Fluffdaddy
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:18 PM
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Anyone worried about there being NO indictments on CIA Leak Probe ? |
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How the Grinch Stole Fitzmas
Anyone worried about Fitzgerald Not handing down any indictments and that Libby,Rove and Cheney will walk ?
Many on the left are talking like it's a forgone conclusion that there will be indictments. I'm still feel it is 50-50 either way. Anybody else feel the same?
I remember back around noon on the day of the election everyone here was doing the victory dance like we had it won. I guess after the shocking event in Nov 2004, I'm just not in the mood for another big let down
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:21 PM
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But I am not now. The direction Bush has been taking...reversing on the Davis Bacon act...Harry dropping out of SC ..are not business as usual with this administration...someone else is giving advise...someone else who is not getting indicted.
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:21 PM
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2. stranger things have happened |
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:22 PM
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3. that thought has crossed my mind too. |
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Especially because this is coming down to the last second. I wish he would deal with it today. Not tomorrow. I am beginning to get a bad feeling in my stomach.
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:22 PM
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4. A forgone concussion. :D |
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That would be when the Dems :kick: you in the head, right?
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:27 PM
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12. Conclusion........Thank you :p |
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:23 PM
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5. No - to quote my Magic 8-Ball - All signs point to indictment...n/t |
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:23 PM
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6. Yeah. I'm one of those horrible pessimists who don't think that there |
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will be any indictments.
I've been wrong about a lot of things in my life. I hope and pray that I'm talking (typing?) out of my ass on this one.
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:23 PM
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7. I agree 100% with your sentiments. |
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I truly wonder how naive some people are. Geez, the indictments have been delayed and delayed...wonder why? You don't think there is a lot of backroom wheeling and dealing going on as we speak? People getting bought off, threatened, etc? These are some very powerful people under the gun here - how do you think they rose to these positions? They are ABOVE the law, they ARE the law. Even if Rove is indicted, what will that mean? Do you think he will ever have any punitive action taken against him? Fuck no, the lawyers will get together and plea this down to a slap on the wrist. I just cannot understand people's enthusiasm and high hopes over this - even Nixon was pardoned for christ's sake.
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:31 PM
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15. i would think the delays are related to getting an air-tight case |
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Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 12:31 PM by LSK
And also to see if the case can be broadened into the charges that we were lied into war. Its a sensitive matter when you go after the President and/or Vice President. He should take all the time he needs as long as he gets it right.
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:33 PM
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Based on whose timeline? Certainly not Fitzgerald's. He hasn't said word one about when, or if, indictments are going to come down. It has been pure speculation on the timing of indictments. They'll come when Fitz is good and ready and has an airtight case.
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:24 PM
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8. I don't think Mr. Fitzgerald would be renting new Office Space in DC |
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If there were no indictments coming out of this.
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:25 PM
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I'm worried about how many "worried" threads will be posted until Fitzgerald makes any comments. I think there have been about a hundred of them since last week.
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:31 PM
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17. Has there been that many "worried" threads" ? Links please |
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:26 PM
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10. Prepare for the worst |
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hope for the best.
This is exactly how I have been dealing with this
Teh worst, no indictments the republic is dead, re-read the declaration becasue we are at that point... the best, indictments, constitutional crisis, et al
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:26 PM
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11. I don't think Diebold has a hand in this decision |
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:29 PM
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Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 12:29 PM by LSK
This is not an election that diebold can steal.
This is not a public debate that talking heads can influence.
This is the law.
There will be indictments.
And dont forget, Delay was indicted. Who would have thought that was possible?
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:29 PM
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Hope Fitz keeps throwing out head fakes and getting Chimpy to expend all his diversionary ammo. Keep the reich wing sweating and gyrating.. and they will continue to make huge strategic blunders. I haven't seen so much entertainment in government.. ever. wooohooo
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:31 PM
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No indictments won't happen.
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:41 PM
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19. I know I'm a pessimists.I just can't get Noon Nov 2nd, 2004 out of my head |
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Those that was here will remember all the hand shaking and dancing that was going on here. I'm getting the same feeling now.
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Thu Oct-27-05 12:46 PM
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Thu Oct-27-05 01:01 PM
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I am worried that jailtime will be plea-bargained away, AND that anyone who does go to trial will delay and spin and manuever until 2009 AND that anyone who is indicted will be pardoned.
I think many in the administration neocon group are going to leave, resign, move on....before the Abu Ghraib photos are released, before the Plame trials, before the Sibel stuff comes out, before Abramoff trials, before the economy blows up...before 5 years of bad policy catch up to them. We are going to witness a mass exodus.
While this is good, in a way, many will get away clean except for maybe some disgrace and bad press. Small price to pay for moving trillions of dollars toward corporate buddies.
Jailtime is the only justice here, IMO. Happy with indictments, but the potential for jailtime is not clear at all.
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Thu Oct-27-05 02:04 PM
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this kind of last minute jockeying in a big case like this would be normal. The targeted people actually realize that within a few days they will be indicted, and are now scrambling to see if they can cut deals.
I even think that Fitz's interviewing the neighbors again could be a pressure point to show that he means business on the main crime of outing Plame.
If Libby/Rove's main defense was that everybody knew, seeing them interviewed again, with some of them interviewed on TV may make them actually realize that that dog won't hunt.
I also think Fitz is looking to continue the investigation further into the Niger papers and other aspects, and if he can use possible impending indictments to cut deals to get more information on that and other things, he can wait until the last minute.
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