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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 02:37 PM
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Report: Noe Indicted By Federal Grand Jury - GOP going down in flames!!
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 02:38 PM by helderheid
http://www.nbc4i.com/news/5190569/detail.html

Report: Noe Indicted By Federal Grand Jury

POSTED: 2:54 pm EDT October 27, 2005
UPDATED: 3:08 pm EDT October 27, 2005

TOLEDO, Ohio -- A federal grand jury has indicted a prominent Ohio GOP contributor in an investigation into contributions to President George W. Bush's re-election campaign, a defense attorney said Thursday.

Tom Noe

The Toledo Blade reported that Tom Noe, a former Toledo-area coin dealer, is suspected of laundering money into Bush’s re-election campaign.

Jon Richardson told the newspaper that he was called Thursday afternoon and informed of the indictment.

A news conference has been scheduled for 4:30 p.m. to announce the details of the indictment.

The U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Ohio said the news conference would announce "a major public corruption indictment."

Watch NBC 4 and refresh nbc4i.com for additional information.

Copyright 2005 by nbc4i.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 02:39 PM
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1. Wow!
I'm glad to hear this update! Thank you!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 02:39 PM
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2. coingate is intimately involved in the stealing of the 2004 election!
WOOT!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:16 PM
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18. I thought that I had remembered that! Did the recent GAO report on
2004 election violations that Conyers requested include this? There was a DU post on the report yesterday, but I don't have the link.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:19 PM
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20. I'm not sure if he was in that report or not - will have to check!
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 04:22 PM
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38. Here's the link to the original article. I can't find the DU post. It
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 04:29 PM by WiseButAngrySara
looks as if mainly voting machine irregularities were addressed, but I've not read the report. So far, I've seen no mention of Coingate.

edited to add DU link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5183345&mesg_id=5183345
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1529

Powerful Government Accounting Office report confirms key 2004 stolen election findings
by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman
October 26, 2005

<snip>

As a legal noose appears to be tightening around the Bush/Cheney/Rove inner circle, a shocking government report shows the floor under the legitimacy of their alleged election to the White House is crumbling.

The latest critical confirmation of key indicators that the election of 2004 was stolen comes in an extremely powerful, penetrating report from the General Accounting Office that has gotten virtually no mainstream media coverage.

The government's lead investigative agency is known for its general incorruptibility and its through, in-depth analyses. Its concurrence with assertions widely dismissed as "conspiracy theories" adds crucial new weight to the case that Team Bush has no legitimate business being in the White House.

Nearly a year ago, senior Judiciary Committee Democrat John Conyers (D-MI) asked the GAO to investigate electronic voting machines as they were used during the November 2, 2004 presidential election. The request came amidst widespread complaints in Ohio and elsewhere that often shocking irregularities defined their performance.





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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 02:40 PM
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3. Add my WOW to that one.
And it isn't even Fitzmas!!
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 02:41 PM
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4. make a deal and start singing, boyo.
nm
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 02:45 PM
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6. He'll "change" his tune now, I betcha. Put a quarter in the slot and
sing, baby, sing!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 02:53 PM
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7. GOD wouldn't it be GREAT if he admits 2004 was stolen?
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ROH Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:01 PM
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9. He would need to show proof (n/t)
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 08:05 PM
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42. I gotta laugh at these people who want "proof." Sorry, ROH, you're...
...going to have to find the dead or disappeared hackers (one hacker, a couple of minutes, leaving no trace) who entered the code into Diebold's and ES&S's "TRADE SECRET," PROPRIETARY vote tabulation software.

Cuz you're never going to see the software. Get it?
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long_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:01 PM
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10. if such a revelation came out,
and I'm not holding my breath, it would be just the beginning of a bloodbath that would knock 100's of GOPers out of office. It might even put pressure on a new Congress to investigate 2000 to the point that some Supreme Court Justices could be impeached.

talk about too good to be true.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 02:41 PM
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5. Fuck, yah!
:woohoo:
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mtnester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 02:59 PM
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8. Oh Oh there will be trickle down from this
Edited on Thu Oct-27-05 03:00 PM by mtnester
I have YET to see a Republican go down in flames ALONE.

