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Liberaler Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:45 PM
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How to identify sex offenders.....
Just make sure that every sex-offender at all time is wearing a bright yellow star attached to their clothes on the left side. It has to be worn visible at all time. Any similarities with what the jews had to wear in Germany in the 1930's is totally coincidental and not intended.

Since sex-offenders are not much of a treath to me, I suggest we add some other classes to the same, let car thieves (I don't want my car stolen!) wear a bright red car symbol on their clothes and they should not be allowed to live closer than 2500 feet to any car. I really don't care for people who are known to shoot and kill people either, so when their sentence has been served, they should wear a bright orange gun on their clothes and should not be able to live within 2500 feet of any guns or knives. And people who swindle and embezzle money should wear a bright green dollar sign on their clothes and not be able to live closer than 2500 feet to any money.

USA is turning into a fascistic regime that single out certain classes of the population as lesser citizens with lesser rights and protections than other classes, just like the jews were treated in nazi Germany.

I feel sick every time I hear all the stupid people on TV with their "Think about the children" slogan. If you are so concerned about your kids, maybe YOU should do something to protect your kids rather than create the new jews?

Land of the free? Maybe, but only if you belong to the "right" class, else your fucked!

Sex offenders - the new American jew!
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:46 PM
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1. This should be interesting
:popcorn:
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:47 PM
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2. Pass the popcorn, JVS. n/t
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:49 PM
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7. You are quite right, actually
I like the Cracker Jacks kind, but freshly made....

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:50 PM
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9. There's plenty in the pantry, help yourself. I'll go grabs some beers
:toast:
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:48 PM
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4. I like mine buttered and salted
:D


this is going to be a good one.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:50 PM
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10. Anybody got any caramel?
It's nice in this weather. :)
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:56 PM
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20. I love caramel popcorn
:9



in any kind of weather....
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:47 PM
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3. Problem is sex offenders pose a real thread
Being Jewish does not.



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Liberaler Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:57 PM
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21. I think the nazis of Germany in the 30's
felt that the Jews were a treath to the Arian race as they called themselves.

They are basically treated the same way as the hews were initally. They had to live in special areas, were not allowed to use certain stores, cafes, services etc, much like blacks in this country a few decades ago. Maybe you could also say that sex offenders are the new "blacks"?

Oh and to all the people who are upset with me, maybe you should take a look at what is imposed on these people and compare it with jews in Germany and blacks in USA 50 years ago and see if you can find any similarities?

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 04:02 PM
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35. Please give me the location of the gas chambers.
:eyes:
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 04:03 PM
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36. Are you really that dense?
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 04:04 PM by nini
You're comparing people who have actually hurt people to those who have not.


why the hell am I even enabling your bullshit????? :banghead:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:48 PM
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5. Frankly, I find the comparison of SO's to Jews very offensive
Jews didn't abuse children, they lived their lives and were punished by an insane maniac for the way they worshipped.

Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:49 PM
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 04:02 PM
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34. The problem is
for those who DID do their time- decades ago- and who now aren't allowed to go see their son or granddaughter graduate high school.

We're extending punishments beyond the time of the sentence, in some cases decades beyond, and I'm curious as to which type of crime we will find ourselves willing do such with next.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:49 PM
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6. It's a bit of a stretch to say that sex offenders are a social class
You started to have an interesting point, but then hinged it on this flawed premise.

And Jew is generally capitalized.

Welcome to DU! :hi:
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:51 PM
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11. We could all take a lesson from you
in diplomacy. Well said!

:thumbsup:
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Liberaler Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:52 PM
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13. Not a class per definition, but
they are treated as a class, i.e every one is treated identical, just like members of a class.

And why is sex offenders deserving a different treatment than other criminals?

The latest I saw on TV today were a curfew for sex offenders on Halloween. A curfew just for a single class of people, jews basically,.
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Der Blaue Engel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:54 PM
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15. Why do you keep using a lowercase j for Jew?
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 03:55 PM by Der Blaue Engel
Just curious.

Edited to add: I, for instance, often distinguish between Christians and christians.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:58 PM
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25. I was thinking the same thing...
...since they don't seem to have a problem doing it at the beginning of sentences. Is that intentionally disrespectful, I wonder...
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:55 PM
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17. Do you have kids?
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 04:07 PM by nini
Do you have any idea why it is necessary to try and control those who cannot control themselves????


I too have some conflict in how they're rights are infringed upon BUT considering most of them cannot control themselves and their victims are those who are least likely to defend themselves, I'd rather err on the side of caution for the worst offenders at a minimum.





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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:52 PM
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12. What an offensive comparison.
I believe that when time is served, it should be considered served. If the SO is still dangerous he belongs in jail.

But to equate them to Jews or the Holocaust is offensive.
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WildEyedLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:54 PM
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14. You're so right! The only difference is....
... sex offenders rape women and kids, and Jews don't.


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MsUnderstood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 04:01 PM
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31. Sex offenders do lots and lots of things
They expose themselves in the park. They hire a prostititute. They have sex with another consenting adult in public. They have sex with a girl 2 or 3 years younger then them (just not old enough for "adult sex". . .and they rape and molest.

The problem is that a "SEX OFFENDER" is such a broad category that you don't know how evil your neighborhood pervert really is.

You don't know that the map of offenders in your neighborhood is identifying a guy busted in a vice sting or a serial rapist, or a pedophile. You don't know if the sex offender is a gal busted for flashing her boobies at a pseudo mardi gras celebration or for a 40 year old arrested at 15 for experiementing with his 13 year old neighbor because one on the LIST you are there forever and it is not graded for level of offense.

Even though the original poster fell off the deep end into exaggeration, so does anyone who believes that TAGGING sex offenders by mapping their address and flagging them for public shunning is going to work.

The conclusion of the original poster is right--protect your kids, educate your kids, and hope for the best.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:55 PM
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16. Ok what am I missing here?
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Liberal Dose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:56 PM
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18. When pedophelia is curable, your analogy will make sense. Until then, it's
crap. Have a nice day! :)
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:59 PM
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27. The analogy would still be crap
Because "Jew" can't (and, well, shouldn't) be cured.

It is grossly benighted to compare an ethnic group and a sociopathic mental defect.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:56 PM
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19. This thread poses no treath to me, whatever that means.
However, you should wear a crackpipe symbol on your clothes.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:57 PM
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22. Trick or treath?
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 03:57 PM by Bluebear
:shrug:
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:58 PM
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26. Ohh a Treath Bar!!!!
yummers!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:59 PM
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28. Sorry all out but we have Threa Muskethrears
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 04:01 PM
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32. This is the best treath I've ever posted in!
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:57 PM
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23. You said sex offenders are not a threat to YOU
But sex offender messed up MY life. You see people who think sex oiffenders are no big deal are in ignorance of the effects of trauma on REAL PEOPLE.

I would prefer all sex offenders die,but I don't trust the state or RELIGIOUS people to be honest enough about sex offenders in thier midst to kill sex offenders .

I think abusers should not be tolerated. If someone abuses powwer abuses people or whatever they should be exposed,not enabled. And if thier victims kill them,it is no loss.

Sex offenders the day they rape ,torturers the day they torture, hace essentially gave up on being human beings.
And I wish all of them DEATH.

There is no excuse for rape.

Cut it off(surgery). Lock them up.Or kill the rapist.They are not to be trusted.They chose to rape.They chose to ruin someones life with trauma.

The choice to torture rape or abuse is ALWAYS a choice .And it is always wrong.

Death is far more merciful than rape or torture.But I don't expect non-traumatized people to GET that.

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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:57 PM
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24. Im having a hard time with this new branding we see.
Not for the guilty, but for those who were unjustly accused.

Theres a local case here where a man was tried for a sex crime he committed 20 yrs ago. If it were true, why didnt the lady accuse him 20 yrs ago?

This is a dangerous precedent. Im not condoning sex crimes but this new "branding" is scary indeed. Which crime is next? All shoplifters get their hand cut off?

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Sapphire Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 03:59 PM
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29. It took you five months to come up w/this?
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 04:01 PM
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30. As a survivor of sexual abuse, I'm offended...
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 04:05 PM by TwoSparkles
...at the inane laws our local governments are passing.

In our local area, a law was passed which prevents a registered sex offender from living within 2000 feet of a school or daycare. In effect, they were driven out of our city of 250,000--because areas without a school or daycare are nonexistent.

I'm so sick and tired of people positioning sex offenders as monsters who are lurking out there somewhere.

One out of four females, and one out of seven males is sexually abused before the age of 18. These are astronomical numbers. It's an epidemic. HOWEVER, 90 PERCENT OF SEXUAL ABUSE VICTIMS ARE VICTIMIZED BY SOMEONE THEY KNOW VERY WELL--USUALLY AN IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER--LIKE A FATHER, STEPFATHER, GRANDFATHER, UNCLE, ETC.

Sorry folks, but the monsters are INSIDE THE HOUSES! They're the accountants, the tax attorneys, the machinists, the teachers and the police officers who live in YOUR BLOCK, and possibly in YOUR OWN HOUSE.

No one--NO ONE--wants to deal with the reality of child sexual abuse.

So we pretend that we care, and that we're doing something. We make believe that the monster is lurking in the parks or scouting the elementary schools for victims. It's a lie. It RARELY happens.

I've met hundreds of survivors of sexual abuse through my work in volunteer support networks that help survivors. I have NEVER, EVER met a survivor of sexual abuse who was victimized by a stranger, or abducted by someone she had never met. The vast majority were sexually abused by their own fathers.

America will not come to grips with this ugly reality. America is in denial. As we remain in denial, more children will go to sleep tonight--in every city in America--and they will not be safe in their own bedrooms---because everyone is too busy enacting frivolous, useless laws that forbid phantom sex offenders from living near a school.

These laws don't protect the vast majority of sexual abuse victims who - - RIGHT NOW - - desperately need safety, security and protections from their perpetrators.

PS--Edited to add. My perpetrators were my father and his best friend--a police officer. They molested me for years and took photographs of the abuse. I reported the abuse this year. Last month, the federal agent I reported the crime to, informed me that he spoke with the police department that employed my perpetrator. That police department said they would do nothing about these crimes because there was no proof. Although I didn't expect indictments, I did expect that they would "look into these allegations." It took every ounce of courage I had, to report these crimes. I was told that when and if this police officer molested again--that they would call me in. Nice huh? You want to do something to help and protect victims of sexual abuse???? You could start by fixing a system that is most obviously shattered, in several places.
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ChavezSpeakstheTruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 04:02 PM
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33. Anybody up for my crackpipe symbol idea?
:shrug:
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Ksec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 04:05 PM
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38. Only if the OP turns out to be anti semite.
After rereading this post it does look like it.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 04:04 PM
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37. Heard about that new regulation, too, eh?
Edited on Wed Oct-26-05 04:04 PM by BiggJawn
The one that curfews "Sex offenders" on Hallowe'en, and forbids them from answering their own front door or taking their own kids trickertreeting?

Shit, why not just do away with Hallowe'en altogether?

Ohhhhhh.....the Dominionists would LOVE that, wouldn't they?

And people who have completed their sentence for shoplifting should be required to wear sticky fingers on their lapel and not approach a store any closer than 2500 feet.

"Pay your Debt to Society" what a fucking JOKE! "Society" is like my ex-Mutha-in-Law, NEVER satisfied!
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-26-05 04:06 PM
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39. Locking
This post is based on an unreal analogy
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