#9, p.5: "On or about June 12, 2003, LIBBY was advised by the Vice ...

[understandinglife]

.... President of the United States that Wilson's wife worked at the Central Intelligence Agency in the Counterproliferation Division. LIBBY understood that the Vice President had learned this information from the CIA."

Link:
http://www.dcd.uscourts.gov/04ms407-I.pdf

This is just beginning .....


Peace.

[unblock]

1. 2003, not 2005 :)

thanks for posting this.

:hi:

[understandinglife]

2. Rock-on!!! Thanks!!!

:yourock:


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[Rose Siding]

3. More: Page 3: Addresses the SOTU "16 words" (so it will come up in trial)

Update: Documents now up at Smoking Gun.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1028051plame1.html
_______________________

Indictment read:

Pages 1 & 2: Establish background that Libby had access to and knowledge of proper handling of classified materials. Shows that Libby signed his SF-312 on 1/23/01 for clearance.

Page 3: Addresses the SOTU "16 words" issue -- meaning this will definitely come up at trial, if there is one.

Page 4: All of this deals with the actions that show that Libby's attempts to cover things were bunk -- and that the SPecial Prosecutor had substantial cooperation.

On 5/29/03: Asked Undersecretary of State about information on Amb. trip to Niger.

On 6/11/03 or 6/12/03, Libby was advised by USoS, that Wilson's wife worked for CIA and that she was involved in him going on the trip. (Can you say Bolton? Or Wurmser?)

On 6/11/03, Libby spoke with Senior CIA Officer re: Wilson and his wife. (Can you say Fleitz? Or Tenet?)

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/10/indictment.html

[WiseButAngrySara]

4. BEAUTIFUL !!! Thanks. n/t

[understandinglife]

7. Yes, these details on p.13 are essential. And, for them to begin with ...

.... specific statements regarding LIBBY's responsibilities by virtue of his signing an SF312 and the binding obligations to both him and his superiors, via EO 12958 .... MOST EXCELLENT.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

35. "this case was about all of our security, now and in the future. And it's

... NOT OVER."

I'll say this: after watching Fitz, anyone who tries to raise the question of whether perjury is a "technicality" is going to end up looking like a moron. Because that clip of him explaining the importance and ethics of the rule of law in an investigation was exceptional. And the multiple allegations of false statements and testimony point to a considered pattern on the part of Libby.

This reaches to the very heart of how this Administration conducts itself. This reaches to the very heart of how they operate in shutting down any and all criticism -- inside and outside the government. And there are going to be some very difficult questions for them to answer.

And Fitz is not done yet. Not by a long shot. You could see in his demeanor, and you can read it in the indictment -- there is a whole lot more to this.

ReddHedd at firedoglake:

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/10/initial-strike.html

Good to read that from a former prosecutor.


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[WiseButAngrySara]

5. I love your posts USL. Thanks....n/t

[geekgrrl]

6. yeah but wouldn't Libby have security clearance?

I hate to play devil's advocate- but wouldn't it be VERY HARD (although I hope not impossible) to prove that not only did he get the info from but that Cheney intended him to do something with it- to attack Wilson?

[NYC Liberal]

9. Unless Libby squeals like a pig, which he probably will to save himself.

[geekgrrl]

11. I hope that is true- I really do- but I am not convinced.

I don't think any of them will give up on any of them. They are like frat brothers or something- standing by each other and covering for each other. I would think Libby would just take the fall for the admin. But maybe I am wrong. I hope I am wrong.

[understandinglife]

12. In fact, he does, and that is why the indictment begins the way it does.

Read page 1 and page 2. He is bound by his SF312 and he and his supervisor(s) are bound by EO 12958. That is what makes all of what he did such a serious matter. That he is being cited in this indictment with Obstruction of Justice, Perjury and False Statements points the cannon at those who he was attempting to protect.

This is just the beginning ....

I'm 58. I lived in Georgetown DC from 1971 to 1979. I, for many reasons, got to observe "Watergate" from numerous perspectives. Not only are the core crimes in this case much worse, but the scale of coverup is at least as great, if not more. Much more will unfold in the days, weeks, and months ahead.