Tom Noe will take EVERYONE involved with him...EVERYONE

Ohio Repubs shakin in their BOOTS now. Probably some DC types as well.

It just keeps gettin better folks.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:03 PM
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12. I may have to buy champagne
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 04:57 PM
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39. OK - just bought...
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:02 PM
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11. Fill in the blanks..
Republican___________ has been indicted for ___________.


Pretty much the only sentence the media needs to do the news these days.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:06 PM
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13. Dramatic new charges deepen link between Ohio's "Coingate," Voinovich mob
http://www.freepress.org/departments/display/19/2005/1387

Dramatic new charges deepen link between Ohio's "Coingate," Voinovich mob connections, and the theft of the 2004 election

by Bob Fitrakis & Harvey Wasserman
July 29, 2005

COLUMBUS -- New charges filed against Ohio Governor Bob Taft's former top aide have blazed a new trail between "Coingate" and the GOP theft of the 2004 presidential election.

Brian Hicks appears in court today to answer charges that he failed to report vacation trips he took to Coingate mastermind Tom Noe's $1.3 million home in the Florida Keys. A top Taft aide for a dozen years, Hicks stayed at Noe's place in 2002 and 2003. Another Taft aide, Cherie Carroll, is charged with taking some $500 in free dinners from Noe.

Noe is a high-roller crony of Taft, US Senator George Voinovich and President George W. Bush. Noe charged the Ohio Bureau of Worker's Compensation nearly $13 million to invest some $58 million. Ohio Attorney-General Jim Petro, to whom Noe once donated money, says some $4 million disappeared into Noe's pocket.

The new charges against Taft's former aide are at the edge of Coingate's links to Bush, Voinovich and organized crime. Through Noe's wife Bernadette, those links extend to the GOP theft of Ohio 2004.

Tom Noe, northwest Ohio's "Mr. Republican" and a close Bush/Rove crony, is under federal investigation for making possibly illegal contributions to the Bush/Cheney campaign.

As owner of Vintage Coins and Cards in Maumee, Ohio, Noe raised more than $100,000, to become a Bush Pioneer/Ranger.

( A LOT more at the link above )


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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:08 PM
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14. How funny! A Republican con artist coin dealer laundering coins!
What appropriate timing.

:kick: and recommend.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:11 PM
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15. I feel like I am in fantasy land or something lately
Good news? One after the other?

*faints*
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:15 PM
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17. I know! I can't stop smiling!
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:11 PM
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16. Keep on pulling on the strings!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:16 PM
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19. WOO HOO! I have a file on this guy:
I called it my NOE/BOE file because of the ties to the Lucas County Election Fraud

By the early nineties, Tom W. Noe had a net worth of 2.4 million dollars and his coin business had sales over $6.4 million. Then the Blade reports:

By 1992, a year after his business had suffered what he called “a huge loss,” he figured he was more than $16,500 in debt.
As Mr. Noe tried to support a lifestyle that didn’t match his income, the financial strain was crushing
“I was liquidating assets as quickly as I could to appease banks so they wouldn’t foreclose on myself and my business,” he testified during divorce proceedings.

Despite the tough times, he continued to find money to give to politicians and others.
In 1991 and 1992 combined, court records show, Mr. Noe sent $29,200 to GOP politicians or the Republican Party and nearly $11,000 to charities.

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050515/NEWS24/505150404/0/NEWS10

Tom Noe is under federal investigation regarding the loss of $ 12 million rare coins from the $ 50 million dollar investment by the Ohio Bureau of Workmens Comp (BWC).Bernadette Noe and Tom Noe both have links to the Lucas County BOE. Ms Noe was Chairperson of the Lucas County BOE during the past election. I hope you have taken the time to read the SOS's Investigation of Lucas county following the election:

http://www.sos.state.oh.us/sos/elections/lucas.htm


This report includes the fact that REPUBLICAN VOLUNTEERS were allowed UNSUPERVISED ACCESS to UNSECURED BALLOTS prior to the election, as well as this list:

*failure to maintain ballot security
*Inability to implement and maintain a trackable system for voter ballot reconciliation .
*failure to prepare and develop a plan for the processing of the voluminous amount of voter registration forms received.
*issuance and acceptance of incorrect absentee ballot forms.
*manipulation of the process involving the 3% recount.
*disjointed implementation of the Directive regarding the removal of Nader and Camejo from the ballot .
*failure to properly issue hospital ballots in accordance with statutory requirements.
*failure to maintain the security of poll books during the official canvass
*failure to examine campaign finance reports in a timely manner.
*failure to guard and protect public documents.
*failure to guard and protect public documents ....etc.


