We Were Right! Bolton! Bolton! Bolton!

[NashVegas]

Per Josh Marshall, on the indictment:

Top of the list: who do you figure the "Under Secretary of State" (p.4) was who seems to have worked closely with Libby in getting information on Wilson?

Hint: Look at the org chart at the State Department and whose purview the State Dept intel shop, INR, falls under.

He is SO fucked! This is the information the White House refused to give up during Bolton's confirmation hearings. A few of us DUers speculated that Bolton was somehow tied into this at the time.

[Coexist]

1. I know - I am giddy - I'll be Rove gave him up to save his ass from

an indictment and being forced to resign when Bush is so crippled.

[VolcanoJen]

11. Yes! I think you're right... and this shit is NOT over.

Don't ever forget this: Why did John Bolton visit Judy Miller in jail?

Obstruction of justice much????

[Coexist]

22. You know it.

[NashVegas]

30. Second Question: Who Sent That State Dept. Memo Ari et al Were Reading ..

on Air Force 1 in July 2003?

[BurtWorm]

31. I think it was from Hadley.

I'll go double check.

[BurtWorm]

33. Wrong. It was Richard Armitage who asked to send it to Powell.

Which is how it got onto the plane to Africa.


http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/16/politics/16memo.html?pagewanted=2&ei=5090&en=99bfd110bd325456&ex=1279166400&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss

The memorandum was dated June 10, 2003, nearly four weeks before Mr. Wilson wrote an Op-Ed article for The New York Times in which he recounted his mission and accused the administration of twisting intelligence to exaggerate the threat from Iraq. The memorandum was written for Marc Grossman, then the under secretary of state for political affairs, and it referred explicitly to Valerie Wilson as Mr. Wilson's wife, according to a government official who reread the document on Friday.

When Mr. Wilson's Op-Ed article appeared on July 6, 2003, a Sunday, Richard L. Armitage, then deputy secretary of state, called Carl W. Ford Jr., the assistant secretary for intelligence and research, at home, a former State Department official said. Mr. Armitage asked Mr. Ford to send a copy of the memorandum to Mr. Powell, who was preparing to leave for Africa with Mr. Bush, the former official said. Mr. Ford sent it to the White House for transmission to Mr. Powell.

It is not clear who asked for the memorandum, but in the weeks before it was written, there were several accounts in newspapers about an unnamed former diplomat's trip to Africa seeking intelligence about Iraq's nuclear program. On May 6, 2003, Nicholas D. Kristof, a columnist for The Times, wrote of a "former U.S. ambassador to Africa" who had reported to the C.I.A. and the State Department that reports of Iraq seeking to acquire uranium in Niger were "unequivocally wrong."

[ChairmanAgnostic]

38. why else would he personally visit Miller in prison?

trying to get the stories straight.

Hey, anyone hear anything from Miller about the indictment?
Or has the NYT done the right thing about the write thing? (fired her, I mean)

[Mike03]

2. YAHOOOO

I'm happier about this than about Libby!!! Bolton = Mr. X???

[antonialee839]

20. Me too, especially since Monkey went ahead like gangbusters

and installed Bolton during a recess.

[FreedomAngel82]

23. Could be

Or Bolton could be a trail to Mr. X. :shrug: I also think that Bolton was put in the UN to give misinformation and destroy them from the inside.

[Pithy Cherub]

3. A new grand jury and the Bush/Cheney cabal's dirty laundry

exposed for the entire freaking planet to see! Bolton has to be sitting on pins and needles! Just lovin' it!

[ToolTex]

4. Ki Yi Yippy Yippy Yea!

n/t

[Roland99]

5. What was Hadley's position?

[NashVegas]

8. Hadley Was In Condi's Departmment

NSA.

[Roland99]

21. I thought I read something the other day saying he was in State.

That had me confused as I know he reported to Dr. Lies. Heck, he's the one pretty much solely responsible for those "16 words" being in the SotU.

[Jara sang]

6. And Bolton got it from his former Deputy at USAID

Laura Dietrich, she knows Plame.

[insane_cratic_gal]

7. I agree

He had means and motive they refused to release that information knowing full well they'd have to appoint him because he'd never be confirmed.

In the mean time what sort of damage has he done at the UN?

[druidity33]

44. Bolton's damage

He has already tried a Rethug maneuver by holding a vote late at night and "not inviting everyone to the table", thankfully he didn't get away with it... but i would expect many DIRTY tricks from him.