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[geekgrrl]

17. thanks understandinglife- I will try to stay positive!

Jeez these last 5 years have been a test of my usual positive outlook on the world...

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

37. I was 18 when Watergate broke wide open

This situation reminds me of that time, with the long time to develop into major news, etc. The Nixon Whitehouse was just as secretive and paranoid as W's.

OTOH, Nixon was much smarter than W. He was surrounded with a bunch of hard-case tough guys, not chicken hawks.

I could see Plamegate unraveling this administration very, very quickly.

[unblock]

18. but cheney can only legally tell someone with a "need to know"

the fact that libby then (further) leaked plame's name is prima facia evidence that cheney's purpose in telling libby was for libby to do exactly what libby did.

now cheney has to come up with a plausible defense as to WHY he told libby. if he can't produce some evidence of an internal deliberation, policy discussion, etc., some reason that libby NEEDED to know plame's name, then any jury would likely reason that the point of telling libby was for the leak.

and that's criminal, even if libby had clearance.

[understandinglife]

19. Bang on corrrect. And, "Randall Samborn, said the investigation will ...

.... continue but with a new grand jury."

Just the beginning ...


Peace.

[ItsTheMediaStupid]

38. It's like peeling an onion, isn't it?

Libby had no reason to know, so now we have Cheney for divulging information in violation of the law.

[understandinglife]

45. Yes. Very, very few people ever have a need to know information ...

... like the identity of covert operatives.

What folk who have not had security clearances sometimes fail to appreciate is that you can have mega-security clearances and you and the person sharing classified information with you both must adhere to need to know.

You are not allowed, with your super-dooper security clearance to just roam around looking at classified stuff.

And, when you are passing classified information it is your responsibility not only to ensure the recipient has the proper clearance, you also are responsible for determining their 'need to know.'


Peace.

[understandinglife]

52. And, the NY Times peels another layer for Sunday's edition:

In Indictment's Wake, a Focus on Cheney's Powerful Role

By ELISABETH BUMILLER and ERIC SCHMITT

WASHINGTON, Oct. 29 - Vice President Dick Cheney makes only three brief appearances in the 22-page federal indictment that charges his chief of staff, I. Lewis Libby, with lying to investigators and misleading a grand jury in the C.I.A. leak case. But in its clear, cold language, it lifts a veil on how aggressively Mr. Cheney's office drove the rationale against Saddam Hussein and then fought to discredit the Iraq war's critics.

The document now raises a central question: how much collateral damage has Mr. Cheney sustained?

Link:

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/30/politics/30cheney.html?ei=5094&en=d599c390429480e0&hp=&ex=1130644800&partner=homepage&pagewanted=print

Oh, he's sustained way more than collateral damage.


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[progressivejazz]

53. YES!

I started a thread with this very same theme. We should be pounding this.

[lovuian]

8. Thanks you for putting that up!!!

lov ya!!!

[DoYouEverWonder]

10. Yep, that blows the White House's bullshit

out of the water.

They all lied. They all obstructed justice. And it was a conspiracy.

[rodeodance]

13. this indictment IS about the COVERUP.

[understandinglife]

14. Yes, and certain of them committed major crimes. This truly is ...

... just the beginning.


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[Loge23]

15. That's the way it's looking

Libby is minor shit compared to what's ahead. Fitz just swept the debris out of the way.

[understandinglife]

20. "One point, Libby's counsel was present with him at every interview.

Very good to know -- no question that Libby was tricked into making false or misleading statements or anything along those lines.

There is substantial documentation of facts on every single one of these counts. Fitz is really thorough. Impressive, but expected from a US Attorney.

Much more at the link:
http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/10/indictment.html

WHACK.

Peace.

[rox63]

16. It also says

That Cheney got his info from an unnamed under-secretary at the State Dept. Wanna bet it's Bolton?

[understandinglife]

23. I think that's a safe bet, though you might want to hedge and add Fleitz.

;)


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[understandinglife]

21. Fitzgerald: "In an investigation concerning the compromise of a CIA ...

.... officer’s identity, it is especially important that grand jurors learn what really happened. The indictment returned today alleges that the efforts of the grand jury to investigate such a leak were obstructed when Mr. Libby lied about how and when he learned and subsequently disclosed classified information about Valerie Wilson,” he added.

