"The earth is greener now than it was ever before."

[Deja Q]

Please help me rebuke a guy who says there are more trees and forests ever. His comments don't make sense, and somehow he thinks it's great having all the extra CO2 in the atmosphere...

[GreenPartyVoter]

1. Just look up sites on international clearcutting. They'll tell you how

many hectares a day of forest we are losing around the world.

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[Swamp Rat]

2. He may be right.

[phantom power]

3. There's probably no simple way to prove him wrong.

I'd ask him to show you statistics that back up his statement. And not just some quote, but hard data. Tables.

Recently, there is this:

Rain-Forest Damage Much Worse Than Thought
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/stories/tech/2005/oct/20/102005843.html

As far as CO2, has he enjoyed this year's hurricane season? There's plenty more where that came from.

[chelsea0011]

4. Because Global Warming is exposing more tundra?

[chalky]

5. Make him prove HIS claim. What source does he have for that, other than

his butt?

[BiggJawn]

6. Where does he think the CO2 comes from?

The trees?
If so, he's too fucking stupid to deal with.

[Deja Q]

7. CO2 comes from trees, automobile and power plant emissions,

lots of things.

However, on zdnet.com, I read an article claiming PCs emitted CO2. :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: (they generate lots of heat, but CO2 is a new one to me!)

Regarding "fucking stupid", I dunno. Definitely a bushbot though.

[BiggJawn]

12. I think he may have been thinking "O2", though.

Trees are better known for their O2 production, after all...

Ahhh...So THAT'S why old PC's die.
They run out of CO2!

[applegrove]

8. There are fewer farms in North America than in the previous 200 years.

- I mean in new England and the like. He is not talking about the world.

[amerikat]

9. I think it's , but it's a technicality that makes it so.

Millions of trees are planted each year to reforest areas that have been harvested. However I think if you were to somehow measure the standing board feet of lumber you would find it decreasing every year. Most of the large old growth forest have been cut and and are replaced by new seedlings. A new tree contains much less lumber than an old tree. Even if several seedlings are planted for each older tree that is cut the young trees need decades of growth to equal the amount of lumber in the old tree.

Does that make sense?

[applegrove]

10. Is he talking "Algae"!

[texpatriot2004]

15. Or Fungus? nm

[applegrove]

11. Swamp Land gone?

[Nikki Stone1]

13. He's repeating a talking point and unlikely to listen to science

Bet he thinks God made the earth in 6 days and played golf on the 7th.

[Syncronaut Seven]

14. You can personally tell him I've checked my pipe, and my tin.

No green anywhere in sight, not even a fucking crumb. Therefore, we can only conclude.......

We are experiencing quite a severe shortage of greenery, no info yet on ties to global warming.

:shrug:

[carolinalady]

16. Tell him to go to southern california up to the foothill mountains

you can see all the way to the ocean. It is sickening. A concrete world with token trees. That is why I moved back east.

[Mr_Spock]

17. Take a branch from a hard oak. Make a club with it. Bash his brains in

Say "you were right, there are lot's of good trees left" as you labotomize the sofofabitch. :D