up against the lipstick and mascara groups from the White House?

Idiot!
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:04 PM
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10. you beat me to it! n/t
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:06 PM
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Is Miers still head of that Mascara group?
Nice catch!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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NYCGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:12 PM
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29. No, she's permanent CEO of the Eyeliner group!
:evilgrin:
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:03 PM
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4. Gannon is amazing
Not only does he still use his pseudonym, he still thinks people are interested in what he has to say.


Does he have any new cock shots on the web?
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punpirate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:07 PM
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22. Probably no new shots...
... since he got his weenie whacked by the bloggers. :)
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:04 PM
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6. Was she wearing her "I am a covert agent" button @ parties?
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 03:04 PM by emulatorloo
Guess Jeff is back in the saddle/payroll.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:04 PM
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7. the ROUGE group?
Honey - I know you hang with that crowd, but seriously....

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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:05 PM
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13. Hee hee hee!
Great minds!
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:05 PM
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16. Bwah...you beat me to it!
:toast:
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:15 PM
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31. Have a drink on me...
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plcdude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:04 PM
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9. now remember black is really white
and down is really up and catching is really pitching.
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:04 PM
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11. LOL! A rouge group?
"It would probably confirm what I have been saying for some time, that a rouge group within a politicized and dysfunctional agency was conducting a covert operation against the White House. Some of this group’s leaders may be among those who left the CIA when Porter Goss took over."


Oh well - so he can't spell.




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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:04 PM
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12. Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute...
I've heard this canard (that means duck, for non-French literate people) for long enough. I really have to point out this very basic fact that should be obvious to one and all here...

VALERIE PLAME'S SOCIALIZING WAS PART OF HER COVER.

Who would suspect someone wining and dining with a former US ambassador of being a NOC CIA agent? Who!?!

Wouldn't that have been the whole POINT of maintaining her in this role, where she could have been exposed by the slightest misstep, leading to the exposure of sensitive anti-WMD proliferation CIA operations?

Or am I totally off my rocker here?
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radwriter0555 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:10 PM
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27. Whuh? You mean all spies DON'T skulk about in trench coats with guns
up their skirts, strapped to a nubile, lithe and tanned, muscular thigh devoid of ANY cellulite whatsoever???

Honey, you need to watch more MOVIES. After all, as BLACKHAWK DOWN proved all hollywood movies are entirely accurate about ALL events they depict.

Valerie IS Angelina Jolie's twin, right?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:15 PM
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34. But wait, there's MORE!!!
If you have CHILDREN, you cannot POSSIBLY have NOC!!! See, once you have a kid or two, you just aren't "smart" enough, or "tough" enough, to operate under deep cover. Toss on that burka, honey, and get behind the desk, typing and filing!!!!

I am not kidding, the spinnners on the right are actually trotting round that rationale to suggest that she no longer had NOC status....!!!!!!
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:18 PM
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37. Whoa, stop it, radwriter0555.......
You got me going off on mental tangents.

Must stay focused. Must stay focused. Must stay focused......
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progressivebydesign Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:05 PM
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14. speaking of "breathless".. LOVE how little Jeff/James coins OLD media.
How utterly chic of the White House mouse.
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:05 PM
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15. wow, 713 words to say, I don't really know why
but I am a flamboyant, self-important, publicity-seeking has-been, spinning wildly in the vain hope that someone out there is actually still reading my drivel. If this shit is the New Media, no thanks, I'll stick with the old.
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apollo56 Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:06 PM
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17. Bad Male Hustler
I am surprised he is still writing to anyone? I knew he had a ad on a male for male sex site and sold his wears for money - so why does anyone listen to him with the morals of a mole?
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GOPisEvil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:06 PM
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18. Who cares what that man-whore thinks or says?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:06 PM
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19. A ROUGE group!! Illiterate 50 year old hookers shouldn't write.
Idiot asshole.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:17 PM
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36. Well, he has gotten rather fat of late, and grown what are termed
man boobs. Maybe he is going for a J. Edgar Hoover look, and his Freudian slip is showing????
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chalky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:07 PM
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21. Gannon really should stay away from topics that would require him to use
terms like, "leak", "probe", "affair", and "CYA".

I Beavis-and-Butthead laughed through this whole article.


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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:07 PM
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23. I see.
Everyone’s identity inside the Beltway is attached to who it is they work for.


So I guess it was common knowledge in the Beltway that he worked for MilitaryMuscle.com and M2M and whatever escort services he was involved with. I can see how he would be allowed into the White House press corps.
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apollo56 Donating Member (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:10 PM
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26. In bed with whom!!!!
Wonder whose bed he was in at the White House - makes you wonder?
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:16 PM
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35. In bed with some sleazy Republican.
I wouldn't be surprised to find out that they were having late-night sex and cocaine parties. Republicans just wanna have fun.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:08 PM
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24. What these dumb fuckers don't understand
Pardon my French, is cover for CIA agents is so good they could be anybody.

Could be your bus driver,
your next door neighbor,
the guy in the coffeeshop
an ambassadors' wife

You get the picture.
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dancingme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:11 PM
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28. Jeffy, have you paid those back taxes yet?
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 03:11 PM by dancingme
The state of Delaware would like the money.
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Loonman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:12 PM
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30. Where the cock shots, Jeffy?
That's what we want!
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:15 PM
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32. Be careful Jeffy, Fitz may not be done investigating all the fun and games
at the White House. You lookin' for another nice chat with those dashing FBI guys? And about that memo you did/didn't see but knew the contents of...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/7/6/95341/90908
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:15 PM
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33. What did Gannon know and when did he know it?
And how did he get it?

Republican Journalist Target of White House Subpoena

Talon News has learned that one of the journalists being targeted is Jeff Gannon, Washington Bureau Chief and White House correspondent for Talon News.

******

According to a subsequent Talon News story by Bobby Eberle regarding the Washington Post piece, "The Washington Post cites an unnamed source who says, 'The CIA is angry about the circulation of a still-classified document to conservative news outlets.' They point to a memo referenced in a Talon News interview of Wilson that suggests his wife was instrumental in his selection for the fact-finding trip to Africa."

Talon News was the only service identified by the Washington Post as having knowledge of the memo's existence.


"I will tell you that the information did not come from inside the administration," Gannon told Talon News. "For something that is supposed to be classified, it seems that this document is easily accessible."


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SCantiGOP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:19 PM
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38. give me a break
this asshole would love to be named in the investigation. might give him another 15 minutes of fame.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:19 PM
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39. "I believe there is sufficient evidence to prove she was not [covert]"
You MORAN.

It's a fact whether or not she was covert that is known to her, to her supervisors at the CIA, and most likely to the special prosecutor. This is not like a murder case where the only ones who knows for sure are the dead guy and the killer. You don't get to prove one way or the other.

Asshat.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:20 PM
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40. "covert operation against the WH?"
:eyes:

Pardon me Jeff, it was an open operation against LIESSSSSS!!!!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:20 PM
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41. "covert operation against the WH?"
:eyes:

Pardon me Jeff, it was an open operation against LIESSSSSS!!!!
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beingthere Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:22 PM
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42. Send him back to the rouge planet
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:25 PM
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43. Like most female spies work in nunneries.
What a worthless moron!
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:30 PM
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44. This guy is not even fit to report for Assless Chaps Journal, jag off. n/t
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