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The indictment alleges that Libby had frequent access to classified information and frequently spoke with officials of the U.S. intelligence community and other government officials regarding sensitive national security matters. With his responsibilities for national security matters, Libby held security clearances giving him access to classified information. Libby was obligated by federal criminal statute, regulations, executive orders, and a written non disclosure agreement not to disclose classified information to unauthorized persons, and to properly safeguard classified information against unauthorized disclosure.

Link:

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/documents/libby_pr_28102005.pdf

I do not read anywhere that the current indictment is ALL that LIBBY could be charged.


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[understandinglife]

30. Fitzgerald: "people who work at CIA have to expect when they do their jobs

... their jobs will be protected. Should not expect to have something bad happening within your own government.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=5207329&mesg_id=5207359

That, combined with the fact that he will not reveal the damage done by outing Valerie Plame Wilson tells you he is far from finished kicking butt.


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[EVDebs]

40. The who, what, and how are givens...I note he said he's looking into WHY

And this means he has to look into what Alan Friedman's book

Spider's Web: The Secret History of How the White House Illegally Armed Iraq
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/17/1615235

has already shown were illegal acts. Is GWBush's CIA leak case going to expose the crimes of the Reagan and GHWBush administrations ? If Fitzgerald is truly going to get at "Why" was Valerie Plame's name was leaked he will be forced to do just that.

If there were no WMDs in Saddam's Iraq and prior administrations had supplied any precursors etc to any WMDs Saddam could have conceivably obtained, then it stands to reason that as with any good coverup having the ability to DO the coverup becomes paramount.

Those who get in the way of any coverups, such as whistleblowing State dept officials and their NOC wives to boot, stand in the way of getting the truth out and undercut the coverup storyline that the media swallows whole.

Will Fitzgerald dare to 'go there' ?

[understandinglife]

42. I think he has. The "throw dirt in the umpire's face" statement ...

... suggests he's well into the "why" or "motive" phase.

What we do know now is that "bulldog" is an understatement and this particular "bulldog" does not like anyone kicking dirt in its face.


Peace.

[Amonester]

22. K & R

Very good!



Why just 1 vote so far? :shrug:

[Dora]

24. K&R: I hope Cheney gets some rest this weekend.

He's going to need it. He has a weak heart, y'know. All this stress just can't be good for him.
:nopity:

[understandinglife]

25. He's never seen stress in his life like he's gonna see it now. Wilson's ..

... lawyer scheduled to make a press statement from the front steps of the US Court House, this afternoon at 3pm EDT. Wonder if they'll delay it if Mr Fitzgerald's presser goes past 3pm EDT?


Peace.

[understandinglife]

26. A Huffington: "Fitzgerald's Libby High Five Puts the Focus on Iraq"

The five counts against Scooter Libby is a high five for those of us who have been saying (ad nauseum, ad infinitum) that the heart of Plamegate has always been the way this administration did everything in its power to cover up the lies and deceptions it used to lead us into a reckless and unnecessary war.

2 counts of perjury. 2 counts of making false statements. 1 count of obstruction of justice. These charges will keep the focus squarely on the cover up and will allow the American people to finally get a look into the nuts and bolts of how the White House Iraq Group marketed the war.

The lies that led us to war -- and the lies used to cover up those lies -- are about to go prime time. Stockpiles of WMD, Niger yellowcake, aluminum tubes, smoking guns that are mushroom clouds, unmanned drones, chemical weapons ready to launch in 45 minutes, "slam dunk" intel. These will all at long last get the through public going-over they never got.

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/fitzgeralds-libby-high-f_b_9696.html

Correct.


Peace.

[Jacobin]

27. Whoop! There it is. In Black and Fucking White

Dickless Cheney sent his capo to pop Wilson....