[VolcanoJen]

9. Dana Bash started to say his name and stopped herself!!

Just moments ago on CNN. She said, "Some speculate the under-secretary may have been... actually, we'll leave it at that."

I spit out my beer! (Yep, cracked one open. It's Fitzmastime!)

[QuettaKid]

10. don't forget Bolton was one of the

first people to visit judy in jail...

[VolcanoJen]

12. Exactly. Bolton visited Judy. OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE?

Witness Tampering?

This shit is NOT over.

[FreedomAngel82]

25. Oh yes!

That's right!

[Tatiana]

15. Daaaaaaaaaaaaayum!!!!!!!

Well, looks like we've got a full blown scandal on our hands.

The question is, will the corporate media report on it?

[EVDebs]

39. Hey pass me a cold one ! Let's hope Fitz looks into

why all this took place to begin with...The Spider's Web
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/17/1615235

[HereSince1628]

13. The State dept. revealing information about the CIA is suspicious

looking without getting into the details.

If Cheney or Libbey had a legitimate right to know, wouldn't they go to the CIA and get it firsthand? Did they not want to alert the CIA to upcoming shenanigans?

What was said to the Undersecretary that prompted him to reveal that?
Why was the question even asked?

Enable a smear campaign seems at least a possibility.

[stop the bleeding]

14. Bye bye - Fucker - make that 2 down n/t

[Sydnie]

16. Thank You! I have been saying that for MONTHS now

They were holding those papers a little too tightly and they wanted him appointed a little too lustfully ... yes, lustfully!

You are getting nailed too Bolton. Believe it!

[trof]

17. Sweet Jesus. Way to go, Crisco.

:thumbsup:

[Hissyspit]

18. NOMINATE this, so it doesn't get lost in all the noise! nt

[VolcanoJen]

24. This is HUGH!111, SERIES111!!!!, and I nominated.

I think Mr. UN Ambassador might just be the smoking fuckin' gun in all of this.

It begs the question... by appointing him in recess, did Bush purposefully avoid Congressional discovery of Bolton's involvement in the Plame affair?

Remember, they wouldn't hand those damned papers over to Congress. And then they appointed him anyway.

This really is huge. And serious.

[NashVegas]

29. They Were Bonkers to Put Him Forward!

It really does speak volumes about the amazing arrogance - and overreach - of the * administration, that they pushed him into the ambassador nomination knowing he was going to have to be confirmed.

[wryter2000]

19. Question...

This is all going by so fast. Page 4 of what? The indictment?

[sofa king]

27. Yep. The full Adobe pdf here.

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/documents/libby_indictment_28102005.pdf

[catmandu57]

26. Good I want to see them drag his maggoty ass

from the UN.

[mimitabby]

28. is there a link?

a source of some kind that i can read? thanks

[NashVegas]

32. Talking Points Memo

http://talkingpointsmemo.com

Once DU traffic goes down, search functions will return.

[Jara sang]

34. Post regarding Bolton and his associates.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5207615

[LibertyorDeath]

35. If I were Libby I'd be requesting Protective Custody right about now.

It's a good day ! :toast:

There's more coming Libby's the lynch pin

[Nothing Without Hope]

36. Yes!!! Here's a thread from Friday on exactly this: Bolton's involvement

in the WMD lies and most likely in the outing of Plame. Good articles relating to this in the replies as well as the OP of this thread:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x5199939
thread title: State told Libby of agent's identity_ Richard Sale on Bolton, Fleitz,Wurms

And when Bolton visited Judith Miller in jail, that just nailed it. He didn't have to SAY anything incriminating, his mere presence there would have had a chilling effect of reminding her of the consequences if those rotten aspen roots didn't stay connected.

Merry Fitzmas indeed!!!!! :woohoo:

[Nothing Without Hope]

37. PERMALINK for the Josh Marshall (Talking Points Memo) post in the OP:

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/006878.php

It's just a short entry, but so important! Don't miss the many other entries at the site, many of them put up after the one discussed in the current thread.

[shanti]

40. co-signators of PNAC, the lot of them!

it will be interesting to see how many of them go down.

[MsKandice01]

42. Yep...every last one of them...

PNAC needs to be taken DOWN!!

[MsKandice01]

41. If Bolton goes down, I will be satisfied...Rove or no Rove

That fucker deserves what's coming to him...abusive asshole.

[SeanQ]

43. Here's hoping Fitz can get the info he needs to bring him to justice!