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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:26 AM
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State told Libby of agent's identity_ Richard Sale on Bolton, Fleitz,Wurms
But several former and serving U.S. intelligence officials strongly disputed this. "That is simply not accurate," a very former senior CIA official told this repoter. "Libby's notes on this are misleading and inaccurate or both."
This source, supported by three others, alleged that it was a telephone call from the Department of State that first gave Libby the name of Plame.
So Tenet resigns the same day Bush retains private Counsel,people like Feinstein comment on the odd timeing of Tenets resignation. A few days ago Cheney claims he got the info from Tenet. Cheney lies pathologically. Now FOUR intel sources say the info came from Bolton's office. Either Freitz or Wurmser.

Don't know if this has been posted yet, but it is interesting. Tenet denies Cheney's accusation, and now a former and very senior CIA source points the finger at Bolton. Just as we thought.
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/


" The name of the caller? No one is sure. But these sources said that the call defintely came from the State Department office of John Bolton, then the arms control chief of the department.
These same sources alleged that two employees of Bolton, David Wurmser, a virullent pro-war hawk, first told Libby that Valerie Plame had sent Wilson to Niger to attempt to discredit the administration's line on Iraq's nuclear weapons programs.
These same intelligence sources alleged that Wurmser, as Bolton's special assistant, got his knowledge of Plame's classified identity from a colleague in his office, Frederick Fleitz, a CIA officer detailed to Bolton's office from the agency who worked in the CIA's Weapons Intelligence Non-Proliferation and Arms Control Center (WINIPAC.)
"We do not know yet which of the two called," the former very senior intelligence official said.
"We are almost positive the outing of Plame came from State," said another former senior U.S. intelligence officiel.
But he and others insisted that Fleitz had knowledge of Plame and her cover.
Fleitz, still at the State Department, is on leave and could not be reached for comment."
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:04 AM
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1. Two more pieces: important info from Hersh & Huffington on Bolton & Fleitz
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 01:13 AM by Nothing Without Hope
Yes, this is what many of us have been thinking for a long time.

Here are two relevant excerpts for those who are not familiar with Fleitz and with Bolton's rabid hyping of the Iraq War and demand for "raw intel" which was stovepiped into the Bush Administration to support the claims on which the cause for war was based:

Here is investigative reporter Seymour Hersh on Bolton in his important 2003 exposé on the OSP and the drive to war:

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?031027fa_fact

THE STOVEPIPE


How conflicts between the Bush Administration and the intelligence community marred the reporting on Iraq’s weapons.
by SEYMOUR M. HERSH
Issue of 2003-10-27
Posted 2003-10-20

(snip)

A few months after George Bush took office, Greg Thielmann, an expert on disarmament with the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research, or INR, was assigned to be the daily intelligence liaison to John Bolton, the Under-Secretary of State for Arms Control, who is a prominent conservative. Thielmann understood that his posting had been mandated by Secretary of State Colin Powell, who thought that every important State Department bureau should be assigned a daily intelligence officer. “Bolton was the guy with whom I had to do business,” Thielmann said. “We were going to provide him with all the information he was entitled to see. That’s what being a professional intelligence officer is all about.”

But, Thielmann told me, “Bolton seemed to be troubled because INR was not telling him what he wanted to hear.” Thielmann soon found himself shut out of Bolton’s early-morning staff meetings. “I was intercepted at the door of his office and told, ‘The Under-Secretary doesn’t need you to attend this meeting anymore.’” When Thielmann protested that he was there to provide intelligence input, the aide said, “The Under-Secretary wants to keep this in the family.”

Eventually, Thielmann said, Bolton demanded that he and his staff have direct electronic access to sensitive intelligence, such as foreign-agent reports and electronic intercepts. In previous Administrations, such data had been made available to under-secretaries only after it was analyzed, usually in the specially secured offices of INR. The whole point of the intelligence system in place, according to Thielmann, was “to prevent raw intelligence from getting to people who would be misled.” Bolton, however, wanted his aides to receive and assign intelligence analyses and assessments using the raw data. In essence, the under-secretary would be running his own intelligence operation, without any guidance or support. “He surrounded himself with a hand-chosen group of loyalists, and found a way to get C.I.A. information directly,” Thielmann said.

In a subsequent interview, Bolton acknowledged that he had changed the procedures for handling intelligence, in an effort to extend the scope of the classified materials available to his office.
“I found that there was lots of stuff that I wasn’t getting and that the INR analysts weren’t including,” he told me. “I didn’t want it filtered. I wanted to see everything—to be fully informed. If that puts someone’s nose out of joint, sorry about that.” Bolton told me that he wanted to reach out to the intelligence community but that Thielmann had “invited himself” to his daily staff meetings. “This was my meeting with the four assistant secretaries who report to me, in preparation for the Secretary’s 8:30 a.m. staff meeting,” Bolton said. “This was within my family of bureaus. There was no place for INR or anyone else—the Human Resources Bureau or the Office of Foreign Buildings.”

