garybeck
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:47 PM
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This is making me ill. I don't like the tone of Fitzgerald's discussion. He practically said there will be no more indictments. he said the grand jury is over. He wants this to be completely done soon.
Won't even say if Plame was under cover or not. Even referred to Plame having possibly sent Wilson.
This smells like a whitewash. Someone had to take a hit and it was libby. I think this might be all we get, and the trial might be a vindication.
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:50 PM
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1. You're living in a parallel universe. |
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GJ's don't stay in session when there is nothing further to invetigate, and yes, indict.
Moreover, you seem to have missed the part about the investigation continuing into another full Grand Jury.
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:50 PM
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>. He practically said there will be no more indictments.
Where did he say that? The BBC website collapsed into a singularity halfway through the news conference, so I only heard the first few questions.
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:51 PM
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3. He said FLAT-OUT that she was undercover |
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right at the beginning of the press conference.
What show are you watching? :crazy:
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:52 PM
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5. It doesn't matter. They can't prove that anyone intentionally sought |
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to out her.
Now he said that.
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:56 PM
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The only thing that "intent" matters is to conspiracy charges.
If Official X accidentally got drunk and told his hooker, he'd still go to jail for it.
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:05 PM
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He said it very clear that she was covert and the investigation was going on with a new grand jury. Whatever the hell you were watching isn't what I was watching.
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:51 PM
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4. What are you talking about??? |
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In the press conference the first words out of his mouth was that she was covert, and why. He explained it in great detail, and he explained why it was bad for national security. --Those were the first words out of his mouth!
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:53 PM
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6. You must be watching Fox. |
garybeck
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:01 PM
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18. I'm watching the press conference on CNN |
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what are you watching?
he said, "no one wants this to be over sooner than me. I want to wake up in my bed in Chicago soon."
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:54 PM
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7. baba uptin wanna hily poopoo? |
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:54 PM
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He said that he can't say anything about those who aren't currently indicted. There's no way to know.
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:55 PM
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9. Investigation to continue with new grand jury - Fitzgerald spokesman |
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http://www.wtkr.com/global/story.asp?s=4042769&ClientType=PrintableHe did say Plame was covert, it's also mentioned in the indictment.
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:55 PM
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10. You must be watching the wrong press conference. |
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:56 PM
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11. No he did say that the investigation continues |
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but he cannot comment, no comment, does not equal no more indictments
This is the begining
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:56 PM
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13. Fitzmas - most childish term ever used on DU |
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We have descended into infancy here thinking we are getting presents from a Special Council. What a bunch of babies.
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:01 PM
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17. The baby's are the ones going Waaah! Waaah! right now |
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To you I say "MERRY FITZMAS!!!!!!"
:party:
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:02 PM
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20. I hate that term - makes the user look like a baby |
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Googoo - did you lose your pacifier yet?
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:06 PM
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I wasn't referring to you as a waah-waah-er, rather the people who are disappointed with the news today.
But if you want to be grumpy ata me, go right ahead. I won't take it personally, because it is your problem, not mine. I feel GREAT!
:party:
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:04 PM
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24. Merry Fitzmas to you, too |
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:04 PM
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26. pass the egg nog please |
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:03 PM
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22. and a neck pinch right back atcha. |
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:03 PM
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23. Fitzmas! Fitzmas! Fitzmas! |
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:05 PM
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Hehe - where's Aretha Franklin when you need her?
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:09 PM
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40. Hehe. ;) Okay, then: Happy Fitzanukkah! n/t |
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Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 02:12 PM by Ladyhawk
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:04 PM
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25. I don't think that is why DUers use it. |
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I get the impression that there was great hope in this investigation that perhaps there would be some relief from the BFEE. And, if there was, that people would be gleeful, like Christmas when you are a child.
I don't think people use it as though we expect a gift from the Special Prosecutor. At least, that is not my interpretation.
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Pacifist Patriot
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:06 PM
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32. Certainly wasn't mine. |
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:06 PM
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34. I couldn't hate the term any more - makes all of us at DU look childish |
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Does this term seem like an appropriate response to treason and the destruction of American law and honor?
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:09 PM
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39. Of course not, and neither do DUers. |
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My point is that this has been a very dark five years, and I think people are expressing a little bit of glee that perhaps there will be some respite from the continued corruption of the BFEE.
And, the fact that Fitz rhymes with Chris doesn't hurt.
I think if you check other boards, most liberals and progressives are using the term, with delight, and for the right reason...that perhaps there is someone brave enough to confront these bastards.
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:11 PM
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44. Yeah, I'm sure all of our Jewish and Muslim and Buddhist and Hindu |
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friend really enjoy this Christmas present term. It's so stupid - I can't begin to tell you how stupid it will sound when people look back and see how childish they were in such a serious situation.
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:05 PM
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31. I think you're the one who needs to grow up |
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And buy yourself a sense of humor. For christ's sake, it's just good fun.
You're probably the jerk that thumbs his nose at kids dressing up on Halloween too.
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:08 PM
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38. Treason and the fall of our governemt is funny. |
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Maybe in the lounge where people are trying to escape reality. IT is the stupidest thing I've ever experienced at DU and makes me wonder why 66% of people here would keep shoving this into the 33% of serious people here who are insulted by it and it makes us extremely angry.
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:11 PM
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43. If you get 'extremely angry' about it, you really need to think |
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about the possibility that the problem lies within you
:shrug:
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:59 PM
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Patrick Fitzgerald is proceeding exactly as he should. This is all not over yet. This guy is a real pro.
Anything legal can take a lot of time. Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, et al are not in the clear.
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Fri Oct-28-05 01:59 PM
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15. there never was . . .WTF . . ARE YOU REAL? |
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:01 PM
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19. You mean Santa Claus ISN'T REAL??!?!? |
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:00 PM
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16. Why are you spreading inaccurate info???? |
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Fitz said she was undercover, and went into great detail about it.
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:02 PM
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21. I just heard him say "I'm not going to comment on whether she was |
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undercover. I will tell you this - she worked at the CIA..."
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:06 PM
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33. I call bullshit........ |
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The first words out of his mouth were that she was covert and why. Then he went on to explain why it was bad for national security. It was the first words out of his mouth when he started the conference. I'm sorry you missed the first end of it, but you're spreading bad info.
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:11 PM
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He said that she worked at the CIA and that "that information was classified"
Whether or not that implies that she was covert is up to us to mull, but he didn't say it himself.
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:07 PM
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37. If you did not see the start of the conference, quit while you're behind. |
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:05 PM
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27. Are we watching the same Press Conference???? |
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His tone is appropriately circumspect.
He flat out said Plame was under cover and the damage was to us all. Did you come into it late?
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:06 PM
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35. Sorry you didn't like your present |
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I love mine. This is serious stuff.
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:10 PM
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41. everyone builds something so, that what is good is shot down |
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expectation has become so high, we think it is going to do 5 years of mess in a flash. that is not how the real world works. to just this moment, so much has been accomplished in destroying bush and what he will be able to do. how much bush is supported has nose dived. more dems are able to speak out. more press is speaking out. more americans are disgusted
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Fri Oct-28-05 02:11 PM
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42. It sounds like a careful man who takes pains to respect the law. |
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At least to me it does.
This isn't a witch hunt ala Ken Starr, I wouldn't advise being disappointed in that fact.
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