-One-half of the ballots printed and used in the 2004 general election in Lucas county were stored in an open space on the fhird floor of the county warehouse with no security measures in place.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation on Lucas County BOE page 4



-Live ballots were delivered to polling locations a week in advance of the election. Although the ballots were retrieved, one board employee who was assigned to the warehouse informed the SOS staff that he did not believe all the ballots were successfully retrieved.
SOURCE; SOS Investigation, page 5



-Lucas County BOE failed to record or retrieve ballot stub numbers of absentee voters’ ballots as required by statute OH Revised Code 3505.23. It was reported by an elector that her mother had received not one, but three absentee voter ballots. there was no way to determine if similar incidents occurred and if so how many.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation, page 7




-October 4, 2004 was filing deadline for new voter registrations. At that point there were approximately 20,000 unprocessed voter registration applications with less than a month before the election. One mail tray containing 4,500-7,000 (estimates vary) unprocessed “Project Voter” registrations were discovered on or about October 18,2004.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation pg 10

***Of interest here is information obtained from the SOS website entitled ElectionsVoter/results 2003 and 2004 which show the # of registered voters number change from ‘03-’04 was 11,947 in Lucas County: reg voters 2003 in Lucas=288,190 ; registered voter in 2004=300,137.



-In late September or early October an employee of the Ohio Republican Party contacted Sam Thurber (*involved with politician wife Maggie Thurber in Noe scandal.) wanting to inspect and have copies made of all recently returned voter registrations, Ohio Republican Party offered to furnish volunteers to assist with copying postcards. No one at the Lucas County BOE can confirm that anyone was assigned to supervise Republican volunteers. On their second day of copying, a BOE employee, Jennifer Bernath, Democratic Booth Official) saw republican party volunteers peeling off the yellow return stickers applied by the post office. (Violation of RC 149.43 (B) (I) , and agruably a violation of 149.351.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation, pgs 18-19

*Among those whose donations have caught the attention of investigators are:

City Councilman Betty Shultz; former state representative Sally Perz, her husband, Joe, and her daughter, Allison; former county elections director Joe Kidd; county Auditor Larry Kaczala and his wife, Gina; County Commissioner Maggie Thurber and her husband, Sam; and two of Mr. Noe’s co-workers at Vintage Coins and Collectibles, partner Tim Lapointe and executive assistant Susan Metzger. Mr. Lapointe’s wife, Linda, also donated.

All of the above gave the campaign $2,000 except the Thurbers; each of them gave $1,950 to the campaign. The $23,900 in donations were made between Oct. 30 and Nov. 5, 2003.

Path of donations At issue is whether Mr. Noe gave people money in order for them to give to the Bush campaign, allowing Mr. Noe to exceed federal spending limits, law-enforcement sources said.
Source:
Toledo Blade - FBI Raids GOP Donor Noe's Condo
Friday, April 29, 2005




-The Swanton 3 poll book turned up missing and has never been recovered.
SOURCE: SOS Investigation pg 16


-The number of precincts in Lucas County for the November 2003 election was 530 precincts, at the time of the November 2, 2004 election there were 495 precincts.


Tom W. Noe served as the Chairman of the Lucas County Republican Party from 1992-1995 as well as on the board of the Lucas County Board of Election from 1993-2003. He was also appointed to the Ohio Board of regents in 1995.

http://www.regents.state.oh.us/people/noe.html


(Although he did not possess a college degree, in fact he dropped out in his first year of college)



It was during his tenure on the BOE that Diebold machines were brought into Lucas County.

