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gWbush is Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:31 AM
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Prediction: Gonzales is the nominee
yay torture!
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Neil Lisst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:34 AM
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1. I think he'll go for the home run. He wants to score BIG.
Bush badly needs someone the rightwing will fawn over, but will have good credentials.

I predict it will be a black woman, and you know her name.

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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:36 AM
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6. Agreed. he will not knock heads against the right again.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:39 AM
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11. Diddo the chimp is politically wounded right now.
He has no choice but to placate his base. Side note isn't it sad that the best we can hope for is the torturer.?
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julialnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:44 AM
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18. right? i can't believe that I HOPE it is the torturer
because at least he is more moderate. What a sad time in history!
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oioioi Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:35 AM
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2. Cheney will resign to become the nominee...
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 08:40 AM by oioioi
He'll be tasked with scouring the country for the right person until somebody says "what about you, Dick?"
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:35 AM
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3. No way.
* will go for a solid conservative whose views on abortion are well-known. This is how * will solidify his base. He needs that renewed support from the base to get through the storm from the CIA leak case.

It will be our worst nightmare as a nominee, that puts the debate back into 'us against them' mode. Sigh!
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:36 AM
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4. Could be
The right wing doesn't like him that much; but there are other considerations that might make him a good choice. The big one being that he will vote the right way on "war on Terror" cases, which I always thought was a big reason for the Miers nomination.

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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:36 AM
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5. Well, he is an available member of Bush's staff
IMO to recover the support of the think tank conservatives he is going to be forced to make an obvious show of getting advice from the republicans on the Hill.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:36 AM
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7. Can he though?
If Gonzales is named on any litigation re: torture, then can he be considered? It would seem to me to be a conflict of interest. I'm sure there must be some litigation somewhere on this issue.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:37 AM
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8. That would really suck
and the worst part is that all the 'news' people would say "Well, he has gotten through committee before, so he should have no trouble doing it again" and when the Dems give him a hard time, it will be seen as 'obstructionist'..

:puke:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:38 AM
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9. He's up to his knees
in the investigation. I doubt it though our weak minded dems would probably give him a pass.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:38 AM
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10. He will NOT give the wrong wing what they want now
not after they fucked him on Harriet.

One thing * is , is a vindictive little fucker. He'll send up another 'moderate' white woman and call out the Dobsonites to "bring it on" again.

Or maybe Al Gonzales...
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:44 AM
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17. Yep, he won't give in.
He's kicking his little feet on the floor right now. He didn't get what he wanted and the fundamentalists are the ones who kept it from him. He won't forget this.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:21 AM
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28. It will be a loyalist. and probably a Texan
One of these: Al Gonzales, Priscilla Owen, Edith Clement, Edith Jones.

The best we can hope for among those is Clement.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:41 AM
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12. David S Addington...
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:41 AM
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13. The Right doesn't like Gonzales either
They view him as too liberal. :eyes: Go figure. So I don't think Bush will go through that mess again. It's going to be a real right-wing wackjob this time.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:42 AM
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14. The man has no mandete.: A wounded lame duck
He is gointg to be embroiled in Plamegate. He has got to go with a moderate and a known commodity.....

The choice is obvious

Ah-nold.
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:45 AM
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20. It was a joke Honestly
HOw about HRC? LOL another joke.

It will either be a Judge or a governor. More likely a woman.
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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:54 AM
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29. ROFL!!!!!!!
:spray: :rofl:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:43 AM
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15. You mean the man responsible for giving the WH days to prepare for the
leak investigation.

I think we need to make a concerted effort and media blast the facts surrounding this little detail! We don't need a supreme court justice who advocates torture-now do we?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:05 AM
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24. Links to info on Gonzales + the delay in notifying WH:
CIA leak inquiry probes delay
Gonzales and Card spoke hours before all White House staff told

Dafna Linzer, Washington Post
Monday, July 25, 2005

 

Washington -- Attorney General Alberto Gonzales said Sunday that he spoke with White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card immediately after learning that the Justice Department had begun a criminal investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's identity. But Gonzales, who was White House counsel at the time, waited 12 hours before officially notifying the rest of the staff of the inquiry.