Cheney is in it up to his double chin

[understandinglife]

28. Yes. And, now we await when Don Bushalone blessed the hit from AF1.

One can only wonder how verses of that song Rover sang on Tuesday.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

29. WHACK -- Fitzgerald: "4 US government officials told Libby about Plame ...

... including an undersecretary of state AND CHENEY!!

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/fitzgerald-press-conference-now.html

I think LIBBY has already sung at the top of his lungs and that is why he is not facing 18 USC 793 and IIPA charges.

But, those that divulged and those that approved of his actions ... well we know the Rover's been singing at the top of his lungs, as well.

At least government officials, and W have some rough days ahead.

Just beginning .....


Peace.

[crispini]

39. Why would Fitz indict Libby if he was singing?

I doubt he is singing. He might in the future, but I doubt he is singing now.

[understandinglife]

43. I'm being a bit provocative by making that statement ;)

Just want everyone to consider the scenario that LIBBY already knows, and has known for some time, that he's going to face more than what is explicit in the indictment.

He could be quite helpful to Fitzgerald by being indicted on those charges because now W, Cheney, Bolton, Condi, Wurmser, Hadley, Leeden, Hannah, Fleitz, ....., have something to be truly frightened, i.e., exactly what you indicate "oh, ....., he'll sing." But, with the information in that document, it is hard for me to understand why Fitzgerald did not charge him for violation of his SF312. The only thing that makes sense to me, and I fully admit I may be way off, is that LIBBY already has already done a deal with the Special Prosecutor.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

31. Jane Hamsher at firedoglake: "There are smoking guns all over the place"

There are smoking guns all over the place in the Libby indictment.

1. p. 7 - 19. "Not earlier than June 2003, but on or before July 8, 2003, the Assistant to the Vice President for Public Affairs learned from another government official that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA, and advised LIBBY of this information."

Assistant to the Vice President for Public Affairs from 2001-2004 was Catherine Martin. From Seymour Hersh's New Yorker article, 10/20/03:

In response to claims that Joe Wilson had circulated his Niger report prior to the State of the Union Address, Martin denied that Cheney had any knowledge of it. “The vice president doesn’t know Joe Wilson and did not know about his trip until he read about it in the press,” said Martin.

She learned from ANOTHER government official? Whole lot of people got some 'splainin to do.

Much more at the link:

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/10/smoking-guns.html

And, of course, Fitzgerald and his team already know how much singing LIBBY has done to keep his rap sheet to "only" five counts.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

32. Congressman Conyers is already digging into these issues ....

What Did The President and Vice President Know and When Did They Know It?

Today's indictment of Vice President Cheney's Chief Aide Scooter Libby is an important first step in holding this Administration responsible for its efforts to deceive the American people and their elected representatives to bolster the case for going to with Iraq. But it is only the beginning.

In many ways, it raises more questions than it answers.

On page 4 of the indictment, who is the unnamed "Undersecretary of State" who was asked by Libby about Wilson's trip and then responded that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA? On page 7, Libby is said to advise "the then White House Press Secretary" that "Wilson's wife worked at the CIA." What did the Press Secretary do with that information? Who is "Official A" on page 8, who discussed Wilson's wife's occupation with Robert Novak?

Most importantly, the indictment reveals -- as was previously reported -- that Vice President Cheney first told Libby that "Wilson's wife worked at the Central Intelligence Agency in the Counterproliferation Division." (p.8) What other instructions, if any, did the Vice President give Libby at that time?

More at the link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-conyers/what-did-the-president-an_b_9692.html

Like I said .... just the begining ....


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[understandinglife]

33. Josh Marshall focuses on exactly the same segment:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/006881.php

And, let me quote Mr Marshall regarding something I should have stated explicitly in the OP:

This is a crucial piece of information. the Counterproliferation Division (CPD) is part of the CIA's Directorate of Operations, i.e., not Directorate of Intelligence, the branch of the CIA where 'analysts' come from, but where the spies come from.

Crucial, in_deed.

And, the more I read this document the more I think LIBBY has truly sung, loudly -- did ya hear him a hollering John? Dick? Steven? Condi? W? ..... One can only imagine what all their lawyers are now doing ....


Peace.

