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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:34 AM
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Why Libby, and why him only?
flash back to Spiro Agnew and Watergate... they first had to get rid fo the VEEP, before they went after nixon... this is the same kind of a scneario folks...

Now the quesiton is not who is going to be the VEEPs Chief of Staff... but who will be the next Prseident? They are working now, I am betting, the powers that be, on a care cater government. This is the only way to avoid a constitutional crisis getting out of hand

In other words, this is a HUGE deal and weclome to Watergate II... strap in... the ride is about to get very bumpy.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:35 AM
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1. still building the case against others, I'd imagine
But, i've been out of the loop all week.

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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:44 AM
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19. I think so too
He is renting an office space in DC apparently so that should show something. And I think there was new information given this week too.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:46 AM
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23. The renting space was debunked already
but he is still building a case, he is doing what you do with RICO cases
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:36 AM
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2. Nobody has said, "Only Libby."
Nobody.

They've only said, Libby but probably not Rove.
They haven't said a peep about anybody else, positive or negative.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:38 AM
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10. Look don't get hystercial
the news feed I have heard all morning, from AAR has been only libby... now if we get more I will be happy, but Libby is that lynchpin... and it is just the begining

Strap in... the ride is bout to get very bumpy
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:39 AM
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12. Fitzgerald is the only one who knows what charges he will bring.
Sorry, but no one (AAR included) knows anything until the information is made public.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:42 AM
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14. Geezyus I think we all realize this
thank you though
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:36 AM
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3. Yep. I've been saying all along, this is about
getting Cheney.

Whether it goes to Bush, who knows.

But I'd be satisfied with removing the Cheney team.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:36 AM
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4. Tip of the iceberg
Libby's indictment is the only one being announced TODAY, but the investigation is not being closed. So, it's not the end of the story.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:44 AM
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20. Bingo
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:36 AM
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5. Libby is the tip of the iceberg
It's time for a meltdown.
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:37 AM
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6. You don't know that only the folks in the courtroom do. Salon slammed NYT
over that article.

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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:37 AM
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7. I have a feeling that if you are in the visual range of Mr. Fitzgerald
in regard to wrongdoing, you should not assume anything. He will get you and be smart about it.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:38 AM
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8. And all this is fodder for '06
The coattails will be so ragged, GOP candidates will be running from W.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:40 AM
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13. They already are
a gubernatoriall governor refused to stand in the stage with george hell today... and don't ask me for the link, I kind of don't have it at the tip of my tongue

;-)

Just say the article here on DU
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:42 AM
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17. Not to worry - I remember that, too
Not the details - but that it happened. Thanks for the reminder!
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:47 AM
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24. I feel very concerned. Cheney has to be a target. If he resigns
and they put Jeb in, they win.

Someone needs to start busting Jeb NOW.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 12:45 PM
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25. That cannot happen it is illegal
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 05:34 PM
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27. What would make it illegal?
Stupid yes, but why illegal?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:38 AM
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9. Actually the Agnew case wasn't related to Watergate
it was a seperate investigation of his taking bribes to award contracts when he was Governor of Md and continued to accept payments as VP.

But your point is well taken, obviously if the Chief of Staff knew, then it is likely Cheney knew or was the leaker. Also, how far up does it go?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:45 AM
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21. Talking procedure
which means if they go directly after bush you are taking Hastert, if they go first after chenney you can appoint someobdy who is NOT in the chain of succession and make sure it is a capable person. Kind of softeting the blow
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:38 AM
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11. Who is "they" in the Nixon scenario?
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 11:38 AM by LoZoccolo
It was some reporters who started the attack on Nixon, and they didn't even really know it would end up there. The two things are unconnected and not coordinated by the same people, much less planned in sequence for a strategic advantage.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:42 AM
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15. Spiro Agnew
resigned after pleading no contest to tax evasion charges, which stemmed from taking brides while governor of Maryland. It had nothing to do with Watergate, although Agnew always felt that it had been Nixon who had pushed the case against him to divert attention away from the watergate scandal.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:43 AM
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18. We all know the differences
but I am talking here of a the procedure in order to avoid a real bad constitutional crisis... they need to remove the Veep before they remove the Pres... unless you want the succesion chain to come into play and you can say President Hastert
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 05:33 PM
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26. Who exactly is "they"?
I didn't realize the Plame investigation was a coup.
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Nightjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:42 AM
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16. Sing Libby, sing!
Sing like a canary... get a lighter sentence. Send all the bush fucknuts to jail!
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 11:45 AM
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22. He was the first thrown under the bus...
...and the one they had enough corroborating, consistent and cross-validated evidence regarding...
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