Could this apple have a razor blade in it?

[Plaid Adder]

Of course it could. But it probably doesn't.

It amazes me how fast this happens: we get a piece of good news, and all of a sudden everyone is spraining their brains trying to figure out how to read it as bad news. What purpose does that serve? Is the bad thing you're afraid is coming down the road going to hurt less because you're braced for it? No. So why not enjoy the hope while you have it?

I don't think the Miers debacle was something they planned. I don't think that because everything I've seen from these clowns over the past 5 years has indicated that they are not diabolically clever, but merely diabolical. They are snorting their own dope there in the White House inner circle, and they think they can fly. THey are finding out they're wrong. This is a good thing.

Trying to outsmart hope does not seem to me like a healthy or productive strategy. Live a little, I say. It's not going to hurt anyone.

Huzzah for the end of Miers's candidacy,

THe Plaid Adder

[beyurslf]

1. It is good and bad news. Good because she was wholly unqualified

to sit on the Court. Bad because we know what we will get now. Someone who may be "qualified" but has absolutely terrible positions on everything.

[zbdent]

2. True, but it did expose the Reich Wingers for the hypocrites that they are

But it will only matter to the 2 percent of the undecideds who actually pay attention, and of those, the ones who are not trusting Faux News as their only source . . .

[Plaid Adder]

7. Well, here's my thing about that.

Bush is certainly going to nominate one of the fouler of the conservative female judges out there. That certainly is bad.

BUT...that was what we expected would happen as soon as Sandra Day O'Connor announced that she was going to resign. The fact that instead of doing that on Day One, Bush is having to do it after the Miers Debacle, is from my point of view pure gravy. Because:

1) He has seriously rattled many of the power brokers in his own party, who now think he's either a traitor to their cause, or completely insane.

2) After swearing up and down that Miers was eminently qualified for the job, Bush's endorsement of the next nominee will ring a tad hollow.

3) Bush has been forced to change his mind about something. That cheers me up immensely.

When the new right-wing vamipre is nominated, well, we will get the fight we were always expecting. But Bush is now in a much weaker position going into it than he would have been if he'd rolled Vampira out in the first place.

C ya,

The Plaid Adder

[Mr_Spock]

10. Agreed. Bush made a filibuster easier to justify...

He has shown weakness and now it can easily be pronounced that his next "radical" appointment was done to reassure his base. He's in deep doodoo no matter how you slice it (EWWW!) :D

[LonelyLRLiberal]

20. Yes - this is going to be very interesting indeed.

I just hope the Democrats have some backbone and oppose whatever wacko he decides to nominate next. Filibuster, I say, Filibuster!

[Zen]

3. I could not possibly agree with you more! Let's enjoy failure for what it

is,

FAILURE!

I am trying to keep a smile on my face even while reading all the kill-joy posts here on DU. This is the biggest most obvious failure of the Bush administration. Let'e enjoy it!!

:D :D :D :D :D :D

[Theres-a]

4. They are snorting their own dope and they think they can fly

:spray:

[JuniorPlankton]

5. Joy is fine as long as you are not delusional on the substance

I have seen a lot of people professing their influence in the Miers debacle. Give me a break! It was done by right-wing religious nuts. It just so happened that our interests were directed against the same person. This withdrawal didn't happen because of us (us in the broad sense), it happened regardless of us.

Having said that, a toast: "Huzzah for the end of Miers's candidacy"

:kick:

[Richard Steele]

6. Agreed! I keep saying they aren't "evil geniuses", just EVIL.

They have gotten so many Free Passes, they really expected
to get another one re:Miers.

No objections were raised to any of the other unqualified cronies,
why should she be any different, right?

Because it's OVER, Georgie.
The PEOPLE give you the WORST APPROVAL RATING EVER,
and your Republican "friends" need to start distancing
themselves from the train wreck which is your administration.

The only "free pass" left is to a VERY bumpy ride of your own making.
Buckle up!

[Benhurst]

11. Exactly. Too many mistake ruthlessness for brilliance. NT

[IChing]

8. First thought you were talking about anne the nazi Coulter's adam's apple

LOL
Miers was shot down and that is good. She was not supported by the Senate Republicans and that is why he choose to be embarrassed now and not with a up and down vote which really showed his lack of support for his "decisionizer".

Also with fitzmaz coming, any nomination will even be more scrutinized by the media, democrats and public.

[Pacifist Patriot]

18. LOL! Good one.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

9. You are correct

None of us knows what is going on behind the scenes at the WH and elsewhere. For all we know, the nomination of someone to appease the far right extremists might very well rankle the GOP moderates-and there are still plenty of them around. Many of these folks are rank and file, and if you talk with them, you realize that they feel that they have been had. The party that they knew has somehow metastasized into a cancerous monster that is intent on destroying their values as well as the country.