[understandinglife]

41. Kos puts it on the DK homepage:

http://dailykos.com/story/2005/10/28/155633/39

Some interesting comments, already.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

34. From the perspective of Exeuctive Order 12958, it is important to

.... remember that LIBBY reported not just to Cheney but also to W - a 'two-hat' sorta guy in the WH.

They were both responsible for what LIBBY did with ANY classified information to which he had access -- that's what EO 12958 makes explicit.

Just the beginning .....


Peace.

[Stephanie]

36. What about this, paragraph 13, Libby spoke to his "then Principal Deputy"

Who dat? He said there could be complications with CIA in disclosing info publicly.

[understandinglife]

44. I cannot find an org chart, anywhere, as to answer your question.

I'll keep searching.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

47. From Tom Paine.com: Dick and Don's Cabal

http://www.tompaine.com/cabal (link to the original, "expandable" version)

Useful, but does not yet answer your question. Still looking.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

46. Larry Johnson: "A Good Start"

The indictment makes clear, with no shadow of a doubt, that Valerie Wilson was an undercover officer until exposed by Robert Novak's column. According to the indictment,

Prior to July 14, 2003, Valerie Wilson’s affiliation with the CIA was not common knowledge outside the intelligence community.

As the prosecutor said at today's press conference, this ain't over.

Some interesting tidbits that will need to be clarified:

http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/10/a_good_start.html

Peace.

[understandinglife]

48. Robert Dreyfuss: "Keep Investigating, Fitz"

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But like Starr, Fitzgerald can choose much more. He can choose to investigate the entire spider’s web of scandals that all overlap in what we ought to start calling Iraqgate.

He can investigate not only the outing of Wilson, but its root cause: the mythmaking about Iraq’s nonexistent nuclear program. And he doesn’t have to stop with the Niger uranium angle, a thread much easier to follow now that La Repubblica has uncorked a lot on the Italian end of that one. He can also investigate the parallel myths of the aluminum tubes, looking at who in the administration’s Office of Special Plans, the Iraqi National Congress, the American Enterprise Institute (see: Michael Ledeen) and other neocon-sponsored entities might have forged documents, passed on false reports and spread alarming bits of nonsense—intentionally—that helped Dick Cheney, Don Rumsfeld and Condi Rice issue exaggerated warnings to Americans about Iraqi mushroom clouds.

He can investigate the creation of the Counterterrorism Evaluation Group, ...

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He can investigate the burgeoning Larry Franklin scandal involving the American-Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC). ...

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He can investigate Mr. Bad Penny himself, Ahmed Chalabi and his ties to the neocon doomsayers. ...

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And, more:

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/20051028/keep_investigating_fitz.php

Just the beginning ...


Peace.

[understandinglife]

49. Trey Ellis: "President Cheney's Goose Is Cooked"

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So once in office Cheney looks around the world and what does he see? Does he want to beat the Democrats into insignificance like Karl Rove and Tom Delay? Not particularly. Does he have some utopian ideal of stabilizing and democratizing the globe like Paul Wolfowitz? Are you kidding? As CEO of Halliburton he lobbied Congress to ease sanctions against Lybia, Syria and even Iran. No, once handed the keys to the kingdom this guy looked around the world and saw money.

Remember his first significant act in office? He presided over a secretive, closed-door energy task force. Bush's biggest donor Ken Lay was there. And what was on the table? Talk of conservation to buy us more time before oil reserves dry up? Aggressive investment in new technologies to free us of our dependence on foreign oil? Nope. According to Judicial Watch what were on the table were maps. Maps of Saudi and UAE oil fields and also a map of a country over which we, at that time, had no control -- Iraq. That was in March of 2001. We all know what happened next. In the days after 9/11 people like former counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke and Prime Minister Tony Blair were shocked to hear Bush, Cheney and Rumsfeld talking about Iraq when none of the hijackers came from that country. Just as Cheney saw a golden opportunity for himself in being picked to pick Bush's VP, he saw 9/11 as opportunity dripping with oil. Hiding behind a national tragedy he could mobilize the strongest army in the history of the world to do his corporate bidding.