"TOLEDO, Ohio, May 10, 2002 ¯ Just about every county in the nation is rushing to update their voting technology, but no county to date has done it faster than Lucas County."
<snip>
"Lucas County Board of Elections Acting Chairman Tom Noe, who was present to observe the May 7th election, was pleased with the outcome. "I don't think there is another county in the nation that has implemented touch screen voting as quickly as Lucas County did for this trial run in a primary election," Noe said. "The people of Lucas County and of Ohio in general can be proud of this achievement.""
http://www.sequoiavote.com/mediadetail.php?id=57

http://www.diebold.com/news/newsdisp.asp?id=2997

Also Mr. Noe intervened with Blackwell in a court case:

Thomas W. Noe files to intervene in Democrat court Case v. BlackwellEdited on Fri May-27-05 05:57 PM by phoebe
http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/docs/sandusky/doc5...

Also, please be aware of this information on Democratic Underground, which includes many interesting links:

</www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=203&topic_id=371800&mesg_id=371800>

There were so many problems concerning the election in Lucas County, including with the Diebold machines. Here is a report from an observer of the re-count in Lucas County:

December 22, 2004
 
Report from Recount Observer, Lucas County, Ohio
Emailed report from Lucas County, Ohio, Recount Observer:

i was a witness for the testing of the optiscan machines on tuesday the 14th.

what is puzzling to me, after the tests of the scanners were finished, the witnesses were not allowed to compare the hand count results to the printed results from the scanners. the ballots, the hand count sheets and the printed tapes were all taken away, to another room, out of sight of any witnesses and about 40 minutes later, the director comes out and tells us everything checks out.

we go to lunch and when we come back, we find ourselves waiting in the lobby. why? we were waiting for diebold to reprogram the scanners. what? didn't they just verify that everything was on the up and up? what is the need to reprogram the scanners?

also, during the testing process, one precinct, sylvania 3, continuously had the test ballots spit back out at least 3 times for approximatley 50% of them. during the election, how many times did this occur and what poll worker is going to stand there and continuosly feed the scanner to get it to scan 1 ballot? therefore, how many of the ballots were put in the spoiled pile that were really not spoiled?

another thing that was very interesting was the two people that i was witnessing actually did not know how to run the scanner. are they the type of people that were the normal who were overseeing the election? am i crazy? what is wrong with this picture?

after witnessing the fiasco of a test recount being conducted at the lucas county government center, i am definitely for scrapping this election and having a re- vote. there isn't any other way we are going to get a legitimate election.

Please also visit "Ohio Election 2004" athttp://ohioelection2004.com.

It was during his tenure on the BOE that Diebold machines were brought into Lucas County.

"TOLEDO, Ohio, May 10, 2002 ¯ Just about every county in the nation is rushing to update their voting technology, but no county to date has done it faster than Lucas County."
<snip>
"Lucas County Board of Elections Acting Chairman Tom Noe, who was present to observe the May 7th election, was pleased with the outcome. "I don't think there is another county in the nation that has implemented touch screen voting as quickly as Lucas County did for this trial run in a primary election," Noe said. "The people of Lucas County and of Ohio in general can be proud of this achievement.""
http://www.sequoiavote.com/mediadetail.php?id=57

http://www.diebold.com/news/newsdisp.asp?id=2997


RIGGING THE VOTE IN LUCAS COUNTY

Richard Hayes Phillips, Ph.D.
Revised December 24, 2004

-snip-

The very first thing we all noticed when examining the precinct
canvass records for Lucas County was the distribution of turnout.
The range is striking, and turnout is distinctly higher in the
Bush precincts than in the Kerry precincts. In some precincts
the reported turnout is too high to be credible.


