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Fri Oct-28-05 04:38 PM
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Poll question: Is everyone on the same page? Is Rove "off the hook?" |
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:41 PM
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1. Hell no! He's "Official A"! |
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I wonder who they thought they were fooling by calling him Official A? It's common knowledge that his job title is Official Asshole...
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:43 PM
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2. He is an Official Asshole, but he's not Official A. |
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That's the mysterious Third Man, the *other* guy Novak talked to.
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:44 PM
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4. Up until now, oft referred to as, "Mr. X?" That one? n/t |
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:51 PM
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9. I've only heard him referred to as "one other administration official" |
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:50 PM
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7. It's awful ain't it? Shrub has more assholes around him |
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than you can count. Fitz may end up working his way through the Greek alphabet, too.
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:43 PM
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3. Fock no! Neither is Cheney and his trained chimp!!!!!!! n/t |
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:52 PM
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Are you a Robin Williams fan? Especially the Scots creating golf routine?
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:57 PM
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<sigh> Boring AND predictable. With one more, do I win some kind of self-hating trifecta? :D j/k, I adore me. You're psychic, right?
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:21 PM
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25. Cheer up - it's just one of my favorite routines. We use the phrase |
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around here a lot.
It also reminds me of Billy Connolly - who, by the way, is on Bill Maher tonight!
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:59 PM
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17. Wouldn't that be . . . |
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:46 PM
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I'm bummed that Cheney's off the hook |
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It's so obvious Cheney was involved. Fitz rolled over on this one. But Rove is probably not off the hook. Given Fitz's lame prosecution so far, I think Rove will get off the hook real soon. Fitz wants to end this investigation quickly and go home.
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:48 PM
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6. I'm not even sure that Cheney is off the hook. |
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I don't think he'll be indicted, but I think he has been wounded. And I think if there's any investigation into pre-war "intelligence" (so to speak), he could have his fat ass handed to him.
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:46 PM
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5. Third choice: Don't know |
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Maybe, maybe not. Before the press conference I thought he was singing and would rat out someone like Cheney, now I'm not so sure it's going beyond Libby.
:shrug:
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:51 PM
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8. I have TOTAL faith in Fitz. |
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He will pursue this to the nth degree!!
GO FITZ! :kick::toast::woohoo::toast::kick: Kick traitor arse!
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:51 PM
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10. Yes, he is off the hook. Fitz said that the remainder of his work |
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was "routine." I don't think he would go to such measures today (lengthy press conference) just to do the same thing on Monday or Tuesday, or whenever.
Also, it is all about lying. Rove probably convinced them that he wasn't really lying - he had just mispoke. You see, Libby never did that - he lied blatantly, on multiple occasions and there are 4 sources to dispute him. Much more provable. Also, maybe there is something to being the first one to do it?
Rove getting off makes me absolutely sick to my stomach. Especially, since I thought Rove and Libby were givens and I wanted something much bigger like Cheney. But Fitz said today, one person with clearance telling another is not a crime.
I hope the hell I am wrong.
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:53 PM
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12. I am also pissed at myself for believe all the Raw Story stories..n/t |
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:57 PM
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14. I'm in the dark about this |
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What did Rove say that took him off the indictment list today? Did he convince Fitz that he "mispoke" or did he sing about something or what? If he lied under oath, he is either making a deal or bullshitted his way out of this. But I don't know if he did, to their satisfaction.
And this "still under investigation" statement, where did that come from? I didn't hear Fitz say anything like this today.
Gah.
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:05 PM
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21. Ok, I found the WaPo quote |
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From this morning:
An attorney for Rove, Robert Luskin, said in a statement this morning, "The Special Counsel has advised Mr. Rove that he has made no decision about whether or not to bring charges and that Mr. Rove's status has not changed. Mr. Rove will continue to cooperate fully with the Special Counsel's efforts to complete the investigation. We are confident that when the Special Counsel finishes his work, he will conclude that Mr. Rove has done nothing wrong."
Rove provided new information to Fitzgerald during eleventh-hour negotiations that "gave Fitzgerald pause" about charging Bush's senior strategist, said a source close to Rove. "The prosecutor has to resolve those issues before he decides what to do."
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:06 PM
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I knew there would only be one sacrificial lamb once word got out that the charges would be limited to perjury, obstruction and false statements.
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:56 PM
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Based on the following exchange between Fitz and a reporter, I believe that Rove has skated. It appears that most of the work is complete and a grand jury is being empaneled to tie up lose ends or to act on information that comes up in the Libby trial. Once again, I feel like Wiley Coyote chasing the Road Runner.
Mr. Fitzgerald, this began as a leak investigation but no one is charged with any leaking. Is your investigation finished? Is this another leak investigation that doesn't lead to a charge of leaking?
FITZGERALD: Let me answer the two questions you asked in one.
OK, is the investigation finished? It's not over, but I'll tell you this: Very rarely do you bring a charge in a case that's going to be tried and would you ever end a grand jury investigation.
I can tell you, the substantial bulk of the work in this investigation is concluded.
This grand jury's term has expired by statute; it could not be extended. But it's in ordinary course to keep a grand jury open to consider other matters, and that's what we will be doing
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:58 PM
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16. Yeah, I started a thread based on those statements |
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It was these statements that gave me a lot of pause about whether this is going past Libby at all.
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:01 PM
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19. That pretty much sums it all up |
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People are deluding themselves if they think something dramatic is going to happen at this point.
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:06 PM
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23. But then there's this one: |
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Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 05:29 PM by meganmonkey
QUESTION: What can you say about what you're still working on then?
FITZGERALD: I can't. I don't mean that fliply, but the grand jury doesn't give an announcement about what they're doing, what they're looking at, unless they charge an indictment.FITZGERALD: I can tell you that no one wants this thing to be over as quickly as I do, as quickly as Mr. Eckenrode does. I'd like to wake up in my bed in Chicago, he'd like to wake up in his bed in Philadelphia, and we recognize that we want to get this thing done.
I will not end the investigation until I can look anyone in the eye and tell them that we have carried out our responsibility sufficiently to be sure that we've done what we could to make intelligent decisions about when to end the investigation. We hope to do that as soon as possible. I just hope that people will take a deep breath and just allow us to continue to do what we have to do.
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I'm still undecided. I lean toward optimism. That last sentence says something, and we know this guy doesn't give up info. He is not saying one way or another, he is leaving all doors open. That's how I read it anyway. I guess we won't know for a while (yikes!!).
I just hope that people will take a deep breath and just allow us to continue to do what we have to do.
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Fri Oct-28-05 04:59 PM
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18. It's over. Rove is off the hook. |
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If Fitzgerald couldn't, in two years' worth of investigation, get enough information to nail Rove, why does anyone believe he'll find anything now.
The weasel has once again slithered away.
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:03 PM
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20. Maybe Fitz DIDN'T want to take down the Admin. |
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I mean, it might seem over the top, for the offense. I don't know; I'm babbling. I'll admit to severe disappointment.
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:09 PM
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24. Rove is not off the hook, neither is Osama Bin Laden |
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at least we know where Rove is?
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:24 PM
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I was afraid last night that he was working for them in making Libby the fall guy, but Fitzgerald seems to be sincere that further investigation is needed.
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:31 PM
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28. There is much to do.. |
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This is just the very start. Fitz was being very very careful not to tip his hand.
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