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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:25 PM
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Offical Patrick Fitzgerald Press Conference - Thread #2 (locked)
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 01:36 PM by Skinner
Continue discussion here.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:26 PM
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1. "Pillow talk" with Judy?
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 01:26 PM by crispini
That's my guess! :rofl:
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:26 PM
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6. Her cooties must be RANK!
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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31. whats also gross is that she was at least 2nd in line - russert was 1st
contacted
according to the press release russert was contacted by libby 2 days prior to miller and cooper

if thats not the ultimate evidence of russerts allegiance then i dont know what is
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:26 PM
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2. Yo
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:26 PM
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3. hey Skinnaahh!
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:26 PM
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4. What was said about Ari?
I'm a cuberat :(
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:27 PM
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12. scooter talked with him about valerie
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bill Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:27 PM
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19. Libby talked to Ari about Plame-Wilson
before Libby supposedly heard about Wilson
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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24. Here's thread one, to catch up
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:31 PM
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68. Libby told him on a Monday. Fleisher said he heard it on Thursday.
no text.
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:26 PM
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5. This is absolutely devastating to the Repugnicans
...and its about damn time
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:27 PM
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13. Amen! FINALLY the mask comes off the traitors. n/t
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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27. "ALL citizens are bound by the law"
My country is back!!!
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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45. Pete Wilson is about to get decapitated.
Wilson is so pissed about this.

Wilson used to work for Cheney.
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:30 PM
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57. Your (my) country never left
It's just been sleeping for a while.

This is a perfect example of something that America's Greatest President said - "There is nothing that is wrong with America that cannot be fixed by what is right with America"
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:32 PM
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You are so right!
I am so proud to be a liberal!
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:33 PM
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79. I'm proud to be an American. n/t
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:26 PM
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7. If you think about it, Fritz has to be pretty brave to be doing this...
you can tell, he is VERY nervous.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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25. I was thinking the same thing.
I don't know his normal vocal quality but it sounds nervous to me. This does take a certain degree of bravery, doesn't it?
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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28. I agree
I don't have access to a TV (damn!) but from everything I've read, Fitz is probably the best prosecutor in the U.S. right now.
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:26 PM
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8. He knows this stuff inside and out.
I love him.
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:27 PM
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16. Man it turns out Scooter...
completely lied his ass off!!!
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:26 PM
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9. Libby is screwed.
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berner59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:26 PM
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10. Wow....he knows his stuff!!!
Not looking at a single note!!!! You don't want to mess with this guy!!!!

YIPEEEEE!!
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:27 PM
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15. No wonder Ari took off like a bat out of hell.
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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23. Got that right!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:36 PM
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100. I *knew* he knew something! Wonder if JimmyJeff will be implicated?
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 01:36 PM by Roland99
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:27 PM
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11. To the person who said it sounds like an opening statement...
Having served on several juries it sure as heck sounds like one to me!

Whatever happens though...please do not let Kevin Costner play Fitzgerald in the movie.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:27 PM
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17. hahahhhaa
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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33. He sorta resembles Costner, though. n/t
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:33 PM
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He looks more like John O'Reilly.
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blitzen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:27 PM
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14. Slam dunk against Libby!!!! n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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29. shows the world that the US takes its laws seriously!! good for him.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:27 PM
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18. Mr. Libby's story was FALSE.
He was at the beginning of the chain and he lied about it.

Hey, did he tell NOVAK? do we know?
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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20. Changing attribution (to Hill staffer) proves it was deliberate
so says the fitz. :loveya:
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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21. "He lied about it, under oath, and
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM by WinkyDink
repeatedly."
HAHAHAHA!!
Freep THIS!!

Fitz has someone there from the ESPIONAGE Division!

Investigation is not over, but "the substantial bulk...is."
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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22. Love the pic of Scooter they're using on CNN. He looks stunned.
hehe
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:33 PM
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84. heheeee is right!!
and 30 years is even better!!! :D :D :D

:kick:

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Long Time Lurker Donating Member (33 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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26. Alright, so Libby lied
Get to the bottom of this! Lying about war!

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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39. now doing the thanks. but about future investigations?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:30 PM
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50. "its not over" will keep a grand jury open for future considerations!! YEA
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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Officials must be bound by law
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mountebank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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30. So the question is: why isn't Libby being charged now with disclosing
classified information?
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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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36. yeah? I am wondering the same thing.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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40. Not sure! Thank God for the first question.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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46. Grand Jury not extended?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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41. FIRST QUESTION!
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:30 PM
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54. Gathering evidence against the others.
Then they can get them all for conspiracy.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:31 PM
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65. I sure hope so.
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Crazy Guggenheim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:28 PM
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32. "This is a country that takes its laws seriously"
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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37. What about the rest of the rats?
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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48. Oh Fitz is answering my question now.
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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34. American Values
Let's respect the process!
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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44. any questions?
it's not over, but substantial work is completed
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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35. Ye gods
This is incredible. I haven't seen anything like this since Alexander Butterfield told the committee about the oval office tapes.

Fitz is everything we thought and more!
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:30 PM
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52. I agree.
And i think I'm in love.

Is he married? (Well, I am, but damn.)
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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38. There is no way that this is the end of the indictments!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:32 PM
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74. Using BASEBALL ANALOGY to explain why this info
about Plame was going out....listing questions....even though no charges about leak, why the investigation still going on...