[Arianrhod]

12. I give a timid agreement.

I'm a pessimist, so I don't get all giggly when good things happen to me. Usually, I wonder what horror I'm going to have to suffer later on in order to pay for the pleasure I've received now. :eyes:

And it does give me pleasure to see this administration squirm, after 5 years of smarmy swaggering. Personally, I'd be happy simply to see DeLay, Rove and Libby relieved of their duties and banished from advising the government. That would be a real step in the right direction, even if it isn't the orange-suited perp walk we all know these men deserve.

But I'm very happy to see Miers out of the running. She was a * butt-kisser from the get-go. After the Roberts rubber-stamp, it's good to see a little opposition for a change.

Who knows what we'll get in her place. I've always expected all of *'s nominees to be raving anti-American lunatics. We need to simply take them on, one at a time, as they arrive. No use fearing the army when defeating the champion will do.

BTW, if Fitzgerald ends up taking Cheney down, I'd predict the entire administration will collapse. Not because Cheney is that valuable, but because he's the sort who would take as many down with him as possible.

I love the "Party of Responsibility". :party:

[NV Whino]

13. One day at a time, as they say.

One down and we will fight the next one as he/she is nominated. And we MUST fight each one. Enough of this rolling over shit.

[elehhhhna]

14. thank you PA. They don't PLAN. They REACT.

[SheilaT]

15. Absolutely.

I do not trust these people in the slightest. They are truly evil, and will do anything to advance their agenda, no matter if it destroys the country.

Not to mention there's already a history of nominating even someone worse if the first candidate gets shot down.

We can perhaps hope that Senate Republicans simply will not tolerate any extreme right-winger, but if the next nominee is some extremely conservative judge already on the bench somewhere (and certainly Priscilla Owens comes to mind) it's not really possible to argue that she's unqualified. Only if there are enough moderate Republicans to hold out for someone who actually is moderate will we be safe.

[texpatriot2004]

16. Well said Plaid Adder. nm

[Pacifist Patriot]

17. It is bad news!

Those were going to be some damned entertaining confirmation hearings. ;)

I know what you mean. I have to fight the tendency myself. Personally, I think Rove's supposed brilliance is wildly overrated. I think there have been plenty of examples of political screw ups on his part. Our lack of a free energetic curious mainstream media has been to his benefit.

[izzybeans]

19. Yeah I don't think it was planned either but I'm waiting for the

new inquisitor to be nominated now. If Meirs didn't pass the wingnut litmus test, then let's imagine who will. "Get ready for a BOOK BURNING!"

[DinahMoeHum]

21. I'm afraid so, PA, there IS a razor in this apple.

We have to remember 2 things:

1) Anybody who would stick firecrackers into frogs is certainly capable of hiding a razor blade in an apple.

2) Bush & Co. are the consummate con-artists, in that their stock-in-trade is that they win consistently, then they bait you some more by pretending to lose in the next round, but they're setting you up for a bad-ass sting.

So yeah, I'm still suspicious.

And if all other attempts at justice for us fails, well, there's another thing someone could do. Unfortunately, it's not fit to be mentioned here.


:evilfrown:

[wiggs]

22. Doesn't help that our dem leaders...

...let others tell the public that there's fruit involved, that it's an apple, what color it is, that it taste's great, it's juicy, apple's are America's fruit, that it's the kind of apple they want...when it's really a lemon.

We are focused on what the GOP is going to do simply because they are often the most visible ones out there telling the public how people should perceive the issue. We wouldn't have to worry so much about these issues if they were simply framed the way they should be by OUR leaders.

If 100 of our dem leaders were asked to comment on the fruit issue, 60 would say that although they question the variety of apple offered they generally love apples and then ask for donations from apple growers, 10 would ask the GOP to apologize for not talking about bananas, 1 would again ask Rove to apologize for that comment about offering therapy to terrorists, 19 wouldn't say anthing,and 10 would mention that they suspect that the fruit looks like a lemon, and would convene a dem-only hearing in the basement.

This, AGAIN, should have been an easy issue for dems to frame over and over....another WEAK crony nomination by an administration who gave us Brown and one disaster after another because because ideology trumps reality in this adminsitration.

Sorry for flogging the analogy past the point of tolerance....

...and sorry for again bagging on dem leaders (a few of whom do seem to be showing signs of life), but the last five years have been filled with Harriet Miers type ridiculousness and dems, while not in power, have not come close to doing all they can in opposition.

[Robeysays]

23. HUZZAH!

:toast: