Perky
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:25 PM
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NYT Reporting Rove to not be charged yet...link |
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:27 PM
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1. Get this shit out of here, I can't handle the truth |
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:27 PM
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3. We don't know if it's the truth yet!! |
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I'm taking a wait and see approach.
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:32 PM
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8. me neither! Ugh feeling sick to my stomach. |
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:27 PM
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2. Ya gotta give 'em a taste (from the above link) |
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WASHINGTON, Oct. 27 - Associates of I. Lewis Libby Jr., Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, expected an indictment on Friday charging him with making false statements to the grand jury in the C.I.A. leak inquiry, lawyers in the case said Thursday.
Karl Rove, President Bush's senior adviser and deputy chief of staff, will not be charged on Friday, but will remain under investigation, people briefed officially about the case said. As a result, they said, the special counsel in the case, Patrick J. Fitzgerald, was likely to extend the term of the federal grand jury beyond its scheduled expiration on Friday.
As rumors coursed through the capital, Mr. Fitzgerald gave no public signal of how he intends to proceed, further intensifying the anxiety that has gripped the White House and left partisans on both sides of the political aisle holding their breath.
Mr. Fitzgerald's preparations for a Friday announcement were shrouded in secrecy, but advanced amid a flurry of behind-the-scenes discussions that left open the possibility of last-minute surprises. As the clock ticked down on the grand jury, people involved in the case did not rule out the disclosure of previously unknown aspects of the case.
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:28 PM
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Rove may have agreed to testify against Libby and perhaps Cheney. The grand jury is being kept open to assure cooperation
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:33 PM
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9. so there is nothing left in our system to get these criminals? |
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Like Plaid Adder posted- this is the one way we have left within our system to bring these criminals to justice...
... and they can just cut deals?
:( :( :( :(
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:38 PM
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17. Well, if Fitz is smart, he will only cut deals to get bigger fish |
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Wait and see. I'm sick of all these rumors. I won't believe anything until it actuallly goes down.
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:41 PM
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19. a good point- and hey- what does your name refer to? |
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This might be a long shot but my sister is at Clark University and is always talking about "clarkies" :)
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:43 PM
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23. Refers to the good General, my first candidate last year |
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when I switched, I used to refer to myself as "Just a little Clarkie for Kerry". Somebody liked the "Little Clarkie" part, and so it stuck.
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:44 PM
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25. cool- I thought it was a long shot :) |
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:29 PM
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:44 PM
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.... this is getting to be like Desparate Housewives - no sooner than one thing is cleared up, 3 more take it's place.
It's a frikkin soap opera!
I'm just praying for something to land tomorrow!!!!!!!!
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:29 PM
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6. bu$h Going To Camp David? |
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Did I hear somewhere today that that's where nixon fired Halderman & the rest? (I forget who else).
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:30 PM
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7. So Rove must've ratted out Libby . . . and maybe that led to Cheney? |
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:35 PM
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13. SCooter will be pissed if He goes down alone (The new John Dean) |
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He will name names and open the door to more perjury charges throughout the WH
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:33 PM
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10. I was told by someone who spoke with const. lawyers that |
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Fitz really can't extend this grand jury (except maybe from a Friday to a Monday due to illness or something quickly resolved) and that he will have to call a new grand jury. He can't extend it well into Nov., for example.
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:36 PM
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14. I was worried it wasn't this simple. |
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"For cases involving complex and long-term investigations (such as those involving organized crime, drug conspiracies or political corruption), "long term" grand juries will be impaneled. Such "long term" grand juries typically sit fewer days each week, and their terms can be extended in six month increments for up to three years." http://www.abanet.org/media/faqjury.html
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:37 PM
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15. So whatever it is, he's continuing the investigation |
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new or old grand jury. Whatever's necessary.
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:34 PM
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11. Reporting this on CNN now n/t |
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:35 PM
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12. god, I hope it's not just Libby |
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What a bummer that would be
I want Rove and/or Cheney.
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:40 PM
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18. I know, I know, I think I might even cry. |
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I'll try to wait until Fitzgerald speaks tomorrow to feel fully let down.
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:37 PM
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16. Remember, everything coming from the media is not from the prosecutor. |
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Sources are identified as WH sources throughout the story. Pay attention to this little nugget:
"Mr. Fitzgerald's preparations for a Friday announcement were shrouded in secrecy, but advanced amid a flurry of behind-the-scenes discussions that left open the possibility of last-minute surprises. As the clock ticked down on the grand jury, people involved in the case did not rule out the disclosure of previously unknown aspects of the case."
In other words, all the Times knows is what the target lawyers are leaking. They WISH they knew what Fitz is gonna do.
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:41 PM
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20. Rove not to be charged |
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If Fitz could only hook the Turd to the uranium cake fraud... "America tricked into War"..."Governance by Deceit"
On the other hand, can anyone believe the NYT?
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:43 PM
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24. I thought they said "Not going to be charged on Friday" |
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and that he is still under investigation. Nobody jump off the cliff yet!
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Fri Oct-28-05 08:29 AM
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:42 PM
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Please go to google.com and enter the word 'failure'. Then press the 'i'm feeling lucky button' instead of 'search'. It's now official!
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Fri Oct-28-05 08:30 AM
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:42 PM
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yesterday when I heard on TV that Fitiz had met with KKKarl's lawyer (I can't recall his name) in the lawyer's office, and that the two are good friends. I was afraid a deal was being struck.
Well, it's not over till it's over. I hope that ultimately KKKarl and Cheney go down along with Scooter.
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Thu Oct-27-05 09:54 PM
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27. Libby now, and Rove to be continued-- |
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Patrick Fitzgerald found something.
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Thu Oct-27-05 10:04 PM
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28. Operative. Sentence. Here. |
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Mr. Fitzgerald's spokesman, Randall Samborn, declined to comment.
Come on y'all. BREATHE. BREATHE. BREATHE. Get a paper bag out, hold it over your mouth and breathe slowly in and out. THEN, read the story again.
And there's this: "people briefed officially about the case said" Who the hell are "people".
Wait for official word on PF's website or the press conference tomorrow.
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Thu Oct-27-05 10:07 PM
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29. NO! I don't believe the lie! |
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Why?! Why do you lie??
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Thu Oct-27-05 10:13 PM
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30. the rove/italian connection |
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maybe Fitz needs more time to investigate the very "rovian" italian letterhead theft/forgery angle that just turned up this week? :shrug:
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