Obstruction charges don't allow for the fine judgments...Need to know the truth, national security involved.
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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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42. NOT OVER!!
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Gloria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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43. Important to focus on what reporters were told...
Told reporters he did not even know that he had a wife....but he had discussed it with 4 reporters

Miller, Cooper....

June 23, 03 Miller
Background conversation, changed attribution to former Hill staffer, also discussed Val at CIA
and also on July 12

Never said this is something other reporters are saying, etc.

He was at START of chain, not the end.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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47. He asks us to watch the trial!
What does he think will come out? :-)
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:29 PM
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49. "It's NOT OVER."
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 01:30 PM by crispini
BUT The substantial bulk has concluded. We will keep a GJ over to consider other matters.

It sounded to me like he was really discounted what is to come, though.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:30 PM
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53. Drat.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:30 PM
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58. SWEET
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:31 PM
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61. Oh he's extending the GJ??
is he?
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:31 PM
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63. no, no, he wants us to watch the trial closely.... with values in mind.
that's something big to me.
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geekgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:31 PM
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66. he wants to know why this info got out in the first place
I'll tell him why- to smear Wilson!
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:32 PM
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75. No No no!! He want s to know WHY Libby obstructed justice!!!
That could open up a whole new can of worms for the bushistas.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:34 PM
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88. Just because the bulk of the investigation is over
doesn't mean the indictments are. I think Fitz has much more than he's revealed.
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bill Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:30 PM
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51. It's Not Over!!!!!!
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:30 PM
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55. baseballs in the head
shades of grey
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:30 PM
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56. Baseball analogies!!!!
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:30 PM
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59. *sigh* I think I'm in love.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:31 PM
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Damage was done to all of us--WHY was this information going out?
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:30 PM
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60. 30 years in prison
I saw that float by there oh yes I did! :D :D :D

:kick:

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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:31 PM
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62. "The damage was done to ALL of us!"
Thank you, Sir.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:32 PM
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71. I yelled "YES" at that point.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:31 PM
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64. "why, why" wants to dig deeper -- what was intention nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:32 PM
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72. He is wonderful!! it is not just Val. that got dumped on but all of us.
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Sydnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:31 PM
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67. Baseball Referrence - Olbermann is going to LOVE this! n/t
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:31 PM
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69. Obstruction prevents the Leak Charge
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grytpype Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:32 PM
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77. Is this what Fitzgerald is saying?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:31 PM
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70. This guy is the REAL DEAL.
Wow.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:32 PM
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78. says Libby presumed innocent for now.
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:34 PM
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You said it. Hard-nosed, all business. Integrity.
It's been so long we've forgotten what it looks like.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:32 PM
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73. What we have is with obstruction of justice
is the umpire gets sand thrown in his eyes.

Prevents us from making the calls we want to make.

Not less serious than a leak charge.

Inadvertence? Recklessness? Maliciousness?
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Devil Dog Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:32 PM
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76.  It's over, despite that comment
Damn! No charge against Rove.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:33 PM
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81. Yeah, I kind of think it is.
But there will be a trial.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:33 PM
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82. He will not comment on Cheney--standard practice not to comment on
other people involved.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:33 PM
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80. What about the VEEP?
Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 01:33 PM by crispini
Did he encourage Libby?

"not making any charges about anyone who is not changed in the indictment."
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:34 PM
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87. He will not tell us who Official A is (at this time).
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:33 PM
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83. He won't comment on anyone but Libby.
Good call!
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:33 PM
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85. If someone throws sand in the umps eyes, that indicates...
the pitcher meant to do it and planned it.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:34 PM
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86. Official A talked to Novak - why wasn't he charged?
LOL! He pegged us here sitting at home! :rofl: Jump through the TV!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:35 PM
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91. This should put the WH to shame (but it will not).
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:34 PM
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89. God bless Patrick Fitzgerald. His press conf is music to my ears.
My heart swells hearing him tell it like it is.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:35 PM
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90. HE JUST ADMITTED HE KNOWS MORE THAN HE'S TELLING
pardon my caps lock. I had to squeal.
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antonialee839 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:35 PM
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97. I'd like to wake up in his bed in Chicago right now.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:36 PM
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101. of course he does, but I like his style. Keeps the WH guessing!! te he
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:35 PM
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92. what can you say about what you're still working on? I CAN'T!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaugh!
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:35 PM
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93. They're talking about constitutional crisis on CSPAN-1, by the way
This is not going away.

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mountebank Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:35 PM
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94. So he's saying Libby *effectively* obstructed justice?
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buzzard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:35 PM
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95. He can't speak on what they are working on that is the law
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:35 PM
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96. Wont give anymore info on anyone.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:36 PM
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98. I will not end the investigation until we can look anyone in the eye
and tell them we've done our best.
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Mike03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:36 PM
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99. Can't talk about those not indicted, but "no one wants this finished
more than I do.."
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:36 PM
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102. what was that grin when he said not to read anything into it?
that means they will still get ROVE!!!
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:36 PM
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103. "I'd like to wake up in my bed in Chicago."
Heh.

So would I, Fitz.
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:36 PM
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105. LOL n/t
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Skinner ADMIN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:36 PM
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104. Continue discussion in thread #3
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-05 01:36 PM
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106. "Can you tell us what damage was done?"
"No"
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