(snip)


And Arianna Huffington on Fleitz, the former Bolton chief aide who was his conduit into CIA intelligence:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/plamegate-the-john-bolto_b_7648.html

Plamegate: The John Bolton Connection


09.20.2005

(snip)

According to two sources, Bolton's former chief of staff, Fred Fleitz, was at least one of the sources of the classified information about Valerie Plame that flowed through the Bush administration and eventually made its way into Bob Novak's now infamous column.

(snip)

He is a career CIA agent who Bolton handpicked to join him at Foggy Bottom, having gotten to know him during the administration of the first President Bush. While working as Bolton's top aide, Fleitz also continued his work in the CIA's WINPAC division, the group responsible for some of the worst prewar intelligence on Iraq (for instance, they were, among other things, big fans of Curveball and had "high confidence" in the presence of WMD in Iraq).

(snip)

Over the years, Fleitz earned a reputation as Bolton's chief enforcer, a swashbuckler willing to go the extra mile to make the intel fit the desired policy -- even if it meant knocking a few heads. And his dual role (serving what he called his "two bosses") put him in the position to pick up -- and deliver to Bolton -- all kinds of information… including, perhaps, the spousal standing of a certain CIA analyst named Valerie. Even though Plame was in operations and Fleitz was in WINPAC, he obviously was in a position to know.

(snip)

So what does this all mean to the ongoing Plamegate investigation? Well, another source close to Bolton recently described his management style to me as "Very hands on. Nothing goes by him. His staff does what he wants. He's not the kind of guy to have his staffers freelancing." So, if Fleitz was a key source of the Plame info and Bolton is not the kind of guy to have his staffers freelancing… does this mean Bolton was being less than forthcoming when he told people, in the words of my source, that "the first time he ever heard Valerie Plame's name was when he read it in the newspaper"? Or was he merely sharing talking points with Tim Russert?

(snip)


When Bolton visited Judy Miller in jail, he wouldn't have had to say anything inciminating - his mere presence there would have made clear the threatened consequences if those aspen roots didn't stay connected.

Recommended.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:12 AM
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2. Here is the PERMALINK of the cited piece in the opening post:
http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2005/10/state_told_libb.html

(The link given in the OP is to the home page of the blog)
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:31 AM
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3. I like this thread very, very much. Thanks caligirl and NWH.
I just love it when pieces come together. It's like looking at fine art. An aesthetic pleasure.

Recommended. :)
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 02:12 AM
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4. KICK
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 03:44 AM
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5. Ray McGovern: John Bolton's Yellowcake (May 2005 article)
An interesting read that also mentions Bolton's conduit and hatchet man, Fleitz. Here's an excerpt from the article:

Painful as it is to bring up the embarrassing canard about Iraq seeking uranium in Niger, that sad chapter illustrates how Bolton operates when he knows he cannot bully intelligence community analysts to come up with the desired "analysis." Before President Bush's key speech on Oct. 7, 2002, setting the stage for Congress' vote on the war three days later, then-CIA director Tenet personally intervened to prevent the president from using spurious "intelligence" on the alleged attempts to acquire "yellowcake" (slightly enriched uranium) from Africa.

Just two months later, however, this canard reappeared in an official State Department "Fact Sheet" dated Dec. 19, debunking Baghdad's submission to the UN Security Council accounting for Iraqi weapons programs. The "Fact Sheet" directly cited the "yellowcake" deal as proof that Saddam Hussein was lying to the United States about his nuclear program (which had been "reconstituted" only in the rhetoric of Bolton's patron, Dick Cheney)...

...What accounts for new life being injected into this canard? We learned some time ago from a former senior Bush State Department official that the impetus came from Bolton's office. And now we have documentary proof, thanks to a State Department Inspector General investigation, the results of which were shared with a congressional subcommittee. In sum, when Bolton realized that the Iraq-Niger report itself left most analysts holding their noses (even before it was established that it was based on crude forgeries), his office inserted the bogus story into the official State Department "Fact Sheet" without clearing it with the department's own intelligence analysts. Easy.

This strongly suggests that it was also no accident that a month later the yellowcake fable found its way into the president's State of the Union address. Bolton's rogue operation ensured the subsequent embarrassment of one and all when the head of the UN's International Atomic Energy Agency, Mohammed ElBaradei, declared the reports "not authentic," forcing both White House officials and George Tenet to apologize. http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern/?articleid=5934

One White House official who took responsibility for the 16 words being in the state of the union was Hadley, Condi's Deputy. Hadley also reportedly "helped" Tenet with his apology.

As recently revealed as a result of an Italian newspaper's reporting, Hadley met with Italy's SSMI director Pollari in Washington DC on September 9, 2002. The SSMI had been pushing the Niger yellowcake claim. Apparently this meeting has been confirmed to American Prospect mag by US NSC spokesman.

