Didn't agree two weeks ago, but I do now... Dems should keep quiet!!

[Dawgs]

If you don't agree, then look at the three big stories over the past weeks.

1) Miers nomination and withdrawal --> The Republicans can't blame it on the Dems cause' it was a Bush nominee, and the right didn't like her anyways.
Even so, Coulter tried when she said Reid suggested Miers to Bush

2) Fitz and Plame scandal --> Republicans would love to smear Fitz as a Dem, but they can't cause' he's neither a Dem or Pub.
Even so, Coulter tried smearing Dems by claiming that Pubs aren't smearing Fitz, when the Dems smeared Starr.

3) Delay Indictment --> Delay and Lawyer's only defense is to attack Dem Prosecutor and Dem Judge.

I say to all Dems, just sit back, enjoy, and don't say a damn thing til next year... then come out with a Democratic 'contract for America'.

[tk2kewl]

1. disagree

they should speak up

slam them good and use it to describe how Dems would do it differently and better

[seabeyond]

5. schumer then adn then was directly attack and smeared

by media and repug. though i think he did a good job. as did durbin. kerry too, yesterday, but then geez wasnt he attacked.

[tk2kewl]

8. so we should not speak up for fear of being attacked?

:shrug:

to hell with that. kick 'em and be sure to say how you could do it better. just don't kick 'em gleefully, do it somberly

[seabeyond]

11. i think i clearly supported the three i heard speak up

so your conclusion from my post, "dont speak up" doesnt really make sense now, does it?

[tk2kewl]

13. i thought you were saying it wasn't worth it because they were attacked

sorry

[Rowdyboy]

2. That would be the smartest strategy they could take.....

They need to just let the Republicans keep burying themselves and resist the urge to pile on until just the right moment.

[Writer]

3. agree

We need not stick a Democratic label on their self-inflicted wounds. That would only enable them to label their suicide as a Democratic ploy.

[Debau2005]

4. I agree

Sit back, watch them implode, stay above the fray. Then step in.

[mshasta]

6. enough is enough!

[liberalitch]

7. Be quiet, be nice, don't point fingers.....

I am so fucking sick of that!

So now I'm loud, mean and poking my finger right in the chest of anyone who wants to argue!

[Road Scholar]

9. I agree! Just sit back

and let them screw themselves to the sticking place, then come out with the Contract, after a little funnin' of course.:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank: :spank:

[slor]

10. No way, my friend...

They need to scream from the mountain top, that bush caved to the right-wing and that he did so against his OWN decision. She was his choice, and he dropped her due to the freaky right-wing. Slam him and then slam him again.

On edit: Think about it this way, and I mean no offense. You were wrong just "two week ago" about the Democratic strategy, and I think your tactic in this case, is wrong as well.

[Dawgs]

15. Well. maybe...

but look at it this way.

The Democrats could have screamed and yelled about Miers, but they didn't. If they would have, the pundits and MSM would be saying that the Democrats were too hard on this 'poor little women'.

Look at what's happening in the Delay case. There are a lot of people out there that think Delay is just a victim of a political attack.

We have to play by the rules. We obviously can't control the media, so we have to make sure that we limit what they can use against us.

[slor]

16. Sure, the bush-bots are saying that...

but not most Americans. And the facts are beginning to show that the delay camp did, in fact, do some dirty-dealing, by their own admission. At this time, regarding Miers, it is the right-wing, and bush conceding to them, over his own wishes, that the Dems need to attack. Who is running the country? bush or the right-wing. Remember all the "up or down" vote crap? He walked away from all of that, and the Dems need to point that out, BIG-TIME.

[Lexingtonian]

12. yep

I wish the Righteous About Iraq crowd would clue in on this too. Until the Iraq thing falls apart from within they're in effect merely being blowhards.

[phiddle]

14. Be quiet, AND attack

Don't pile on where things are going well for us---Plame, Delay, governmental incompetence and Miers---as we risk overplaying the hand. But use the opportunity to open new fronts of attack---the destruction of the middle class, lack of coherent Iraq policy (See Kerry's speech yesterday), environmental issues, the Patriot Act, etc. They will then have too many fronts to defend.
The time to hit them is when they are down, but we want to use the opening to create future issues for us, IMO.

[chat_noir]

17. let the Repubs self-destruct for a while

Conservatives don't trust the Bush cabal. Let them go at each other.
Don't give them any ammo to counterattack.

When the in-fighting slows, then Dems should step up to the plate big time.

[Maven]

18. The only reason the pukes aren't smearing Fitz

is because they CAN'T.

He's too clean.

But you bet your ass they've tried.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. NO! Enough with "contract" framing! Don't buy into Republican framing!

NO! Enough with "contract" framing! Don't buy into Republican framing! You had a great post and blew in the last three words.

The Democratic party needs a positive upbeat platform with broad buyin.

[Dawgs]

21. Agree...

That's why I put contract in quotes.

[Norquist Nemesis]

20. It's time to start talking issues and solutions now.

Let the publicons implode on their own.