PRECINCTS WITH HIGHEST TURNOUT, TOLEDO SUBURBS

Precinct Turnout Bush Kerry

MONCLOVA TOWNSHIP 10 92.67 217 161
MONCLOVA TOWNSHIP 11 92.46 424 298
SYLVANIA TOWNSHIP J 91.97 84 40
OREGON 16 89.46 186 210
MAUMEE 18 89.44 205 190
MONCLOVA TOWNSHIP 7 87.78 285 151
MONCLOVA TOWNSHIP 9 87.58 195 78
RICHFIELD TOWNSHIP 2 86.76 105 83
SYLVANIA TOWNSHIP K 86.74 338 177
SYLVANIA TOWNSHIP I 86.48 270 184
SPRINGFIELD TOWNSHIP 25 86.17 230 116
OREGON 5 86.09 382 390
MONCLOVA TOWNSHIP 5 85.96 365 181
MAUMEE 12 85.48 197 262
WATERVILLE TOWNSHIP 7 85.36 328 189
OREGON 15 85.23 189 287
YLVANIA CITY 18 85.05 434 214
SPRINGFIELD TOWNSHIP 9 84.98 297 147
SYLVANIA CITY 10 84.87 254 157
SYLVANIA CITY 21 84.87 516 295
SYLVANIA TOWNSHIP H 84.85 211 122
WATERVILLE TOWNSHIP 3 84.56 356 304
WATERVILLE TOWNSHIP 6 84.48 293 183
WATERVILLE TOWNSHIP 9 84.31 542 260
SYLVANIA TOWNSHIP CC 84.21 262 194


Turnout above 90% is almost unheard of. I have examined the
canvass records in eight other Ohio counties and have seen
reported turnout above 90% only in two precincts in Miami County
where, in my professional opinion, the election was hacked.
Miami and Lucas counties are also the only two counties whose
records I have examined that used optical scanning machines, as
confirmed by the map posted at

verifiedvoting.org/verifier/map.php?&topic_string=5std&state=Ohio



Altogether there were 63 precincts in Toledo with less than 60%
reported turnout. All of them were won overwhelmingly by John
Kerry. The vote in the aggregate was 19,353 to 4,247, more than
4.5 to 1. But look at the distribution, or more precisely, the
concentration. Of the 8 precincts with less than 50% reported
turnout, 4 are located in 2 wards. Of the 29 precincts with less
than 55% reported turnout, 20 are located in 4 wards, and 24 are
located in 6 wards. Of the 63 precincts with less than 60%
reported turnout, 34 are located in 4 wards, 39 are located in
5 wards, and 43 are located in 6 wards.




TOLEDO PRECINCTS WITH LOWEST REPORTED TURNOUT

Precinct Turnout Bush Kerry

TOLEDO 8-I 39.18 100 328
TOLEDO 18-C 44.01 28 280
TOLEDO 2-D 46.18 50 388
TOLEDO 2-A 47.40 68 275
TOLEDO 8-J 47.50 48 315
TOLEDO 19-C 49.07 117 404
TOLEDO 24-B 49.41 142 191
TOLEDO 2-I 49.91 28 237
TOLEDO 19-D 50.35 45 167
TOLEDO 17-I 50.63 78 283
TOLEDO 2-H 51.47 57 335
TOLEDO 2-G 51.63 59 346
TOLEDO 2-F 52.24 28 294
TOLEDO 18-B 52.32 47 196
TOLEDO 17-C 52.53 34 171
TOLEDO 15-J 52.61 80 271
TOLEDO 4-N 52.69 52 396
TOLEDO 7-B 52.85 72 367
TOLEDO 17-J 53.15 110 343
TOLEDO 17-F 53.46 111 475
TOLEDO 2-C 53.47 70 236
TOLEDO 15-A 53.92 84 209
TOLEDO 8-M 53.98 31 125
TOLEDO 17-H 54.22 89 286
TOLEDO 10-A 54.41 52 424
TOLEDO 6-K 54.48 20 124
TOLEDO 19-B 54.57 101 251
TOLEDO 8-F 54.65 11 222
TOLEDO 19-A 54.89 77 294
TOLEDO 24-D 55.12 206 283
TOLEDO 17-D 55.14 48 145
TOLEDO 14-F 55.42 8 216
TOLEDO 24-E 55.73 112 191
TOLEDO 19-F 55.82 91 230
TOLEDO 18-A 56.22 75 266
TOLEDO 19-E 56.25 55 188
TOLEDO 8-H 56.47 17 221
TOLEDO 6-M 56.51 77 252
TOLEDO 8-C 56.57 9 417
TOLEDO 12-E 56.81 144 291
TOLEDO 17-G 56.87 103 370
TOLEDO 19-H 56.91 75 237
TOLEDO 3-I 57.07 86 253
TOLEDO 4-E 57.14 37 254
TOLEDO 8-K 57.32 33 611
TOLEDO 20-A 57.48 62 292
TOLEDO 14-E 57.77 11 411
TOLEDO 8-L 58.02 20 515
TOLEDO 17-E 58.02 23 70
TOLEDO 8-G 58.29 13 320
TOLEDO 18-G 58.67 80 237
TOLEDO 4-H 58.75 24 278
TOLEDO 13-E 58.78 13 401
TOLEDO 6-F 58.81 167 242
TOLEDO 4-C 59.23 74 380
TOLEDO 18-I 59.56 58 261
TOLEDO 2-B 59.64 60 430
TOLEDO 10-G 59.68 9 289
TOLEDO 19-G 59.70 135 340
TOLEDO 20-I 59.78 34 127
TOLEDO 13-G 59.83 18 259
TOLEDO 13-A 59.84 11 207
TOLEDO 3-C 59.94 82 308