A month later, October 9, the forged Niger docs were delivered to the US Embassy in Rome.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:25 AM
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7. Interesting! A lot of DUers have suspected Bolton for some time.
For example, check out the replies in this recent thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5158687
thread title: Who told Dick Cheney?
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:50 AM
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11. I have doubted the Niger forgeries were done in US theory only
because I thought it more probable that they were done in Rome. Now it looks to me like they were constructed in Bolton's office.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:57 AM
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13. Personally, I think Bolton murdered John Kokal.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:21 AM
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6. Kick - let's keep collecting pieces and build this into a resource n/t
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:30 AM
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8. Steve Clemons (The Washington Note) on the Bolton connection:
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 04:34 AM by Nothing Without Hope
http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/001026.html
October 24, 2005

Libby's Source Was Vice President Richard Cheney -- Not Journalists



(snip)

The question is how did Libby then churn up more info on Wilson without other parts of the "untrusted" bureaucracy spitting in his face or reporting his sins?

My hunch is that he went to trusted spear-carriers for Vice President Cheney -- the office and staff of Under Secretary of State John Bolton. Fred Fleitz, Bolton's chief of staff, maintained his CIA WINPAC portfolio and access as an active duty CIA staff member while he operated as Bolton's "acting" chief of staff. We know that Fleitz was a key part of the intelligence cherry-picking/stove-piping operation when it came to both the intel and policy response to various global WMD concerns -- in North Korea, Libya, Iran, and Iraq.

We also know that David Wurmser and John Hannah, who have both apparently cooperated after threats of legal action (i.e., time behind bars) with Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald worked both for John Bolton's operation and the Vice President's office.

I recently consulted with a number of senior State Department officials about the level of interaction between Vice President Cheney's office and John Bolton's office -- and was informed that there was "intense" exchange between them, constant. One said that "Bolton and his team were operatives of Vice President Cheney inside the State Department establishment -- there to subvert Armitage and Powell wherever they could, and if not subvert, then there to spy on the them and report back.

(snip)
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:35 AM
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9. Yeah, I was wondering about Libby's notes, too. Come to think of it,
what was to prevent him from creating several sets of notes, for different potential exposure contingencies?

In his "aspens" letter, he tells Miller he's to be the fall guy; it's all agreed; she can come out now. He'll be vacationing in jail, like she had been. He's protecting their deeply rooted plans for war on Iran (and Syria); she should "come back to work--and life" to help propagandize those stories.

Then he selects the sets of notes he'd prepared for that eventuality (and others purposes he may have), and hands over only those notes.

I don't know anything about how prosecutors guard against such deceit, but I gather Fitzgerald is a topnotch prosecutor, so we'll see.

-------------

I continued to be puzzled by...

1. The crudeness of the forgeries. These guys were not amateurs. It's like they were bait.

2. The wild goose chase to Niger, to investigate an allegation everybody in the cabal knew to be bogus. (Then, the strenuous effort to get somebody to say it--Bush, then Powell (who declined)).

3. And the same phenomenon at the other end of this story: setting up Judith Miller in Iraq, with a special "embed" contract from Rumsfeld, and priming the public, for a find of WMDs they all knew weren't there.

4. Also, they must have been expecting Wilson's article, after all the stink he was raising about the matter internally. But if they were setting the CIA or Wilson up in some way, why would they take such risks in the way they did the coup de grace (outing Plame/BJ)--calling at least six reporters (six journalist witnesses to treason), etc., putting many top Bushites at high risk? What was the hurry?

I do have a theory. They intended to plant nukes or nuke material in Iraq, for Miller to "find." This would make the 'white hat' CIA look like fools (for having said "no nukes in Iraq"). But they got discovered, and the second part of their nefarious scheme got foiled (somebody prevented the illicit movement of nukes). Maybe Plame/BJ. Maybe David Kelly. Maybe somebody else. But they couldn't afford to leave any stray whistleblowers around, so they outed or killed everybody they suspected.

Anybody else have a theory for these mysteries (1-4)?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 04:45 AM
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10. Peace Patriot, I read your very plausible theory on the Iraq WMD "search"
and now it is my theory too. It fits everything so very well, and I've seen nothing else that does. For those who have not read Peace Patriot's theory, here's a post of it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5049555

By the way, there was a statement in The Washington Note some time back that Bolton was a regular source for Judy Miller. (I don't have a link handy.)
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 06:39 AM
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12. Question: why is Fleitz on leave from the State Dept? Has anyone come
across that info? (I'm assuming "on leave" as on "leave of absence" rather than just vacation.) Just curious...so many investigations and people sometimes take leave as a result.

Not suggesting that is the case, of course. Perhaps he's just off enjoying some Fall color...as the aspens turn. ;)
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 07:33 AM
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14. kick
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 09:11 AM
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15. bttft
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-05 04:37 PM
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17. what does "bttft" mean?
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 10:19 AM
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16. another kick, until Bolton is behind bars no one is safe.
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