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Nightwing Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 06:46 AM
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Libby May Rely on Faulty-Memory Defense
Sure looks like Libby intends to pull a Reagan (I dont recall). If he does, I'm betting Fitz nails him to the wall!! And it sure looks like turd blossom isnt out of the woods just yet.

Go get em Fitz!!
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Presidential Adviser Rove Awaits Decision on Status in CIA Leak Prosecution

I. Lewis Libby and Karl Rove, one facing indictment, the other hoping to avoid one, are pursuing a similar strategy to prove their innocence in the CIA leak case: showing they are guilty of memory lapses, not lies.

Libby, indicted Friday on five counts of lying and obstructing justice, contends that any misleading information he provided to the grand jury or federal investigators was the result of a hectic schedule and foggy recollections, according to people familiar with his thinking.

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Rove, who sources said narrowly escaped indictment through last-minute negotiations, is working privately to convince Special Counsel Patrick J. Fitzgerald that he did not lie to a grand jury about his role in the disclosure of CIA operative Valerie Plame's identity. With Fitzgerald threatening to indict Rove, the White House deputy chief of staff provided him with new information last week that prompted Fitzgerald to rethink charging him with making false statements, according to two people close to the case.

A source close to Rove said President Bush's closest adviser stands ready to provide the prosecutor with anything else he needs in the days ahead, and remains optimistic an indictment is not forthcoming. Rove expects a decision soon.

Fitzgerald "understands what is at stake here," said a source close to Rove. "We are going to find out if we are going to get good or bad news."

Link: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/29/AR2005102901220.html?nav=hcmodule
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 06:58 AM
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1. Well, I'll say if
He has a faulty memory, then he is not a dedicated public servant.
Without an agenda
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 07:06 AM
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2. How does somebody with a memory like a sieve
get a top White House job, unless he's another unqualified crony like Brownie and Miers (snicker)?
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 07:13 AM
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3. Considering the descriptions given of LIbby -
bright, meticulous, attention to detail, thorough, hard working, yada, yada, yada, I think this will be a hard sell. To forget once . . . maybe. But 6 times?
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 07:59 AM
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4. Free trip to tortureville for any Rethug who says "I can't recall" or
uses any such bullshit excuse to evade the questions. Answers such as "I can't remember" or "I have no recollection" are not acceptable either.
Send them to Gitmo or Abu Ghraib until they "remember" this administration approves of torture.

Think about it, what American citizen charged with a crime could get away with such obvious lying?
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mphsblue89 Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 08:35 AM
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6. Faulty Memory Defense
Number of times that Clinton figures who testified in court or before Congress said that they didn't remember, didn't know, or something similar.

Bill Kennedy 116
Harold Ickes 148
Ricki Seidman 160
Bruce Lindsey 161
Bill Burton 191
Mark Gearan 221
Mack McLarty 233
Neil Egglseston 250
Hillary Clinton 250
John Podesta 264
Jennifer O'Connor 343
Dwight Holton 348
Patsy Thomasson 420
Jeff Eller 697

In the portions of President Clinton's Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times. This is a list of his answers and how many times he gave each one.

I don't remember - 71
I don't know - 62
I'm not sure - 17
I have no idea - 10
I don't believe so - 9
I don't recall - 8
I don't think so - 8
I don't have any specific recollection - 6
I have no recollection - 4
Not to my knowledge - 4
I just don't remember - 4
I don't believe - 4
I have no specific recollection - 3
I might have - 3
I don't have any recollection of that - 2 I don't have a specific memory - 2
I don't have any memory of that - 2
I just can't say - 2
I have no direct knowledge of that - 2
I don't have any idea - 2
Not that I recall - 2
I don't believe I did - 2
I can't remember - 2
I can't say - 2
I do not remember doing so - 2
Not that I remember - 2
I'm not aware - 1
I honestly don't know - 1
I don't believe that I did - 1
I'm fairly sure - 1
I have no other recollection - 1
I'm not positive - 1
I certainly don't think so - 1
I don't really remember - 1
I would have no way of remembering that - 1
That's what I believe happened - 1
To my knowledge, no - 1
To the best of my knowledge - 1
To the best of my memory - 1
I honestly don't recall - 1
I honestly don't remember - 1
That's all I know - 1
I don't have an independent recollection of that - 1
I don't actually have an independent memory of that - 1
As far as I know - 1
I don't believe I ever did that - 1
That's all I know about that - 1
I'm just not sure - 1
Nothing that I remember - 1
I simply don't know - 1
I would have no idea - 1
I don't know anything about that - 1
I don't have any direct knowledge of that - 1
I just don't know - 1
I really don't know - 1
I can't deny that, I just -- I have no memory of that at all - 1
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 08:49 AM
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8. Welcome to DU 1st post huh? nm
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:31 AM
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11. Hi mphsblue89!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 08:02 AM
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5. Re: Faulty-Memory Defense
Maybe that would work for us on April 15th...
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 08:41 AM
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7. Worked well for Martha Stewart
She went to jail.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 09:19 AM
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10. And now Tommy and Billy might get nailed too.
"but your honor, I forgot all about thou shalt no steal, just for a second." Famous last words one can only hope.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-05 08:50 AM
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9. Way too many angry Americans for that rubbish to fly...
pitchforks would soon follow.
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