Altogether there were 63 precincts in Toledo with less than 60%
reported turnout. All of them were won overwhelmingly by John
Kerry. The vote in the aggregate was 19,353 to 4,247, more than
4.5 to 1. But look at the distribution, or more precisely, the
concentration. Of the 8 precincts with less than 50% reported
turnout, 4 are located in 2 wards. Of the 29 precincts with less
than 55% reported turnout, 20 are located in 4 wards, and 24 are
located in 6 wards. Of the 63 precincts with less than 60%
reported turnout, 34 are located in 4 wards, 39 are located in
5 wards, and 43 are located in 6 wards.

/web.northnet.org/minstrel/toledo.htm
http://web.northnet.org/minstrel/toledo.htm

Lucas County Democratic headquarters burglarized


A Toledo police officer leaves the scene of a burglary at Democratic Headquarters in Toledo today.
( THE BLADE/LORI KING )



The Lucas County Democratic Headquarters was burglarized overnight, and three computers, including the party’s main system, were stolen.
The computers contained highly sensitive information, including the party’s financial information, names and personal phone numbers of hundreds of party members, candidates, and volunteers.
The computers also stored e-mails from candidates that included discussion about campaign strategy.

A second computer, belonging to an attorney-volunteer working to ensure voters’ rights, also was taken, officials said. The headquarters on 1817 Madison Avenue does have an alarm system that volunteers believed they set late Monday when they left.
However, it apparently wasn’t tripped during the night. Workers arriving about 7:30 a.m. yesterday noticed the back window had been shattered and called police.

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041012/NEWS03/41012016




December 22, 2004
 
Report from Recount Observer, Lucas County, Ohio
Emailed report from Lucas County, Ohio, Recount Observer:

i was a witness for the testing of the optiscan machines on tuesday the 14th.

what is puzzling to me, after the tests of the scanners were finished, the witnesses were not allowed to compare the hand count results to the printed results from the scanners. the ballots, the hand count sheets and the printed tapes were all taken away, to another room, out of sight of any witnesses and about 40 minutes later, the director comes out and tells us everything checks out.

we go to lunch and when we come back, we find ourselves waiting in the lobby. why? we were waiting for diebold to reprogram the scanners. what? didn't they just verify that everything was on the up and up? what is the need to reprogram the scanners?

also, during the testing process, one precinct, sylvania 3, continuously had the test ballots spit back out at least 3 times for approximatley 50% of them. during the election, how many times did this occur and what poll worker is going to stand there and continuosly feed the scanner to get it to scan 1 ballot? therefore, how many of the ballots were put in the spoiled pile that were really not spoiled?

another thing that was very interesting was the two people that i was witnessing actually did not know how to run the scanner. are they the type of people that were the normal who were overseeing the election? am i crazy? what is wrong with this picture?

after witnessing the fiasco of a test recount being conducted at the lucas county government center, i am definitely for scrapping this election and having a re- vote. there isn't any other way we are going to get a legitimate election.

Please also visit "Ohio Election 2004" athttp://ohioelection2004.com.


