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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 11:21 AM
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Does anybody remember the freeped poll that Robert Novak used in 2000?
Robert Novak used a poll off the internet to create public support for right-wing political maneuvering. I think it was in reference to the 2000 election and that it involved a poll stating that the majority of the public wanted Gore to stop the recounts.

Does anybody remember this? It was the very first time that I learned that on-line polls were being used by the mainstream press. Soon after that, I learned about the freepers and their freeping tactics. Looking back now, I wonder if this wasn't a set-up. Does anybody remember where that poll was coming from that Novak used?
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 12:47 PM
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1. I remember
We had those disgusting Brooks Brothers "rioting" for the count to stop, John Bolton "counting" ballots and winger media spinning for Bush. Not much "news" seemed fair and/or balanced. Nobody in "real life" was calling for Gore to concede...I was screaming at my TV set each time one of those LIES came out. That was when I knew we'd had a MSM-assisted COUP. GORE WON and WE WUZ ROBBED!!! The Fairness Doctrine, the FCC Deregulation of 1996...all prep for this theft.
Judy-the-Ho-Woodruff and Novakula should BOTH be in jail.

Will Pitt wrote about it.
http://www.apj.us/20010609GodFreepers.html
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 01:14 PM
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2. Bolton was involved in the ballot counting?
Well, I know Jim Baker was on national t.v. too. Even came down to Florida.

So we have Bolton, Baker, and Novak, very much pushing the results of this election in the direction they wanted it to go.

Hmmm...
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 04:28 PM
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3. "Im with the Bush-Cheney team, and I'm here to stop the count."
They're an incestuous group of furtive thugs.
I'm getting really angry (and queasy) reliving this nightmare.



http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0414-25.htm
John Bolton vs. Democracy
by John Nichols

"Im with the Bush-Cheney team, and I'm here to stop the count."

Those were the words John Bolton yelled as he burst into a Tallahassee library on Saturday, Dec. 9, 2000, where local election workers were recounting ballots cast in Florida's disputed presidential race between George W. Bush and Al Gore.


Bolton was one of the pack of lawyers for the Republican presidential ticket who repeatedly sought to shut down recounts of the ballots from Florida counties before those counts revealed that Gore had actually won the state's electoral votes and the presidency.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 05:50 PM
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4. HOLY SHIT! I hadn't realized Bolton was in so deep!
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 05:51 PM by The Backlash Cometh
This will be very relevant if they can prove election fraud. My God! What a conspiracy!
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Panda1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:41 AM
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5. He's disgusting but effective for the mob
Baker summoned him to Florida. They got their best thug for the job. They pay their hitmen well. His reward...the UN...and now his job is to wreck it.

I was incredulous as it happened, rereading this stuff I'm even more incredulous. How the hell did we allow this to happen to us? The Fairness Doctrine and FCC Deregulation. That's when they got their chokehold on the truth. We had a coup and the winger media lied about it.

I wonder what Bolton had to say to Judy Miller when he visited her in jail? The guy is scary and revolting...with a very bad temper.


http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat?bid=1&pid=2320


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Bolton was in South Korea when it became clear that the Nov. 7, 2000, election would be decided in Florida. At the behest of former Secretary of State James Baker, who fronted the Bush-Cheney team during the Florida fight, Bolton winged his way to Palm Beach, where he took the lead in challenging ballots during that county's recount. Then, when the ballots from around the state were transported to Tallahassee for the recount ordered by the state Supreme Court, Bolton followed them.

It was there that he personally shut down the review of ballots from Miami-Dade County, a populous and particularly contested county where independent reviews would later reveal that hundreds of ballots that could reasonably have been counted for Gore were instead discarded.

Miami-Dade County Elections Supervisor David Leahy argued at the time that 2,257 voters had apparently attempted to mark ballot cards for Gore or Bush but had not had them recorded because they had been improperly inserted into the voting machines. A hand count of those ballots revealed that 302 more of them would have gone for Gore than Bush. That shift in the numbers from just one of Florida's 67 counties would have erased more than half of Bush's 537-vote lead in the state.
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Bolton was a key player in the fight to delay the Florida count long enough to allow for the Supreme Court's intervention, and he got his reward quickly. Despite his record of making controversial and sometimes bizarre statements regarding international affairs, he was selected by the Bush administration in 2001 to serve as Under Secretary of State for Arms Control.
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