KerryOn
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:33 PM
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("Official A") - This ain't over folks! |
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Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 06:14 PM by KerryOn
On Edit>Page 8< of the indictment text:
>>21. On or about July 10 or July 11, 2003, LIBBY spoke to a senior official in the White House (“Official A”) who advised LIBBY of a conversation Official A had earlier that week with columnist Robert Novak in which Wilson’s wife was discussed as a CIA employee involved in Wilson’s trip. LIBBY was advised by Official A that Novak would be writing a story about Wilson’s wife.
22. Onb or about July 13, 2003 LIBBY flew with the Vice President and others to and from Norfolk, Virginia, on Air Force Two. On his return trip, LIBBY discussed with other officials aboard what LIBBY should say in response to certain pending media inquiries, including questions from Time reporter Matthew Cooper.<<
Official A must be Novac's source unless I missed something in the media reports.
The grand jury knows who "Official A" is, and Libby knows who that is as well. And my bet is that it is Vice President Cheney.
Cheers!
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:35 PM
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:35 PM
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2. You're not paying attention. |
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Official A is Rove.
Cheney doesn't talk to journalists.
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:36 PM
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5. Just speculation and hoping. n/t |
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:35 PM
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3. The president and vp should be forced to testify under oath. |
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:39 PM
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I don't know why they weren't asked to
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:49 PM
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10. Them testify under oath? Are you joking? |
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That's reserved only for sitting Democratic presidents involved in consensual relations!!!
And if they do, don't you think they will be allowed to go together so they can hold hands and use their 'body language' (a la 911 commission) so they can get their story straight?
All off the record, of course.
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:56 PM
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13. Will Cheney be allowed to have his arm up shiznit's ass |
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like he was a sock puppet?
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Fri Oct-28-05 06:22 PM
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15. The Vice President will... |
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...testify under oath if this goes to trial. There is no doubt in my mind.
And if it doesn't go to trial, then I think Libby will reveal bigger players, and Cheney may have to testify anyway. I don't think Libb is the one the outed Plame. The guilty one is Official A, which is Novac's source.
Again, this is just the beggining.
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:35 PM
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:39 PM
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7. But where is evidence Official A committed a crime? |
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As far as we know Official A unlike Libby came clean and told investigators and grand jury the truth.
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:44 PM
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8. Then why are they not letting us know the identity.. |
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of Offical A.
I think Official A outed Valarie. Official A spoke to Novac, not Libby. Official A is Novac's source, not Libby.
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:47 PM
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9. As Fitzgerald said; if they are not bringing charges against someone |
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they will not release their testimony or names.
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Fri Oct-28-05 06:12 PM
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14. Not bring charges now... |
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Charges may be filed on Official A in the future and that could also be why they will not release the name of Official A.
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:55 PM
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12. would not be called "Official A" if was not in legal jeopardy |
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Edited on Fri Oct-28-05 05:56 PM by emulatorloo
others (who are not in legal jeopardy) are identified by title. ON EDIT I think it is Rove
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Fri Oct-28-05 07:01 PM
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20. Good someone besides me gets it. n/t |
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Fri Oct-28-05 05:50 PM
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11. can we drug Novak with truth serum? |
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The source will be known someday...I just hope we find out sooner rather than later.
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Fri Oct-28-05 06:27 PM
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16. It's obviously Rove but ... |
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the only thing he seems to have on Rove is that he revealed the info to a reporter.
He explained that it is very difficult to get a conviction on this charge.
It sounds like he will tie up a few loose ends but if some new info doesn't emerge, he won't charge Rove and this chapter if finished.
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Fri Oct-28-05 06:38 PM
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17. And that reporter of course is Novak. |
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Based on the dates and times in the indictment and the fact that they did not reveal the identity of Official A, tells me that this is not over by a long shot.
Five indictments is a lot. This was just not one simple indictment based on a conversation that was forgotten. And this whole mess is no laughing matter.
Since a CIA operative was exposed, what does that do to the national security of our country? Why would our allies trust use with secrete information on terrorism or issues that involve our national security and their security?
This has made the US weaker! We are a super power and some of that power has now been lost because our allies can no longer trust us.
Those responsible should be brought to justice, and I don't care if takes twenty friggin years. If it does take twenty years it will probably only cost 1% of what President Bush has wasted on Iraq.
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Fri Oct-28-05 06:42 PM
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18. Rawstory: Major papers and AP will report Official A is Rove |
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I know it's Rawstory, but they have good sources at major papers.
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Fri Oct-28-05 06:46 PM
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19. I kind of like Raw Story, I just use a little caution.... |
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Actually the identity of Official A is anyone guess. The news media, no matter who they are, knows no more than we do.
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Fri Oct-28-05 07:15 PM
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22. ap just reported it's rove |
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<snip> Prosecutors identified Rove in the Libby indictment only as "Official A," recounting a conversation he had with Libby about Plame and Wilson in the days just before the CIA operative's identity was revealed. The mention could make Rove a witness at any Libby trial. <snip>
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Fri Oct-28-05 07:14 PM
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Needn't refer to an individual, it can be a term to designate a group. I think it goes to Bolton and the office of the INR. Also, official A is supposedly used when the designee is the target or subject of an investigation.
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Fri Oct-28-05 07:16 PM
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23. A = Rover per AP - now known fact |
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