Looking at the GEMS official results (from Lucas County BOE discs obtained through a public records request) I noticed a weird discrepancy:

First, Presidential results from Lucas:

Badnarik 294
bu$h 87,106 (39.56%)
Kerry 132,537 (60.19%)
Cobb 8
Schriner 2

TOTAL VOTES: 220,190 with 495 precinct in Lucas

Now.. there are 2 congressional districts in Lucas County: District 9 and District 5

Here are the results for DISTRICT 9 CONGRESSIONAL SEAT(which obviously includes Toledo):

Kaczala (R) 60,949
Kaptur (D) 145,998

TOTAL VOTES: 206,947 with 478 precincts

DISTRICT 5 CONGRESSIONAL SEAT:

Gillmor (R) 5,497
Weirsuch(D) 3,277

TOTAL VOTES: 8,774 with 17 precincts

********
Total Votes in the County for PRESIDENT=220,190
Total Votes for the county for CONGRESS=215,721

Now it is understandable that more people might vote for president while leaving a congress vote blank, but...

Total Dem Votes in County for President = 132,537 while
Total Dem Votes in County for Congress = 149,275

that equates to 16,738 more dem votes for congress than dem votes for president AND

Marcy KAPTUR IN DISTRICT 9 (WITH 478 PRECINCTS AND A TOTAL OF 206,947 POSSIBLE VOTES) HAD 13,461 MORE VOTES THAN KERRY!



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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:21 PM
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22. you've done your homework! Bravo!
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:30 PM
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26. I have felt Lucas County with HUGH problems plus ties to Noes, were the
key to exposing Ohio election fraud. 5 of 7 Ohio Supreme Court Justices (all Repuke) have had to recuse themselves because of ties to Noes.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:38 PM
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31. Love your NOE/BOE file, lots and lots of info. Thanks. n.t
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:19 PM
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21. Is there a way to check on Noe's family?
Brothers, sisters, wife, etc.

Nothing sinister, but there is an outside chance I may know one of them.

The last name is not too common, he is in Ohio, I went to college in Ohio, the last name is VERY familiar to me, etc.

Much appreciated if anyone can help - probably no "connection", but I'm curious now.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:32 PM
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27. Read # 19, his wife is Bernadette Noe, who was chair of the Lucas Cty BOE.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:35 PM
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29. Got that
Specifically, I'm looking to see where he was born, and if he has any siblings.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:46 PM
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32. Wowy!
You are quite the sleuth! Have you been getting this info to the prosecutors in Ohio? Congrats, you have really put the pieces together. :yourock:
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 07:41 PM
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41. I have tried sending info to the Toledo Blade, Proscectors, State Senators
but it appears no one wanted to touch anything about the election. The only one interested in this info was Harvey Wasserman of Freepress. A lot of the Noe work came from The Blade, which did an excellent job covering Noe, but avoided the election wholeheartedly.
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:22 PM
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23. "suspected of laundering money into Bush’s re-election campaign"
!!!!!!
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CatBoreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:27 PM
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24. Hmmmm... is the
???
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Alpharetta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:28 PM
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25. He's a martyr. They're criminalizing politics

That's what the commentators will say. They'll say it's part of the liberal vengeance over losing in 2004. The'll talk about how gleeful the Democrats are.

Most of them won't mention voting problems, Diebold, etc.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:32 PM
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28. Oh damn!
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:36 PM
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30. Another one bites the dust. n/t
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:48 PM
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33. He looks like a two-bit head thumper in the Joey Buttafucco mold.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:53 PM
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37. LMAO!!
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:49 PM
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34. Uh-Oh more MONEY LAUNDERING in the party of cronyism and corruption
connecting the themes of Tom Delay's trouble and Bushco's could be devastating to the Republicans...oh what am I saying? The media will never report it: no consensual sex was involved!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:52 PM
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35. Hang on Mr. Traficant your new %$#@# is on the way!
I can't stop laughing!
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 03:53 PM
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36. Amazing!
That paired with This and Fitzmas -- the GOP is falling apart at the seams!!!!!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-27-05 05:00 PM
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40. Thank you Abramhof for bringing these asses down.
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