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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:24 AM
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CNN just reported that Fitz summarized the case for the GJ yesterday and
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 10:29 AM by Pirate Smile
the case is now in the hands of the Grand Jury.

I caught the end of the report by Bob Franken.

Did anyone see any additional information reported by Franken?

edit to add - I just saw a thread on this info http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5189641
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:26 AM
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1. He Mentioned The Possibility Of An Extension, And That
that option wasn't likely. He didn't explain why it is unlikely, however.
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Dem Agog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:28 AM
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4. This AM Rachel Maddow mentioned...
She said that she didn't believe legally you could extend the same grand jury twice.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:31 AM
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5. I think he can...
I heard another talking head say that he could.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:38 AM
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9. I heard that he can ask for a new GJ but can't hold this one over
any longer. Asking to create a new one to continue the investigation (especially if they are going to dig deeper with this as a starting point) makes perfect sense. If he feels that there is more to do, then he should ask for a new GJ.

Renting new office space, bringing some of his staff from Chicago in recent days, meetings with the presiding judge and still interviewing Plame's neighbors (assuming the FBI did that at her request) are all good signs that he is not totally statisfied that he has found everything that needs to be found.

Just a thought ... what if the FBI were making those inquiries to Plame's neighbors for the defense instead of for the case. Wouldn't that be another misuse of a government agency?
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:58 AM
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15. You're Very Correct...One Other Detail
By sitting til the last possible minute before indictments are passed out, this enables Fitzgerald to play "let's make a deal" with principals and others involved in this case...offering plea bargains or "kinder treatment" if they get statements on record before the fact rather than later. This could really be putting the squeeze on a lot of lawyers and making stomaches even tighter.

Also...consider the all the new testimony and evidence that's come into play in the last couple weeks. Could be that "found" notebook of Judy's could open the door to the next investigation or other documents that haven't been disclosed.

This jury's time is up, but just like the Starr probe, Fitzgerald can go to the presiding judge and say he needs to expand or redefine his mandate that would require a new grand jury.

Either way, this sure doesn't sound like an investigation that's reaching an end, just a phase.
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:37 PM
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16. See post #11
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WyLoochka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:49 AM
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11. A Federal Grand Jury
Can sit for up to three years. This GJ has had one 6 month extension, I believe, for a total of 18 months. With the Judge's approval there can be 3 more, 6 month extensions.

At least that what I read last night.
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:27 AM
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2. Updates if possible for worker rats stuck in cubes. n/t
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:27 AM
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3. so what exactly is the GJ deciding?
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:32 AM
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6. The GJ decides whether to issue indictments
But generally grand juries tend to go along with the prosecutor's request.
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Bernardo de La Paz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:36 AM
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7. Apparently, Fitzgerald has rented new bigger quarters across the street.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:52 AM
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13. That is excellent news! eom
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willing dwarf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:37 AM
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8. Just in theory: If a Grand Jury doesn't indict...
could the same stuff be brought before a new grand jury or is it like a case that you can't be tried twice. Can you try to indict on the same evidence twice?
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:40 AM
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10. That is just what happened to Delay
They had "new evidence" that was brought to the new GJ and they actually added charges the second time around.
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WyLoochka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:51 AM
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12. YES - but it is rarely tried
by prosecutors, unless a whole lot of new evidence surfaces.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 10:55 AM
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14. Maybe someone new flipped?
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 09:39 PM
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17. He would be able to bring it up again.
No, there's no "double jeopardy" law in grand jury proceedings.
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