Many details of the investigation led by special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald are unknown. Sources close to the case have said Fitzgerald is looking into possible conflicts between what President Bush's senior adviser Karl Rove and vice presidential staff chief Lewis "Scooter" Libby told a grand jury, and the accounts of reporters who spoke with the two men.

Gonzales said Sunday on "Fox News Sunday" that he is among the group of top current and former Bush administration officials who have testified to the grand jury about the unmasking of Valerie Plame, a CIA operative. Gonzales, who has recused himself from the case, would not discuss details of his testimony but said he learned about Plame's work from newspaper accounts.

In the Sunday New York Times, columnist Frank Rich reported that when Gonzales was notified about the investigation on the evening of Monday, Sept. 29, 2003, he waited 12 hours before telling the White House staff about the inquiry. Official notification to staff is meant to quickly alert anyone who might have pertinent records to make sure they are preserved and safeguarded.

Asked on CBS's "Face the Nation" about the report, Gonzales said the Justice Department had informed his office around 8 p.m. and that White House lawyers said he could wait until the next morning before notifying the staff. He did not say why he called Card.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2005/07/25/MNGU2DT0EF1.DTL


 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: October 3, 2003

SCHUMER: JUSTICE DEPT MISSTEPS AGAIN IN CIA LEAK PROBE BY TELEGRAPHING TO POTENTIAL CULPRITS THAT IT WILL SEEK RECORDS

Justice Dept made public its plans to notify Defense & State Dept officials to preserve records before it actually did so, giving potential targets time to destroy evidence

Schumer: Justice Dept's week of errors enhances case for special counsel

US Senator Charles E. Schumer today said the Justice Department had made another mistake in its investigation into whether Administration officials illegally disclosed a covert CIA operative's identity by leaking its intent to require the Defense and State Departments to preserve all relevant documents and records. Schumer said that by giving advance notice that it would expand its probe to target those Departments, the Justice Department gave potential targets of the investigation time to destroy evidence.

"There have been a series of serious mistakes in how this matter has been handled this week by the Justice Department," Schumer said. "First, the Department waited four days to tell the White House to preserve documents and then allowed another delay in actually notifying the staff. Yesterday, we heard about the intimate ties between the Attorney General and the White House. Now we're learning that the Justice Department telegraphed its plans to expand the probe to the Defense and State Departments, allowing potential culprits to get rid of anything incriminating. If there are this many questions just in the first week of this investigation, it makes you wonder what's next."

Yesterday's news accounts quoted Justice Department officials saying that they plan to notify Defense and State Department employees to preserve documents and records relating to Ambassador Wilson's wife. They also said that they had already asked CIA employees to do so. Schumer said by telegraphing their plans, the Justice Department appears, for the second time this week, to have done a poor job of preventing the destruction of evidence in this investigation.

In a letter being sent to the Justice Department today, Schumer wrote that he did not understand why "the Department of Justice not immediately send evidence preservation requests to the handful of agencies where individuals have access to this kind of sensitive classified information. If it was not the first step taken, at a minimum the evidence preservation requests to State and DOD should have gone out when the White House requests were issued."


http://schumer.senate.gov/SchumerWebsite/pressroom/press_releases/PR02081.html
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:44 AM
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16. No he won't be. He won't meet the Religious Righteous' views on
abortion.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:45 AM
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19. Nope - He Don't Have the Cojones to Buck His Fellow Talibaners n/t
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:46 AM
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21. Isn't this guy pro-choice too n/t
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KingFlorez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:43 AM
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27. Yes n/t
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:47 AM
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22. He probably does not want it but John Danforth would be acceptable
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:59 AM
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23. Hired help



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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:38 AM
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25. Isn't it about time for the torture photos and videos to come out?
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:40 AM
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26. vote for torture - vote for gonzales - yes that is the gop and wh n/t/
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:55 AM
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30. Tim Grieve (and I) doubt that.
The papers issue rules him out.
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