We know this to be true because of the rush to war. No one, not the CIA, the State Department, or any foreign intelligence outfit thought that Iraq's threat was imminent. They all thought there was a threat because Saddam kept saying there was one, but no one thought that it was less than years away. The United States with the help of our little buddy Great Britain, rushed into war without the backing of any other major nations because Dick Cheney didn't want to have to share the spoils of war with them. And you can't spell "spoil" without "oil."

With Libby's indictment caring Americans can now press for the whole truth to come out. Cheney and his White House Iraq Group lied us into war then viciously went after anyone like Ambassador Wilson who dared get in their way. They almost got away with it. Almost.

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Link:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/trey-ellis/president-cheneys-goose-_b_9704.html

Almost.

And, everyone -- we who lived every day wanting Nixon OUT, know what it means to observe meticulous, valiant, dedicated fellow citizens taking more than two years after the initial crime, to achieve that historic outcome.

Patience does not mean complacence; it means this is going to take time and diligent effort.

What happened today is shattering to Cheney and the neoconsters and it's just the first blow ...


Peace.

[understandinglife]

50. "Libby's bound to be indicted by Fitzgerald, if he has a case against ...

... anyone.

... if you eventually want to get to the forgeries and the lies which led us into war, the route lies through Dick Cheney and his man Scooter and not Rove and Bush. While Bush may have wanted war, he contracted the work out to Cheney, who then went to Libby, who was obssesed with the subject.

Remember, it was Cheney leaning on the CIA for positive words, it was the neocons like Wurmser and Flietz who challenged the CIA. People who worked for John Bolton. Is Karl Rove tied to these people? No. But Scooter Libby is and so is Dick Cheney.

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From Why a Libby Indictment Is Crucial by Steve Gilliard on October 28, 2005

Link:

http://stevegilliard.blogspot.com/2005/10/why-libby-indictment-is-crucial.html

Yes. The direct links to Cheney and all the neoconsters flow through LIBBY.


Peace.

[understandinglife]

51. Libby, the perfect starched shirt, and Radler

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Now we enter the realm of -- admittedly -- pure speculation. But Fitzgerald has Libby on 30 years worth of counts, and he's got him cold. No wiggle room. Libby may not do 30 years, but he ain't doing 6 months. He is F-U-C-K-E-D fucked. It was the Veep's boon companion himself, David Gergen, who said on MSNBC today that this is squeeze time. It really matters little to a man of 55 whether he is looking at 30 years or 60 -- he'd rather have 60 thrown at him if some of them were shaky and he thought he could use the wobbly ones to get out of the rest.

There is no wobble in the indictments handed down today. It's pretty clear. Libby can deal or swing.

Which brings us to David Radler. Who is David Radler? David Radler was the #2 man at Hollinger International. The day after he was indicted by the US Attorney for the State of Illinois Patrick J. Fitzgerald for looting money from the stockholders of Hollinger, he announced he'd rather "cooperate with investigators" (read: rat out his boss, Conrad Black) than spend the rest of his life perfecting the ultimate starch job in the prison laundry. Radler decided he would take Door #2 and do twenty-nine unpleasant months and pay a fine when the prospect of life in prison became a reality.

That's just the way Patrick Fitzgerald works. If the Hollinger case, and the Ryan case, and the Daley Case, and the Al Quaeda case and the Gambino case are any indication, Fitzgerald will now use what he's got to get more.

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From by Jane Hamsher on October 28, 2005

Link:

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005/10/patrick-fitzgerald-david-radler-and.html

I started this thread within ~ 5 min of having access to the text of the indictment because of what is stated on p.5, # 9. To me that is the focal point, the nexus of the indictment. Having read it several more times, I have no doubt that Cheney is sweating blood and every WHIGer and neoconster that participated in the "get Wilson" seances in the two month interval of cited events in the indictment, should be sweating as well.

This is not over and unless he dies of natural causes before trial, Mr Cheney is going to be in a court room as a defendant because pansy ass Libby is not about to protect the maestro of the outing of a CIA NOC.

The only question remaining for me is will Cheney roll on W regarding the "go ahead" (said in the crudest of terms, I'm sure) from AF1 to "get Wilson."


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